Unsticking a stuck axle lol

[70mackMB]

Get-R-Done    .....Hippy

[mowerman]

lol that looks very dangerous 

[Geoff Weeks]

Looks like a Eaton axle from the end of it. Can't see if it has the taper locks or not, but the only other reason would be a twisted spline, and they tend to twist before the mating spline not inside it.  Anyway you look at it, it is the wrong way to solve the problem.

[mrsmackpaul]

Well I doubt it's stuck, putting all that force and not moving suggests something still isn't removed inside the diff center 

Not knowing what brand it is, could be a not so common brand, have come across axles with a big circlip on the spider gear end that has me puzzled for a while 

Paul

 

[mowerman]

Well,one of  the last car rear ends  i worked on had that clip it was 50 years ago. I really don’t remember much about it. I just know I had to take it out of there and I don’t remember how I did it …to get the axle out. And I for sure can’t remember what kind of car it was.

[Geoff Weeks]

Pull the pin for the spider gear, and push in on the axle, drop the C clip out and the axle will slide out of the housing.

[mowerman]

aaaaaaaaa thats right,,,,thanks for that

[Mark T]

I watched that several times (lol) still can't figure out what's going on there. Almost looks like a piece of plate with the hole welded onto the axle ???  Wonder if it's AI

[mowerman]

these days nobody knows 

[Mark T]

Seriously. That looks like something in the 20 to 23 thousand pound range of axle. What the heck could be so stuck in it ?  It actually sounds about right when it hits the ground too. 

[Geoff Weeks]

24 minutes ago, Mark T said:

Seriously. That looks like something in the 20 to 23 thousand pound range of axle. What the heck could be so stuck in it ?  It actually sounds about right when it hits the ground too. 

My guess would be taper locks. If the last person inside put the axle in a RTV gooped everywhere, when tighten down it oozes  up around the taper locks and hold them in place making it big job to get them and therefore the axle out. Had to deal with it myself, and why I have premade axle gaskets still in stock on the shop wall years after I retired.

[Joey Mack]

I just watched it again... so the axle was out an inch, and they took the time to weld a plate with a hole in it to rip the axle out.   Then as they pull, the truck is thrashing back and forth.... and the chain breaks.  At what point do you stop and rethink the approach..  I call this B.S.    its a floating axle....

[mowerman]

I think Geoff is right it probably had taper locks I thought mine had them but it did not I didn’t see the chain brake. I thought that was the axle flying out of there.

[Joey Mack]

Where are the tapered locks.. do you mean the cones in the axle flange holes? 

[mowerman]

OK. I just watched it again. I see what you mean. I did not notice the chain. Breaking the first time I watched it.

[mowerman]

I think that’s what he’s talking about

[Geoff Weeks]

1 minute ago, Joey Mack said:

Where are the tapered locks.. do you mean the cones in the axle flange holes? 

yes

[Mark T]

I've had them put up a fight over the wedges, and they can be a challenge. So much so I never use them twice anymore. New ones with a little Neversieze and a new gasket. Nothing like coming in at the end of a day, finding a leaky wheel seal....then spending an extra half hour or so getting the axle out.  New hardware is cheap.  I guess maybe those ag tires might be sorta soft and bounce around easy 

[mowerman]

I heard all you have to do is smack the axle with a big hammer and those things will pop out, but I’ve watched mechanics in our shop pull them apart and that doesn’t work. They have to try to pull those cone thingies out with small needle nose.

[Mark T]

Guys use'm over and over and they get mashed into the axle. Then you have to resort to pliers, Visegrips or a small chisel to try and get them off. Pita

[Geoff Weeks]

There is a special pliers made for them. Clean, and a gasket and the cone come out easy. Yes, the common way is to remove the nuts or at least loosen to the last thread, then smack the flange in the center, it would pop the cones out.

[Joey Mack]

I have a pair of those fancy-ish pliers. Had them for 20+ years, even ground them back into shape with a file.  And cut a nothc in them to fit better..  the video is B.S.   🍻

[Geoff Weeks]

I don't, but for the last few decades only worked on my own stuff, and I used gaskets, not RTV, so they just popped right out.

[The Rubber Duck 006]

4 hours ago, Mark T said:

I've had them put up a fight over the wedges, and they can be a challenge. So much so I never use them twice anymore. New ones with a little Neversieze and a new gasket. Nothing like coming in at the end of a day, finding a leaky wheel seal....then spending an extra half hour or so getting the axle out.  New hardware is cheap.  I guess maybe those ag tires might be sorta soft and bounce around easy 

Yeah Those ag Tires usually don't have alot of Air in them and are super soft 

[topo]

This reminds me of working on a Drilling rig, trying to pull the third member, it would just not move at all ended up backing a rig up truck up to the front of the rig hooked the one inch cable to the yoke and slowly winched the cable got real tight and the third member shot out the axle housing had collapsed pinching the third member in the housing.