96mackch Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Is a mack super 10 and a super 10 the same? If not what's difference.. Getting ready to pull the trans. 96 ch614 e7.. anything big that's different than a regular cummins and trans in a kenworth/pete/freightliner that I've done before? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeH Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Note the position of throwout bearing and clutch release fork before you disassemble, their setup may be different than you're used to? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) Just curious, Is it a Mack tranny? I dont recall super 10 in the Mack tranny's.. However Eaton has a super 10 top 2.. I have also never seen a CH-614.. Does it have 3 Drive axels? I would love to see pictures of it.. Welcome aboard... Jojo Edited July 8, 2023 by Joey Mack More content needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 I haven’t even heard of one in a long time drove one once kenworth didn’t like it kinda hard to explain shifting off from a traffic light up hill it wouldn’t allow you to go to 1st high … RPMs would shut down too early…… not sure if anyone understood that!!!!!!!!! Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 He probably has just got the MacK version duplex with a switch lol bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 I kinda understand, Bob.. I was working at Maine Mack in Portland M.E., when Hanaford bros. grocery bought 35 CH's. All were Eaton Super 10 Top 2 tranny's.. I drove all of them. Basically, you can split each gear or skip shift (up-or-down), and 9th &10th were overdrive. I wouldnt mind spending a couple hours driving one today, to see if I can still shift it Jojo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Yes, it was a good idea. Other than that low rpm bullshit if they would’ve let you wind it out in first, that would’ve solved the problem..instead of shutting down around 1600 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.E.D Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 My pops had 2 chs with super 10, they were tandem dump trucks.shift forks would brake like clockwork every year.It was with different drivers too..we ended up just swapping them to 9 speeds.... problem solved 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 They were definitely slick when working properly of course the nine speed is still a lot easier I had never heard that about the forks… Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.E.D Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Could've been that our drivers were banging the gears in ,since the super 10 were kinda slow to rpm drop in the next gear... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Super Ten Fullers were back in the beginning of automation and all that great stuff. Some engineers agreed there were fuel savings to be found being in direct and overdrive at the proper times. Technology wasn't so advanced at the time so basically (really basically) the ECM would shift the transmission between direct and overdrive (9th and 10th) as it was programed . Since processors and servos weren't that sophisticated (or affordable) at the time the Super Ten Top 2 made some sense on some level. They could also just be shifted by the driver if it wasn't set up to an ECM or in a truck without an ECM. By the time they marketed them and all though , they were basically obsolete because there were better mousetraps. (think Autoshift) . they also pitched it as "less shifting for the driver" Sorta like a Mack ten speed from the early '80s but the shift pattern was where it ended. Outside they looed like an old RTO 13 speed but with no range valve on the main case on it's left side. Remember when all these ideas.... low RPM high torque....less shifting.... reduced weight were all Mack ideas no one really valued at the time as they do now ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleclutchinweasel Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Drove a Super 10/Top 2 one time. That's been a while. Thoughts and comments on it withheld! Quote "Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rubber Duck 006 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 I drove a Volvo With a Eaton Super 10 lightning. Made for lite duty hauling. I actually loved the super 10 once I got the hang of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96mackch Posted July 23, 2023 Author Share Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) The auxillary box was the same from cummins to mack.. 96 mack ch614 was a road tractor with sleeper air back converted to dump truck e7 350 super 10 Edited July 23, 2023 by 96mackch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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