kscarbel2 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Prime Mover Magazine / October 11, 2016 A joint announcement was by Iveco Australia parent company, CNH Industrial and US truck brand Navistar has confirmed that Iveco will now distribute International trucks into Australia. The announcement ends months of speculation as to the framework under which International would return to Australia, after initial plans were outlined by Navistar in 2015. The return of International to Australia and its tie-in with Iveco and its Dandenong facility in Melbourne, marks a homecoming to the location where thousands of International commercial vehicles were manufactured and or assembled since 1952. “Despite not having sold here for a number of years, ‘Inter’ is still entrenched in the Australian market and remembered fondly by fleet operators,” said Mark Belisle, Navistar Sr. VP Distribution & Export. “We look forward to the months ahead and bringing some exciting new International vehicles to market.” CNH Industrial Executive Managing Director – ANZ, Ray Osgood, added. “International had a long and successful history in Australia and dominated the commercial vehicle market for several decades – there remains a lot of passion for the brand here today, and it still has a lot of equity in this market,” he said. “CNH Industrial is extremely excited at the prospect of partnering with Navistar in reintroducing the iconic International Trucks to Australia. Our operational experience with Iveco and the obvious synergies and history between the two brands will provide notable efficiencies as the International range is introduced in the months ahead. “Furthermore, we see the arrangement to be mutually beneficial in that the International product range primarily consisting of conventional cabs, will compliment Iveco’s strengths in cab-over truck models.” According to both CNH and Navistar, operational aspects of the arrangement are still being finalised by both parties, which are still evaluating several models. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted October 11, 2016 Author Share Posted October 11, 2016 Done Deal: CNH Industrial Appointed Australian distributor of INTERNATIONAL Trucks Power Torque AU / October 11, 2016 A joint announcement was made today by CNH Industrial and Navistar Inc. executives confirming that Iveco Australia’s parent company, CNH Industrial, has been appointed sole distributor of International Trucks in the Australian market. Today’s announcement ends months of speculation as to the framework under which International would return to Australia, after initial plans were outlined by Navistar Inc. at the 2015 Brisbane Truck Show. Operational aspects of the arrangement are still being finalized by both parties who are evaluating several models, like the ProStar, in an effort to ensure that the International brand is strongly promoted and supported from the outset. The return of International to Australia and its tie-in with Iveco and its Dandenong facility in Melbourne, marks a homecoming to the location where thousands of International commercial vehicles were manufactured and or assembled since 1952. The DNA still runs deep today with the current Iveco ACCO range sharing its lineage with earlier ACCOs developed under International Harvester (http://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/36017-the-legendary-acco-–-designed-and-built-by-australians/). Navistar Sr. VP Distribution & Export, Mark Belisle, said the company had taken extensive due diligence in evaluating and pursuing the best course of action for the return of International Trucks to Australia. “Despite not having sold here for a number of years, International is still entrenched in the Australian market and remembered fondly by fleet operators, this enthusiasm for the marque was also highlighted at the 2015 Brisbane Truck Show with both the ProStar and LoneStar display trucks capturing show-goers’ imaginations,” Mr. Belisle said. “Of course the return of a brand to Australia that is so well regarded, deserved a detailed plan befitting of its standing here, and that meant establishing a partnership with a company that was well equipped to assist in properly relaunching in the local market”. “In CNH Industrial we’ve found a partner with the necessary credentials and industry experience to help Navistar meet its goals here. The close history between CNH Industrial’s Iveco brand and INTERNATIONAL is not lost on us either, it adds an element of emotion to the partnership”. “We look forward to the months ahead and bringing some exciting new INTERNATIONAL vehicles to market.” In commenting on the agreement, CNH Industrial Executive Managing Director – ANZ, Ray Osgood, said he was extremely pleased to have established a partnership with Navistar Inc. for the distribution rights. “International had a long and successful history in Australia and dominated the commercial vehicle market for several decades – there remains a lot of passion for the brand here today, and it still has a lot of equity in this market,” Mr. Osgood said. “CNH Industrial is extremely excited at the prospect of partnering with Navistar in reintroducing the iconic International Trucks to Australia. Our operational experience with Iveco and the obvious synergies and history between the two brands will provide notable efficiencies as the International range is introduced in the months ahead. “Furthermore, we see the arrangement to be mutually beneficial in that the International product range primarily consisting of conventional cabs, will compliment Iveco’s strengths in cab-over truck models.” International Trucks History – Australia 1912: International Harvester company of Australia Pty Ltd is formed 1949: Local International truck manufacturing and assembly begins in South Melbourne 1952: International manufacturing facility opened in Dandenong, Melbourne (now owned and operated by Iveco Trucks Australia) 1955: Mk1 4x4 GS army truck production began 1961: Anglesea proving ground established to help development of extended truck lines 1961: AACO production began 1965: New facilities added to Dandenong works – capacity is almost doubled 1972: ACCO A is released 1982: International Harvester experiences global financial concerns – Receiver Manager appointed in Australia 1985: International Harvester becomes International Trucks Australia Ltd 1992: Iveco acquires International Trucks Australia Ltd, including Dandenong manufacturing facility and ACCO model range 1997: 200,000th International / Iveco unit manufactured at Dandenong facility 2001: Company name officially changed to Iveco Trucks Australia Ltd 2004: Relaunch of International 9000 Series in Australia, assembled at Dandenong 2006: International 7600 introduced 2017: International Trucks to relaunch in Australia . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Seems kind of confusing to me. VW makes a significant investment in Navistar. Iveco is a significant VW competitor on the world stage-I think. Iveco makes what appears to be a "worthy" conventional that if I understand the world scene, is best suited for AUS (KSC-agree?) Having said that, why would you enable the fox to get into the hen house? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Welcome to the brave new world of car and truck building and marketing... The makers have become marketers and have no loyalty to any brand or country and their heritage. Navistar has now cut deals with Cat, GM, VW, and CNH/FIAT, and who knows who else... Pretty much typical, as GM in recent history bought Saab, badge engineered a Suburu into a Saab, as well as co-manufacturing and badge engineering Suzukis and Toyotas. BMW is doing similar deceit with their Mini, and has anybody noticed the resemblance between the tiniest Toyota and Mazda cars? Meanwhile, the Mopars are transitioning from being downmarket Mercedes to being FIAT clones, while the Voyager minivan has reappeared as a Lancia... Disgusting! I call it "the whoring of the brands" as a once honorable brand sleeps around with whatever the owner thinks will make a quick profit. So if you're looking for a long term relationship with a brand, the whole industry has gotten slutty and is sleeping around to the point where it's getting hard to identify the offspring. Ultimately the customer figures out that their overpriced BMW bike was made in India, their Lancia is an orphan mass market minivan, and their Alfa Romeo is just an overpriced FIAT that's selling out for half price in Dodge dealers. When the marketers have thoroughly trashed the brand, they'll just find another to wring all the heritage and value out of. Sort of makes the whole "One Ford" concept downright lovable... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 My apologies to GM, I forgot your long term relationship with geisha Isuzu... Did I miss any of your concubines? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyT Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Time to bore you with one of my anachronistic diatribes! The whore analogy is dead on,concubine is too polite,as it implies some level of professionalism! This applies to most of corporate America and elsewhere not just the the car and truck builders...oops I meant assemblers! Of course I am on the "soapbox" concerning " buy American" continuously,but how can you really tell! Saw a new Escalade with a Teamster sticker and a buy American sticker the other day. Obviously A retired teamster. But I'll bet if you took every offshored component off that Caddy it would be up on blocks and you could fill a packing case with what's left! I'm sure the average motorist who bought an American badged vehicle out of patriotism has no idea! They've been doing it for years,but it's getting worse! I was putting a set of struts on my daughter's Taurus a couple years ago and the wheels were made in Mexico! Gotta wonder how well the Golf switches Will hold up in a commercial application! Or for that matter the Fiat components off a 500 under the dash of a 250000 dollar Ferrari ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted October 11, 2016 Author Share Posted October 11, 2016 On 10/11/2016 at 9:50 PM, Red Horse said: Seems kind of confusing to me. VW makes a significant investment in Navistar. Iveco is a significant VW competitor on the world stage-I think. Iveco makes what appears to be a "worthy" conventional that if I understand the world scene, is best suited for AUS (KSC-agree?) Having said that, why would you enable the fox to get into the hen house? Nobody likes Iveco's Australian market conventional cab PowerStar more than me. It's an impressive truck in both form and function. But I look at the International line-up and PowerStar range as products for two different types of customers. I've yet to see one product range that appeals to everyone, which is why we have Ford, Chevy and Dodge to choose from for pickups. Sure, if we could buy a Ford pickup with the Chevy's Allison transmission and the Dodge's Cummins 6.7L, we'd only need that one pickup to perfectly meet everyone's needs............but that's another story. I think it's going to work out fine. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted October 12, 2016 Author Share Posted October 12, 2016 From left to right: Navistar AUSPAC Engineering Manager, Adrian Wright Navistar AUSPAC Regional Manager, Dicky Commandeur Navistar Inc Vice President - Global Export, Federico Palomo CNH Industrial Executive Managing Director - Australia and New Zealand, Ray Osgood Navistar Inc General Manager - Operations, John Staley Iveco Australia Managing Director, Michael Jonson . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted October 12, 2016 Author Share Posted October 12, 2016 The Iveco (former International Harvester) plant in Dandenong, Australia, and another efficient B-Train example. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted October 12, 2016 Author Share Posted October 12, 2016 International Trucks returns to Australia Power Torque Magazine / October 12, 2016 It will be business as usual for International Trucks as the brand returns to the Australian market, reprising the distribution agreement it held previously with IVECO Australia and its dealer network. A joint announcement made by CNH Industrial and Navistar Inc. executives confirmed that Iveco, a brand of CNH Industrial, has been appointed sole distributor of International Trucks in the Australian market. The return marks a homecoming to the Dandenong location where thousands of International commercial vehicles were manufactured and or assembled from 1952-2001. Navistar Sr. VP Distribution & Export, Mark Belisle, said the company had undertaken extensive due diligence in evaluating and pursuing the best course of action for the return of International Trucks to Australia. Mr. Belisle said. “In Iveco we’ve identified the necessary credentials and industry experience to help meet our goals. The close history between Iveco and International is not lost on us either; it adds an element of emotion to the agreement”, Mr. Belisle said. In commenting on the agreement, CNH Industrial Executive Managing Director for Australia and New Zealand, Ray Osgood, said he was extremely pleased to have established a partnership with Navistar Inc. for the distribution rights. “CNH Industrial is extremely excited at the prospect of partnering with Navistar in reintroducing the iconic International Trucks brand to Australia. Our operational experience with Iveco and the obvious synergies and history between the two brands will provide notable efficiencies as the International range is introduced in the months ahead,” said Mr .Osgood. . The timing of the introduction and on-sale date has yet to be announced, however, the addition of a new bonneted range of International vehicles for the IVECO dealership group, powered by Cummins ISXe5 engines, raises the question of whether the return of the International brand will herald the demise of the Iveco Powerstar range. In respect of the CAT Truck product range, which is also produced for the Australian market by Navistar, a spokesperson for the CAT product said that there was currently no intention to cease availability of the product range which is sold through Caterpillar dealerships. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted October 12, 2016 Author Share Posted October 12, 2016 On 10/11/2016 at 10:19 PM, TeamsterGrrrl said: Welcome to the brave new world of car and truck building and marketing... The makers have become marketers and have no loyalty to any brand or country and their heritage. Navistar has now cut deals with Cat, GM, VW, and CNH/FIAT, and who knows who else... Pretty much typical, as GM in recent history bought Saab, badge engineered a Suburu into a Saab, as well as co-manufacturing and badge engineering Suzukis and Toyotas. BMW is doing similar deceit with their Mini, and has anybody noticed the resemblance between the tiniest Toyota and Mazda cars? Meanwhile, the Mopars are transitioning from being downmarket Mercedes to being FIAT clones, while the Voyager minivan has reappeared as a Lancia... Disgusting! I call it "the whoring of the brands" as a once honorable brand sleeps around with whatever the owner thinks will make a quick profit. So if you're looking for a long term relationship with a brand, the whole industry has gotten slutty and is sleeping around to the point where it's getting hard to identify the offspring. Ultimately the customer figures out that their overpriced BMW bike was made in India, their Lancia is an orphan mass market minivan, and their Alfa Romeo is just an overpriced FIAT that's selling out for half price in Dodge dealers. When the marketers have thoroughly trashed the brand, they'll just find another to wring all the heritage and value out of. Sort of makes the whole "One Ford" concept downright lovable... One has to be flexible in order to participate in the Australian market. International has had a relationship with Iveco for almost 25 years in Australia, since 1992 when International Iveco Trucks Australia was formed. That history weighs in here. And remembering one of my favorite vintage trucks, the Dodge D5N, recall that Chrysler Australia produced the International cabs in Adelaide, and International Harvester Australia produced chassis at Dandenong (Victoria). Both brands shared those components to achieve a viable business scenario. Australia has always been like that out of necessity. http://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/31209-when-the-dodge-boys-sold-trucks-down-under/ For MY2016, Toyota is selling "one" car, actually under their Scion brand, the iA, which is a rebadged Mexican production Mazda2. The Mazda version is considerably better looking than the Scion, but it's not sold in the US market. For 2017, with the long-needed cancellation of the unsuccessful Scion brand, the Mazda2 in the US market will be badged as the Toyota Yaris, different from the global market Yaris which is based on the Toyota Vios. The upcoming Alfa Romeo Giulia is NOT a Fiat. In fact, it was an all-new purpose-designed platform. The exhilarating 4C isn't a Fiat either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadwayR Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Plenty to think about here. Maybe Clarke really isn't looking to sell out to VW, and is indeed pursuing partnerships and joint ventures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted October 12, 2016 Author Share Posted October 12, 2016 39 minutes ago, RoadwayR said: Plenty to think about here. Maybe Clarke really isn't looking to sell out to VW, and is indeed pursuing partnerships and joint ventures. That's what I've been saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 2 hours ago, kscarbel2 said: And remembering one of my favorite vintage trucks, the Dodge D5N, recall that Chrysler Australia produced the International cabs in Adelaide, and International Harvester Australia produced chassis at Dandenong (Victoria). Both brands shared those components to achieve a viable business scenario. Australia has always been like that out of necessity. A bit more useless information on the Dodge Inter marriage did you know a lot of the Chrysler 318 hemis in Australia were cast at IH Geelong and have the IH logo cast on the block Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 5 hours ago, kscarbel2 said: One has to be flexible in order to participate in the Australian market. International has had a relationship with Iveco for almost 25 years in Australia, since 1992 when International Iveco Trucks Australia was formed. That history weighs in here. And remembering one of my favorite vintage trucks, the Dodge D5N, recall that Chrysler Australia produced the International cabs in Adelaide, and International Harvester Australia produced chassis at Dandenong (Victoria). Both brands shared those components to achieve a viable business scenario. Australia has always been like that out of necessity. http://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/31209-when-the-dodge-boys-sold-trucks-down-under/ For MY2016, Toyota is selling "one" car, actually under their Scion brand, the iA, which is a rebadged Mazda 2. The Mazda version is considerably better looking than the Scion, but it's not sold in the US market. The upcoming Alfa Romeo Giulia is NOT a Fiat. In fact, it was an all-new purpose-designed platform. The exhilarating 4C isn't a Fiat either. Yup, small markets like Australia require some compromises, and thank god Alfa still has some unique products! But too much corporate "sleeping around" combined with executives playing musical chairs all over the industry is not good for competition and leads to poorer and less innovative products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadwayR Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 6 hours ago, mrsmackpaul said: A bit more useless information on the Dodge Inter marriage did you know a lot of the Chrysler 318 hemis in Australia were cast at IH Geelong and have the IH logo cast on the block Paul IH cast a lot of 318 blocks here in the states too. Chrysler had planned on buying MV446 engines from IH to replace the 440's after they went out of production in the summer of '78 for trucks and motorhomes. A few 446's made it into Dodge motorhome chassis after the supply of 440's was gone, but due to Chrysler's financial problems and gas prices the 446 never made it into Dodge trucks. Too bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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