Red Horse

You seem to have a very broad knowledge of the world scene. Off topic but could you answer this. Ford still builds the Cargo, including one that looks very similar to the clss 7 Cargo that was last built at Louisville before they gve the biusiness away to Daimler. But they also build a bigger version-in Brazil and Turkey. The Brazil built truck has an 8.3 Cummins but the Turk built truck has what they call a 9 liter "Duratorque". What or should I say, who builds that? Ford also just announced they would build a new "world" heavy truck combining the Brazilian version and the Turkish version but that it would be bigger rated for 56 tons with a new fuel efficient engine. Any clue? I have seen videos of the Turk trucks and they are heavy looking cab overs. In some footage they show quad axles with what look like 15/18 yard dump bodies. in very severe service-can't imagine the road network in that part of the world is hardly "Interstate" spec. Wonder if any of those components could end up in US Fords when Bluediamond is dissolved and class6/7 and maybe baby 8 goes to Ohio.

Hmmnn. I wonder if that is why the literature is so sparse about frame specs. In the old days they would list PSI, Section modulus etc. Then again I just have a bunch of the glossy stuff they handed out at Macungie. The less specific they are, the easier it is to mask the commonality of the two. And if you are correct on the new global cab, that will make the case stronger to shut Mack down-hate to say it but that is typically what happens in most "mergers". My bet is people in the corporate structure are known as "heritage Volvo" or "heritage Mack". Guess who always has the upper hand.

Thx- I thought Hagerstown was still called a "Mack" plant. What about the transmissions? Those are built in Hagerstown too -as are the rears? My fear is at some point, the Swedes will say...."duplicated effort- why do we have another marketing organization, why are we building ANOTHER cab structure, etc. etc. And someone will say.."yeah the old Mack customer base? Pretty soon they will all be gone". Case closed. Hope I'm wrong.

Can anyone tell me what is common to these engines? Or is a better question, what isn't the same?-other than color?

Got my B model straps from Cleveland Tank. they have quite abit of stuff. check out website at Clevelandtank.com

This is a test for you old dudes. Anyone remember Peter Longo Trucking? He had a fleet of big Fords when I -91 was built in the early 60's. Mostly T-950's -ten wheelers but also tandem tractors pulling Fruehauf bathtubs. Red with yellow lettering.

Murk?

You wouldn't be related to a guy who had a fuel oil business in the Newburgh area back in 60's/70's?

Very good- but just think with today's regulations, if you could still get a 71 series in a new truck, together with all your normal registration, permit and inspection fees, you would have to file an environmental impact statement and also have a Coast Guard spill plan with you! But I do miss tjhe 6-71!

Yeah but then the windshield will leak!

5thW-Thx-This is the stuff that makes this interesting-you post something and someone digs up a bit more history-I wonder who got it originally from the city?

For sure-don't see many LJ's with rock bodies-make that don't see many TRUCKS with rock bodies.!

I think some of the boys in the local ATCA chapter have some pix- I'll see if I can somehow get something I can post-with some help from my kids! Many years ago I used to deliver cement to the Rosenfeld plant in Needham-or was it Dedham? Seemed like they had a fair amount in boneyard.

Sorry-no U's

You'd appreciate this then. 25+ years ago I lived in No. Andover and I would take my kids out past the Rea's house and all these B's would have their noses sticking out of their stalls. Little did I know some day......

Sorry about that- here are pix

Here is my B at Rea Construction's barn, No. Andover MA. Ken Rea and his dad ran a number of B models for years. I believe they were second owners of this B-60X which guy before them had repowered with a 711. In '79 they put a 237 reman in it that had 10,000 miles on it. I bought it from them, put a new Galion on it (kept old hoist) and reworked the front end. Maxidyne with a Duplex and CRD -62 rear with 6.67 gears

Here is Mike Trotto's B-81X-Before and after. Truck was originally a B-80 purchased by city of Worcester. Truck sat in a lot on Rt.70 in Boylston for a long time-this fired my interest in owning a B Model

How about 5 FJ's!

How about this Hallamore KW. Not sure what it has for power-picture taken on Eastern Ave. Chelsea Ma during a sub station upgrade for Nstar.

O & G, Mack, then Ford, then Sterling, NOW Paccar.

What do you figure-two days for a pre trip?

Welcome from Bolton MA. I do believe I met your dad at the Hudson show a year or two ago. I believe I have his card somewhere. Was C & J a John Deere dealer at one time?

If it just crapped out today, stuff in freezer should be okay for a day or two if you don't keep opening the door.

Amen. I've been thinking of my grandkids all day. We can just keep these people in our thoughts and prayers. The speeches will begin on gun control but I'm afraid are issues go beyond that.