Charlie Hatfield

What parts are you needing, that is a 1610 series driveline. 60 year old part numbers will never cross. Most of the time driveline parts are measured to look up.

Can't beat them for help and friendly service for your "B" model needs.

The Super Pumper resides in Jimmy Dobson's fire museum in Bay City Michigan. I think they have one of the super tankers (or satelite trucks) also. it is called the Antique Toy and Fire Museum.

I agree with you 100%, I am not sure of what i will do yet. I am glad you reminded me about Magnet paints. I have some literature from them and will look at that again. I won't do Rustoleum on the body, just parts not seen all the time. Here are some more pictures of the old water tank I took off and hand made rear fenders that I am not going to use. The other picture is a side of hose bed that has some lettering under neath a coat of paint.

The Rustoleum I'm refering to is the "Professional" series. It seems to be better than the regular type. Several friends of mine have used it on trucks and have had good results using it. One guy painted over the old lacquer paint to preserve the metal underneath because he didn't want to do a total repaint. Another guy used it to repaint the frame on his Ahrens Fox NS4. It is just a whole lot cheaper than paying $200 or $400 a gallon for paint.

There were only 700 BB models built in 4 years. It was the first shaft drive Mack and was designed to be a bus or delivery truck. Also it was lower to the ground than regular trucks. It has a 4 cylinder engine and 4 speed transmission. Not sure of the rear end ratio, but does a blazing 30 mph!

In the antique fire truck hobby, they are revered and you are a lucky person if you own one or acquire one.

The paint color and system to use is the $64 question. Since I am not a painter i am not sure what to use. Kirker has a pretty good paint system (they were used used by Mack for a number of years) they carry Mack red and is reasonably priced. They are factory packed and can be bought in one step and 2 step style of paint. They have synthetic enamel, urethane enamel, acrylic enamel, and base coat-clear coat. I have painted the wheels with Regal red Rustoleum and looks pretty good. I will probably powdercoat some items but may not. I don't want to get too many shades of red. I also painted one fender with regal red and didn't look too bad, but that was just to see what it looked like.

The truck came off the assembly line as a cab and chassis in the fall of 1929. It was sold to the city of Webster NY on Dec 29th,1929. Who or how it was changed to fire truck is unknown. It has a Prospect pump, hose bed and seat. The hose bed was 6 foot and extended 2 feet to 8. The seat was widened to fit the truck. Since there are no records from Prospect Fire Apparatus in Ohio, what little information I, have gathered is that it was not built at Prospects factory, but serial tag on the pump matches the timeline of fire trucks built at factory of the same period. So I can only assume that it was changed over from truck to fire apparatus by someone local. They kept it till 1937 and was sold. It was bought by Davenport NY fire dept in 1947 from a junkyard in New Jersey and used it until in the 1970's I bought it in 2009 at a fire swap meet in Jackson, MI. The individual had bought it at a auction in Michigan in 2005 from a collector who sold his collection.

Does anyone know the colors or have a color chart of AB or BB series (the real B series) Mack's? I cannot seem to find anything on it. I am really looking for the original green on my Mack BB.

The 3rd picture was the backside (painted green) Does anyone know the color of green used in that era, it looks to be a bluish green but I cannot find any color chart or names of the colors used in early Mack's. I have the build record from Mack on the truck, but no mention of colors were listed.

I decided to start a restoration on my 29 Mack BB. I took the hood off, dismantled it into 4 separate pieces, brought it to work to clean and sandblast them. It was originally green from the factory, but was painted red when it was changed to an open cab fire truck. So it was green on the inside and 2 different colors of red on the outside. I put the parts in a huge parts washer that we use for cleaning transmission and differential gears. I run it for 3 30 minute cycles and took them out. All the paint was removed from them, but imagine my surprise when the original stamp of the steel manufacture was still on the sheet metal after 85 years.

Cal Little phone number is 717-566-8973 His e-mail is pinehillts@comcast.net

Couldn't make this one, but thinking about the summer meet for sure. Will try to have the 29 Mack BB there. (gotta find my paint brushes) I haven't had it out since 2009 to Macungie.

If you have a good old one, you can always have some cast in brass. a lot of work but still worth it!

Those brackets come up on ebay quite often, very similar but may be different. Old fire truck lights are similar also.

The switch basically turns on the fuel gauge. why its like that was always a mystery to me, as every "L" had one. If your fuel tank is at the back of the vehicle, an electric pump is located on the left inner frame rail near the diff. If the tank is behind the cab, then it will be located on the frame near it.

Beautiful truck, nothing beats an "L" fire truck

He could have at least cleaned the tires and made it look presentable. with that price he is looking for retirement money. I agree with everyone else, way over priced!

The spring is fairly common universal unit. A lot of different manufactures use just about the same type.

That is a super neat truck, at least worth a million smiles from working on it and pride in accompolishment of restoring a treasured truck. The older they are, the better they are in terms of restoration ease!

There was a special on Pierce fire truck manufactuer on HC and the were showing the color chip selection of red, there was over 150 shades! How could you pick from that?

Thats a darn shame, it has a set of boot dryer racks that several guys on here would love to have, plus a lot of other goodies that are always needed. He usually always have some red trucks there arantradingltd.com 1-888-848-2726

Juice brakes always fade away from non use. kits are usually all you need to get them going again. And a lot of elbow grease!

The original color for mack fire trucks in that era was #3469 medium red. That was discontinued and changed to #400 red, which is pretty common. One paint chart in the mid 80's showed 5 different reds used. Mack used to use Kirker Paint years ago and is reasonably priced from paint suppliers and they have a good website. Shades of red can drive you nuts!