kscarbel2 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 International Trucks / July 9, 2020 What are you waiting for? It's never been easier to buy an International Truck! Take advantage of no payments for six months. Learn more at https://bit.ly/30RK36f. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
convoyduel Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 On the contrary, it has been easier. I can buy 2 to 5 year old Internationals all day long on Ritchie Brothers for $5k to $9k apiece. I’d say that’s easier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxidyne Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 True- I haven't seen prices that low on late model class 8 Internationals, but if it has the Navistar/MAN engine it tends to have the worst resale of any truck brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadwayR Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Maxidyne said: True- I haven't seen prices that low on late model class 8 Internationals, but if it has the Navistar/MAN engine it tends to have the worst resale of any truck brand. Which is odd because I have not heard much bad about the A26. Bad sentiment from the MaxxForce days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxidyne Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 I suspect so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 The MAN D26 (Navistar A26) is proven superb powerplant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storkmack Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Those Ritchie Bro’s prices are tempting, but no thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxidyne Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 2 hours ago, kscarbel2 said: The MAN D26 (Navistar A26) is proven superb powerplant. I agree, but the market seems to still associate them with the earlier engines emission system problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 8 hours ago, Maxidyne said: I agree, but the market seems to still associate them with the earlier engines emission system problems. I don't know about that. Today's market doesn't look back very far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Yup remember everybody is saddled with the same rubbish to add on to meet the emissions , Must be some other stigma! ? Maybe the VW People Are Evil !?🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxidyne Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, kscarbel2 said: I don't know about that. Today's market doesn't look back very far. I think the retail buyer still remembers all the problems with the Maxxforce engines, at the wholesale level they know everyone had emissions systems problems but they price it in anyways. But those trucks have clearly been tough to remarket- Why else would Navistar dump them in Vietnam? Edited July 11, 2020 by Maxidyne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxidyne Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 20 minutes ago, fjh said: Yup remember everybody is saddled with the same rubbish to add on to meet the emissions , Must be some other stigma! ? Maybe the VW People Are Evil !?🤪 Navistar tried to meet EPA 2010 standards without DEF, and it was a disaster. Most of the used truck buyers don't follow the markets and still think it's International, have never heard of Navistar or NAV, and know nothing of the Traxon/VW Group acquisition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 8 hours ago, Maxidyne said: Navistar tried to meet EPA 2010 standards without DEF, and it was a disaster. Most of the used truck buyers don't follow the markets and still think it's International, have never heard of Navistar or NAV, and know nothing of the Traxon/VW Group acquisition. Agreed that most American operators don't know of Traton. However, many know Navistar reintroduced Cummins power, making the EGR engines past history. Now, on road fleets are operating A26s with no more issues than the competition's engines have (e.g. Volvo, Paccar). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadwayR Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I remember back in '80-'81 is was awfully easy to buy an International. Walk in front of an IH dealer and the salesmen would grab you and lock you into some S series. Wouldn't let you out until you signed the sales contract. Wasn't that bad of a truck but still........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted July 12, 2020 Author Share Posted July 12, 2020 I was at first leery of the cheaper-for-IH-to-build S Series range, however they proved to be solid trucks worthy of respect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadwayR Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 We had a lot of them. Early gas engine mediums, severe service dumps with DT466's, and a few Cummins powered tandems with cranes on them. Tough, trouble free trucks, particularly with the non-electronic 466's. Best wipers of any truck I have ever driven, thanks to that flat windshield. Remember those short-nose S series tractors with the really wide cabs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayseed Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 18 hours ago, kscarbel2 said: I was at first leery of the cheaper-for-IH-to-build S Series range, however they proved to be solid trucks worthy of respect. They were a Great Truck. We had Heaps of them Down here. in All configurations right up until the late '90's (99 I think) 2 Quote "Be who you are and say what you feel...Because those that matter...don't mind...And those that mind....don't matter." - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Gotta agree with Hayseed, and as ,uch as it pains me to say it they rode better and were much more comfortable to drive than a R model And with big Cummins motors 350-400 they were just as good as any E6 Mack motor They also had those high torque Cummins with I think eith a Eaton or Spicer 6 speed to compete with a Maxidyne, I dont think they sold many though But for many years the S line and it's unidentical twin the T line were everywhere in Australia Paul 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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