Terry T

This may have been discussed here before but I missed it. I have been fascinated with the Super Pumper System since I learned of it many years ago. I even have an "FDNY Super Pumper System" T-shirt & the Code 3 Collectibles models. This web page is the most informative that I have found about the system. http://www.fireengines.net/reviews/sp/history.htm

Every time this question comes up here or at JOT there are so many opinions but the plain & simple answer is (at least to me) :The seller has a price in mind & the buyer has a price in mind & someplace in between is the value. There is no KBB o r NADA value on these things. You have to decide how bad you want it & the seller has to decide how bad he wants to part with it.

MH in the video...

Mike, Problem resolved!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxdA3r8KHJ0 At Larry: While it is on it's side like that, it is much easier to cage brakes & pull the driveshaft. This is the way I have always done it. But I also look at my surroundings, check to see if it will roll or not when it hits its wheels and as John said, have blocks ready or some other form of catch other than the recovering vehicle. When a big truck crashes in the U.S. there is a lot of people who do a lot of investigation at the scene and they like to take their time but as soon as they are done, they expect the tow company(s) to jump right in and have the scene cleaned up in an hour! We have always been fortunate that the officers & investigators that we work with, also work with us. They will start with brakes so we can cage them right away, then they will continue the vehicle inspection so we can start rigging then they will go to the driver & paperwork then as soon as they give the green light we can get busy.

I won't have much free time tomorrow so I'm posting a day early... Not my proudest moment, actually one of my worse. I was southbound on SR 59 in the west suburb's of Chicago. I was running a very short round that week because I needed to be home to see my girlfriend at the time graduate from college. So anyway on Tuesday morning I had delivered on the north side and it looked like I might make my next drop south west of Chicago before the customer went home that afternoon. I was traveling in a line of traffic & was following an empty bulk hauler. The area we were in was two lane and a vehicle up ahead slowed to make a left turn, the truck & line of traffic, in front of me drifted right into a right turn lane to go around the vehicle turning left so I did the same. Suddenly the bulk hauler slowed, no brake lights (he was running empty and had a jake which really slowed him down) I tried to slow as well as his brake lights finally came on and he whipped his truck back to the left. I was closing too fast so I stayed in in the right turn lane but he didn't get completely back into the left lane before he came to a complete stop. I couldn't get stopped and clipped him, my left front to his right rear. It turns out at the end of the right turn lane, directly at the point the vehicle had been setting to make the left turn there was a concrete island that forced vehicles to turn right into a church parking lot. The entire line of traffic in front of the bulk hauler had moved over to go around the vehicle turning left then they all braked and whipped back into the lane & had to stop behind the vehicle turning left. The cop who investigated the accident talked to the other driver & asked him if I deserved a ticket for anything that I had done and he told the cop that he didn't believe that I was following too close, speeding or doing anything improper. He felt that traffic just began to stack up very quickly and it was the actions of persons in front of both of us that lead to me hitting him. Of course I was at fault but I didn't get any tickets. I replayed that morning in my head 100's of times trying to decide if I could have done anything different and the only thing that I think I could have done is to have began braking when I seen the line of traffic move right to pass the left turning vehicle instead of trying to maintain my speed. The thing that has always bothered me was how quick that truck slowed down with just the jake brake on because his brake lights did work but that jake was very tight.

When I was delivering doors, I did so off of a 48' dry van. I delivered to 3 schools up above Hickory NC someplace that were being renovated. The only way in & out had deep cut switch-backs that when I got to the 2nd school, I had green grass stains on the top 2 feet of my trailer on the right side....

Mike, To be honest I am a bit perplexed by this comment. Do you think that truck drivers should "pre-run" their routes in a passenger vehicle 1st? I'm just asking, not trying to start anything. The 2nd time I went OTR I hauled hardwood doors out of WI into the south east each week. multiple drops in multiple states mostly to construction sites. Every week was something very different usually 5-8 drops in states like KY, TN, AL or VA, NC & SC or GA & FL. Each Monday when I hooked to my load I spent the remainder of the afternoon calling & making my delivery appointments then routing myself from point to point & writing out my directions. I'm not sure how you can expect someone from Indiana to be "acquainted" with every road in KY, TN, AL, GA, VA, WV, NC, SC & FL. Truck driving is (like almost any profession) a learn as you go career. If you have stopped learning then you need a new career. If you cannot learn, then you just need a job, not a career. One time I dropped in Chattanooga, TN on Tuesday & next drop was Wed a.m. in Greenville, SC. I had time so I thought instead of going up to Knoxville or down to Atlanta I'd just take 64 & 74 through the National Forest. I'm glad I had plenty of time! It was beautiful but no place for a truck. The highway crew that I went by that was clearing the rock slide sure did look at me like I had two heads when I went passed them.... So again, not picking a fight & not picking on you, I'm just curious about your comment.

I often mention Parrish Leasing & Brothers Express. Although I haven't been with the companies since 1992 I still often use "we" when I talk about them. My dad & late father-in-law were very close to Don & Stan Parrish & their father Don Sr. My dad's often did side jobs & driving for the Parrish's & eventually my dad went to work for them then he, Don & Stan founded Brothers Express together. The Brothers in Brothers Express was derived from the fact that Dad, Don & Stan were brother Mason's & were every bit as close as brothers for so long. Even today, more than 20 years later, when I walk into the shop or office at Parrish Leasing it is like going back home so for that reason I have always felt the two companies are my family companies. Almost from it's inception with Don Parrish Senior Parrish Truck Rental, later Parrish Leasing has been a Mack fleet. Although it has never been 100% Mack. They started out with Mack B's, R's & IHC Fleetstars & Loadstars. The first "fleet" of trucks consisted of 11 4070 & 4070B's lease to (of all companies) International Harvester. In these early days they purchased used equipment up until the 11 Transtars as most small companies do. As they landed more accounts they were able to begin buying new trucks but also continued to buy used when the right deals made themselves available. Because Mack never built a suitable class 6 truck, Parrish had a lot of IHC Fleetstars & later S Series straight trucks. There were some MIdliners, but they always felt better with the IHC's. From the late '80's on Mack's have been at least 95% of the new purchase trucks. Exceptions being in 2004 with the engine fiasco's Parrish actually returned 50 new trucks. Volvo/Mack tried to make it right by providing new Volvo's. That didn't fly. They did not care for the Volvo's and once Mack got their sh*t back together Parrish was back to buying Mack's. I don't have a lot of fleet pic's but here is what I have...

This is a collection of my "kids" First is Henry & Elvis. Both of whom we lost several years ago. Niles who went with Kim when she moved out in 2011. Sheldon, who was my rescue & also went with Kim in 2011. Lucy who also went with Kim in 2011 & we lost in 2012. Elsie who we lost in 2011. Skip who we lost in 2010.

The best thing about this forum, everyone has their own opinion of things. I completely dislike that shifter knob. That was one of my favorite things about all of our 5 speed R Models. The straight stick & knob. It was easy to work around when you need to get stuff in & out of the cab & it was far enough out of the way that you never had to worry about it banging your arm when you were on rough roads and the stick & cab were shaking in opposite directions.

Driver went around the crossing gates at the RR crossing with a short hopper bottom and still managed to somehow drive off the shoulder and as he tried to pull it back onto the road he flipped it...

I can toss in a couple of Sheriff Department commission's that got "Tore Up" The marked unit was a reserve deputy (and son of the recently retired Sheriff) responding to a domestic dispute, He over shot a "T" intersection & crashed into a wooded area. When he hadn't made the scene & could not be reached an ISP Trooper went looking for him & found him. He lived but brain injuries have left him partially disabled. The unmarked unit was in a pursuit that went really wrong. 1st portion of the pursuit ended in a pasture when the suspect fled his car on foot in the dark as the deputy chased him he doubled back and got to the commission and took off in it. Fences, cattle gates, trees, utility poles, other police cars and a few ditches later & there was not one straight panel on the car.

A friend of mine worked that ISP crash (WAFFCO Towing & Recovery). Two Troops, rookie & trainer. Both lived, very lucky. They were in the car, in the median running radar when the Pete ran off the road & hit them.

I believe they are a regional thing mostly along the east coast area much like Power Call Sirens. We have began seeing the Roto Ray Lights here in the midwest a little bit. Like maybe 1 in 15 departments and only on 1 of that departments truck.

Driver pulled in & thought that he could swing around & back into one of the two indoor loading docks... The business was a reclamation company and had used industrial cooling oil. Since I had only one winch & cable on this wrecker I poured some of the oil (with the company's permission) onto the tires of the truck and ground & with one cable & 3 (groups of) chains, one to the tow hook in the tractor, one to the frame of tractor between tandems & one to the trailer suspension, all at length to pull evenly, I very slowly, adding oil as needed, winched the truck in a "V" out of his situation. The owners of the company were friends of mine and before I was done with the pull Bob called me & told me not to finish up until he got there as he had not told this driver that he was bringing another driver to finish things up there & take the truck back to the terminal and that the driver who did this was being terminated.

This was in 1978 & Parrish Leasing had won the contract to provide leased units to what was then Wabash Fibre Box in Ft Wayne, IN. We also had to purchase the tractors that were currently under lease which were 7 IHC Fleetstar's which became the Brothers Express fleet of city tractors. There were actually 7 of the R Model's but we only delivered 5 on this Saturday morning. They had already put 2 into service earlier in the week.

While this isn't the 1st Mack that I drove it is from the same era. The first Mack I drove was a 1975 Cruiseliner with an (I believe) ENDT 866 & a 5 speed. Not only was it the 1st Mack that I drove, it was the first licensed vehicle of any kind I had ever driven at age 14. When I see the pic of Mike H's red Cruiselner it puts me in mind of Unit 350 which was the number of the truck. The one pictured is 360. 330 was a V8/5speed powered R700 that was purchased along with the V8 Cruiseliner, 350 then 360 & 361 were I6/5speeds. This began several years of Cruiseliner purchases at Parrish Leasing. When all was said and done we had been through 26 Cruiseliners before going to MH613's. Many of the Cruiseliners were kitted into R Models & early CH600 gliders and the donor's where scrapped.

I'm not a fan of the customized Cruiseliner but it does show some talent to make it look that good.

If I'm not mistaken, that is actually the prototype COE "Prosleeper" that was at IHC's design center on Meyer Rd in Ft Wayne/New Haven IN. The Prosleeper was the "flatfloor" COE. I had the opportunity to be in that truck during a benchmarking session. JB Hunt, at the time, had IHC wrapped around their little finger to the point that they could demand that certain IHC employees be relocated to Arkansas to be closer to Hunt's corporate HQ. This truck was almost completely assembled with cotter pins, duct tape & velcro because it was a prototype and they were moving and fitting everything where they could. It wasn't surprising at all that a prototype would be in Hunt livery at the time but it was only a year or so later that Freightliner got their foot in the door at both Hunt & Schneider and that pretty well spelled doom for IHC as they had put a lot of their eggs in those two baskets.

He has left every forum that I am on. I don't have any info on him. Sorry.

Much less and it's scrap value then everyone on here would be complaining because he's selling it to a scrapper.... A lot of complaining about asking prices being too high, a lot of complaining because guys sell their own property to someone who ships it overseas, a lot of complaining about guys scraping trucks. I wish I had the money to buy at will, but like almost everyone, I don't so I just accept the fate that these vehicles see.

Well... It's not the big stuff but here is my snow removal equipment. I got out of the contract snow removal a couple years ago so I sold the Mule but still have the truck. The last two pic's are from the last weekend in January just a few days before January 2014 became the January with the most snow in the history of record keeping for the Ft Wayne, IN area at 30" which bumped 1982 to #2 & the blizzard of '78 to #4. Incidentally Feb 1st became the wettest Feb 1st in history when we got 1.14 inches of rain.... We're bracing for Tuesday afternoon into Wednesday afternoon now.

Glad you made it over from Just Old Trucks. There are some faces that you will see there & here.

The model kit that was available during that period. I began a build on this painting it like one of our units but never got it completed...