That makes for a great story Mark. He has a head full of History that needs to be told. I need to post the picture of me and Ole Red Nose. It is one of the Commemortive Air Forces P 51 Mustangs. I got to fly it back in May of 2005 south of Atlanta, GA. Yes fly it. It had just the necessary stick, pedals, throttle with push to talk button, also had airspeed indicator and altimeter. It was for an instructor riding in the rear of the pilot. This plane was all original except did not have the bomb quadrant. I was strapped in my parachute first inwhich I sat on. These seats were dished out for the pilot to sit on his parachute the whole trip. Then I was strapped into the huge seatbelts. On startup it sounded like a big 6 cylinder engine with short pipes until we lined up on the numbers to take off and throttled up. Then the SOB came to life and you cannot hear yourself scream if you tried. But it sure has the most powerful sound with that 12 cylinder Rolls/Royce about 10 feet out front. When that tail lifts up off the runway you better be in control cause ain't no turnin back. We did 320 mph in a high speed dive just below the trees. G/f is tellin me to go home cause I got to work tomorrow. I'll see if I can take a picture of a picture and post it. mike