Red Horse

Here is Mike Trotto's B-81X-Before and after. Truck was originally a B-80 purchased by city of Worcester. Truck sat in a lot on Rt.70 in Boylston for a long time-this fired my interest in owning a B Model

How about 5 FJ's!

How about this Hallamore KW. Not sure what it has for power-picture taken on Eastern Ave. Chelsea Ma during a sub station upgrade for Nstar.

O & G, Mack, then Ford, then Sterling, NOW Paccar.

What do you figure-two days for a pre trip?

Welcome from Bolton MA. I do believe I met your dad at the Hudson show a year or two ago. I believe I have his card somewhere. Was C & J a John Deere dealer at one time?

If it just crapped out today, stuff in freezer should be okay for a day or two if you don't keep opening the door.

Amen. I've been thinking of my grandkids all day. We can just keep these people in our thoughts and prayers. The speeches will begin on gun control but I'm afraid are issues go beyond that.

We are in the same ball park-mine is a 56. Matt Pfahl had a bunch of these made-heavy composite.

A m atter of opinion,but these are what I consider "old style"

Nice Fenders and headlight panels-look new!

When in doubt, get a rag, get under the truck, and read what is stamped on the driver side of the trans case.

thx Brocky

good points. Would be nice to see a full explanation in future WOT that details costs and seeks suggestions for improving on same. Like your point on the type of bus. Think the majority of guys would object to a city bus or heaven forbid- a school bus!

Brocky,Thx for the facts. Easy to be a Monday AM QB, but seems pretty basic to me. Guaranteeing rooms has big time risk. What is the point of that? You provide everyone with a list of hotels, distance, rates. That's it-everyone is on their own. Parking revenue? That is a matter of hardnosed negotiation with Big E. You want to rollover and give it all to them? so be it. 32 grand for shuttle busses? Say that is ten grand a day. Say of 1000 trucks registered, assume 400 trucks at hotels $14,400@ 2 people per truck means 800 people moving AM/PM. 800/50= 16 bus trips. Assume Average hotel was a one hour RT, assume a school bus costs 150 an hour, 150 x 16 x 2 (AM and PM) x 3 days = $14,400. I would say all in all not a very good job of cost containment-assuming cost containment is recognized as a real objective. Then again, if its a matter of raising annual dues to cover the loss, so be it. I've been active in our local non profit agricultural fair for the last 20 years. Unless you make it a habit of "leaving no stone unturned" you can bet your butt you will get your clock cleaned. Sounds like that was the case here

Guys, Check out the ATHS forum. Couple of responses that seem to point to "hotel issue" and "convention costs". As I did nothing but bring my truck down and spend three days at the show, I have no clue as to the hotel issue or just how the "convention costs" were a factor-although I thought you had to pay for everything-that is, nothing was a "freebie".

Well I just did a post on the ATHS site and thought I would ask the same question here. I heard the National show lost money. With almost record truck registration and good crowds I find it hard to believe it did not at least break even. Anyone have a clue?

You sure that shovel is B-E? I would guess it was a Lima or a Lorain.

Mdog- Isn't a bigger issue if the wedge or spacer is wrong, you can make contact on the spoke, but you won't have any clamping force on the rim?

The black B with red frame-that is not Rossi's from rhode Island is it?

Yes- with Ford/Sterling in between!

Big 10-4 Maddog....."Aluminum is only good for tea kettles". Quote from an old fleet maintenance guy who worked for my company when I started in 1966. Guy who drove the circuit, when he got to the shop, pulled out his full length shop coat and his thick bound book that kept all his notes-no laptops!

If you haven't seen the movie "Obama 2016" go see it. It will scare the shit out of you and probably reaffirm everything you have been thinking about this fraud.

I hate to say it guys, but our B models of yesterday were in class by themselves. And the 100% Mack driveline was a selling point for sure. But today, as someone else said-thjey've been "Volvonized"-or words to that effect. My concern is some day the big cheeses in Sweden will say..."why do we need Mack? Its our engine? duplicated costs, blah blah". Keep in mind, the customer base that saw the value of an integrated truck-engine, trans,axles_ is getting older (ugh!). And while no one has that same degree of integration today, they are working at it-at least as far as engines are concerned with F'liner having Detroit and Mercedes power, Paccar their own engines via their Euro connection and now even International with their own attempt at building big power. As for the comments on today's "drivers", I say when I'm going down the road in my 56 year old B-61, some guys-young and old will blow horns, wave, thumbs up etc. Others go by and no recognition-I might as well be driving a Toyota corolla. The difference? As I see it, some guys have a passion for what they do-others drive a truck for a living and that is it-no passion for what they do.

Well I did a brief search. Everything points to Brazil. So at least its not a Chinese co.-yet-that will steal our technology and then price us out of business.