B Model Camper

[h67st]

In WV, asking $75k. It has a 3406 in it, that sounds like a tight fit for a B model.

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[mowerman]

Thanks for that. Yes, I have only seen one 3406.In a 72 R model that was around 40 years ago

[BOBWhite]

Never knew a B model could fit a 3406(B Im guessing).  Lots of 3406s around here still, great motors. 

[terry]

  On 8/20/2024 at 4:16 AM, BOBWhite said:

Never knew a B model could fit a 3406(B Im guessing).  Lots of 3406s around here still, great motors. 

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That’s a B70 something, so a longer hood.  Terry

[PMC]

  On 8/19/2024 at 9:45 PM, mowerman said:

Thanks for that. Yes, I have only seen one 3406.In a 72 R model that was around 40 years ago

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R754 was a factory 3406.

1978-1985 according to other BMT sources...

[BOBWhite]

  On 8/20/2024 at 8:34 AM, terry said:

That’s a B70 something, so a longer hood.  Terry

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Was the 1693 Cat ever an option in the B series? I've heard of a few early R models that got em. 

[terry]

  On 8/20/2024 at 2:12 PM, BOBWhite said:

Was the 1693 Cat ever an option in the B series? I've heard of a few early R models that got em. 

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Don’t know for sure, old Mike harbison would have been able to answer that, lost a lot of Mack info when he passed.  Terry

[h67st]

  On 8/20/2024 at 4:16 AM, BOBWhite said:

Never knew a B model could fit a 3406(B Im guessing).  Lots of 3406s around here still, great motors. 

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I worked at Cat in the 80s and 90s, guys who had the old 3406 motors loved them. The later models and E models had a lot of trouble with liner seals and leaking head gaskets so they weren't so well liked.

[67RModel]

I don't know when the 1693 Cat was released, however I have known of one DM800 with a factory 1693. I don't remember the year of the truck but I think it was around 1970. The DM and R models where released in 1965-1966 respectively I think. So the las B model would have been around 1966. Were 1693s even available then?

[BOBWhite]

  On 8/21/2024 at 3:12 PM, 67RModel said:

I don't know when the 1693 Cat was released, however I have known of one DM800 with a factory 1693. I don't remember the year of the truck but I think it was around 1970. The DM and R models where released in 1965-1966 respectively I think. So the las B model would have been around 1966. Were 1693s even available then?

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The 1693 was originally released as a D343 in bulldozers and such in 1960, the truck version wasn't released until the mid-60s. After doing some more reading I doubt a 1693 ever made it into a B series from factory but It would be cool rig if one did. 

[davehummell]

The 343 was used in the 988 loader, 983 track loader, 16 grader, 657 pan, first 35 ton end dump I can't remember the number I worked on all of them at one time or another was a cat mechanic for Cleveland Brothers back in the early 70's work on a lot of 1693's and 3406's and the rest of the on road engines. I liked to work on the 1693 it was my favorite engine the v-8 double overhead cam engine wasn't very good but they did better with the 3408

[davehummell]

Pagnotti coal company had an old Mack with a 1693 with two or three trans. they used it to haul shovel buckets and other heavy loads was nothing to look at, but it did the job it was a bigger model than a b-61. Kominsky coal company had Auto car single axles and Serge would haul anything that would fit on the goose neck trailer many times he would run out of power and have to get a push up the hill. 

[mechohaulic]

   sure would be great to see a picture of the old Mack with a1693 in it ;bet I'm not the only BMT member thinking that way . especially if it's "nothing to look at ". makes it more interesting. another bit of info which would make a great book. A car over loaded and needing a push. the way things were done many years back ;none of which required a computer. the good ole fun days!!!

[davehummell]

I think that Mack was scrapped years ago I was at the sale they had and there was an equipment scrap yard and everything disappeared soon after. I loaded Cat equipment many times on the two Acars saw them on a weekly basis as I remember had really big rears small Cummins engines I can't remember the trans they had. Jack Gillan had a nice Acar with a 335 Cummins I loaded a d-9 ublade and four barrel ripper on the goose neck trailer and the driver got out on 81 and blew four trailer tires it was quite the talk for days. Coal was king back in the 60's and trough the 70's around my location. My good friend owned Finch machine in West Pittston it was set up to do work for the mines there was a 10-foot x 30-foot lathe and the biggest milling machine I probably will ever see. I was doing some work on a 992 up in the stripping's and if I remember it had a 12 yard bucket and I was cycling the loader by scooping coal at todays prices for a ton of coal I can't believe what that bucket of coal is worth.

[67RModel]

  On 8/22/2024 at 12:20 PM, davehummell said:

I was doing some work on a 992 up in the stripping's and if I remember it had a 12 yard bucket and I was cycling the loader by scooping coal at todays prices for a ton of coal I can't believe what that bucket of coal is worth.

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I still burn anthracite in a hand fed stove. Nothing like it in the word. The best solid fuel heat source period. I'm surrounded by bituminous coal that is really pretty cheap, however you might as well just burn wood and save yourself some hassle. Anthracite by me has crept up to around $400/ton the past few years. I think out there picked up directly at the breakers is still around $350/ton. In todays money every heaped bucket in that 992 is probably $5000+

[mechohaulic]

  On 8/22/2024 at 12:20 PM, davehummell said:

I think that Mack was scrapped years ago I was at the sale they had and there was an equipment scrap yard and everything disappeared soon after. I loaded Cat equipment many times on the two Acars saw them on a weekly basis as I remember had really big rears small Cummins engines I can't remember the trans they had. Jack Gillan had a nice Acar with a 335 Cummins I loaded a d-9 ublade and four barrel ripper on the goose neck trailer and the driver got out on 81 and blew four trailer tires it was quite the talk for days. Coal was king back in the 60's and trough the 70's around my location. My good friend owned Finch machine in West Pittston it was set up to do work for the mines there was a 10-foot x 30-foot lathe and the biggest milling machine I probably will ever see. I was doing some work on a 992 up in the stripping's and if I remember it had a 12 yard bucket and I was cycling the loader by scooping coal at todays prices for a ton of coal I can't believe what that bucket of coal is worth.

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another case of so much history gone for ever just to make a couple bucks for scrap steel. very few gave thoughts of taking pictures to preserve  what is now the past.  the picture of the goose neck loaded with the  u blade had to be a sight in it's self. LOL

[mowerman]

i think power companys have taken over,,,,,,we have propane heater and pellet stove,,,,me and the old lady both agree pellet  stove seems to throw off better heat and its cheaper to run,my dogs seem to like it better as well,,like wow man,lol bob