fjh Posted December 31, 2025 Share Posted December 31, 2025 3 minutes ago, fjh said: Nah we have all the say ! He just owns the truck! 😂 I have actually adjusted one or two of these easier to remove it more room to work! If the ring will move is another issue! When we get our worker back he can decide!😂🙄 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75888-cruiseliner-transformation/page/6/#findComment-588102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted December 31, 2025 Share Posted December 31, 2025 I made a tool for that. Sometimes the ring isn't very cooperative. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75888-cruiseliner-transformation/page/6/#findComment-588103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted December 31, 2025 Share Posted December 31, 2025 18 minutes ago, Mark T said: I made a tool for that. Sometimes the ring isn't very cooperative. I have resorted to an impact chisel for these ! I have a 16 inch one just for this job! They can get nasty seized ! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75888-cruiseliner-transformation/page/6/#findComment-588106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseliner64 Posted December 31, 2025 Author Share Posted December 31, 2025 Thanks for the replys guys.On the build sheet for our Cruiseliner the clutch is described as a 14 inch twin dry plate self adjusting Spicer/Dana unit.When we got the truck there was no free play at the pedal.I removed the small plate with the 2 bolts and the small adjuster cog behind it which was stuck with dust.I then adjusted the larger adjuster wheel by tapping gently on the teeth with a screwdriver/rubber mallet untill I got 1 3/4in free play at the pedal.I found nothing that even looks like a clutch brake or parts of one in the bell houseing.Did it ever have one or was it removed by someone else?? I dont know. However my question is not clutch adjustment but trow out bearing adjustment.Iv read the trow out bearing should have a 1/2in gap between it and the pressure plate but ours is 3/4in. The clutch is working fine as it is with no grinding going into gear moving off.....maybe I should just leave well enough alone??? Paul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75888-cruiseliner-transformation/page/6/#findComment-588109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted December 31, 2025 Share Posted December 31, 2025 Interesting... I never saw the adjustment gap related to the pressure plate, only between the throwout bearing and the clutch brake.... Well... I just learned something. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75888-cruiseliner-transformation/page/6/#findComment-588111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseliner64 Posted December 31, 2025 Author Share Posted December 31, 2025 1 hour ago, Joey Mack said: Interesting... I never saw the adjustment gap related to the pressure plate, only between the throwout bearing and the clutch brake.... Well... I just learned something. You could be right Joey,I thought the article I read said bearing to pressure plate but now I'll read it again tomorrow and see.......thanks Paul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75888-cruiseliner-transformation/page/6/#findComment-588120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted December 31, 2025 Share Posted December 31, 2025 Paul confused us all with a couple pictures of his clutch. He's probably thinking " wtf did these guys do first time they got a look in a Playboy magazine ?" The 1/2" should be between where the bearing and clutch brake is where it would squeeze against the front of the transmission. Which we can't see that in the pictures. Gotta remember, the more the big ring is turned to adjust it, the less holding force the clutch has. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75888-cruiseliner-transformation/page/6/#findComment-588123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Geoff Weeks Posted December 31, 2025 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2025 (edited) 9 hours ago, Mark T said: . Gotta remember, the more the big ring is turned to adjust it, the less holding force the clutch has. Ok, since nobody wants to read the link, here are some screenshots that explain adjusting. 9/16 between bearing and cover with pedal depressed, 1/2 between back of bearing and clutch brake or bearing retainer with clutch pedal released. If you don't have a clutch brake installed the 1/2"measurement means nothing. Angle spring clutches maintain clamp pressure through out the life of the clutch, which is why they are internally adjusted. Edited December 31, 2025 by Geoff Weeks 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75888-cruiseliner-transformation/page/6/#findComment-588130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted December 31, 2025 Share Posted December 31, 2025 13 hours ago, cruiseliner64 said: Thanks for the replys guys.On the build sheet for our Cruiseliner the clutch is described as a 14 inch twin dry plate self adjusting Spicer/Dana unit.When we got the truck there was no free play at the pedal.I removed the small plate with the 2 bolts and the small adjuster cog behind it which was stuck with dust.I then adjusted the larger adjuster wheel by tapping gently on the teeth with a screwdriver/rubber mallet untill I got 1 3/4in free play at the pedal.I found nothing that even looks like a clutch brake or parts of one in the bell houseing.Did it ever have one or was it removed by someone else?? I dont know. However my question is not clutch adjustment but trow out bearing adjustment.Iv read the trow out bearing should have a 1/2in gap between it and the pressure plate but ours is 3/4in. The clutch is working fine as it is with no grinding going into gear moving off.....maybe I should just leave well enough alone??? Paul If You can get it into gear with out grinding AND you have the Inch and a half on the pedal I agree leave the bear sleeping! If it aint broke don't fix it! never seen one with out a clutch brake how ever ! in a unit this old they tended to put a spring loaded plate on the trans side for the brake to but against this one apears to have nothing! A picture with the pedal to the floor would maybe tell us if the brake is there or not! 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75888-cruiseliner-transformation/page/6/#findComment-588135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted December 31, 2025 Share Posted December 31, 2025 The 1/2" measurement is so the linkage has enough travel before it squeezes the clutch brake. Since you don't have a clutch brake installed you can ignore this measurement and just set the ~9/16" measurement between the T/O bearing and the clutch cover with the pedal pressed Why you don't have a clutch brake is anyone's guess. The 9/16" will put the throw-out in the area where it should be. You can check the free play when it is set there. With a properly set-up clutch and linkage, you want free play at the top, the arm set to where it has the most mechanical advantage when pulling in the angle spring, and enough travel before the clutch brake is squeezed against the bearing retainer to full release the clutch. It is all in the manual I posted a link too. Without a clutch brake installed, setting the T/O where it is at the best mechanical advantage on the lever and still maintains the correct free play is all you need to worry about. If the trans is ever pulled, I would install a torque limiting clutch brake, I wouldn't bother installing a 2 piece brake (just me, you do what you want) and just wait a bit for the gears to stop spinning before putting in low or reverse. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75888-cruiseliner-transformation/page/6/#findComment-588137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted December 31, 2025 Share Posted December 31, 2025 Hehe mark I guess that… my manual isn’t much help either it’s dated 83 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75888-cruiseliner-transformation/page/6/#findComment-588141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted December 31, 2025 Share Posted December 31, 2025 2 hours ago, mowerman said: Hehe mark I guess that… my manual isn’t much help either it’s dated 83 🤷♂️ sometimes when those self adjusting ones stop self adjusting, it's cause they shouldn't be adjusted any more. Clutch becomes hard as a rock to push in and usually no longer engages smoothly. I think F has the right idea. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75888-cruiseliner-transformation/page/6/#findComment-588145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrsmackpaul Posted January 1 Popular Post Share Posted January 1 Well I have not much to add here, clutch brakes are a yanky thing more than a thing for the rest of the world we just sort of feel the gears and and slot it when parked in traffic, no biggie once your used to it 1/2 inch is normal Free play is more important than the factory spec, as long as you have 1 - 2 inches of free play on the pedal I think your good to go Guessing the self adjustment has seized up due to lack of use Good job Geoff Weeks on finding the manual, and yes, if I ever had the box out I would put a clutch brake in, then get used to driving it again with a clutch brake Happy New Year everyone, I missed it and was in the fart sack by 9.30pm Paul 4 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75888-cruiseliner-transformation/page/6/#findComment-588157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cruiseliner64 Posted 20 hours ago Author Popular Post Share Posted 20 hours ago Hi all.Im back!!!...Have been very unwell for the last 12 days.Really nasty dose of the flu going around the city where we are.Theres been a number of deaths from it including a 25 year old guy and 28 year old woman.....Many thanks for the replies on the clutch...Boy am I a dum a&&...Me thinking it was a push one but of course its a pull job..Thanks to Geoff Weeks for the pdf we will get it sorted.No other news on the Cruiseliner front as havent been able to get to it...... Paul 3 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75888-cruiseliner-transformation/page/6/#findComment-588975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago Glad you are well. I just caught a bug yesterday, myself.. The truck looks great. Did you see that Nathan is selling his ? 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75888-cruiseliner-transformation/page/6/#findComment-588976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago that sucks,,,,glad your better,,,and best of luck joey,,bob 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75888-cruiseliner-transformation/page/6/#findComment-588979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseliner64 Posted 17 hours ago Author Share Posted 17 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, Joey Mack said: Glad you are well. I just caught a bug yesterday, myself.. The truck looks great. Did you see that Nathan is selling his ? Thanks Joey,yeah we are very happy with the truck so far.I knew before Christmas Nathen was thinking of selling his Cruiseliner but he asked me to say nothing.A truck he wants has come up for sale but he wont say what it is yet......pity we would have liked to put the two sisters together at some point in time.Oh and look after yourelf Joey those bugs are bloody nasty. Paul Edited 17 hours ago by cruiseliner64 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75888-cruiseliner-transformation/page/6/#findComment-589003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseliner64 Posted 17 hours ago Author Share Posted 17 hours ago 2 hours ago, mowerman said: that sucks,,,,glad your better,,,and best of luck joey,,bob Thanks Bob..... Paul 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75888-cruiseliner-transformation/page/6/#findComment-589004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago Im good Paul. Thanks. Any chance you can get Whit's truck ? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75888-cruiseliner-transformation/page/6/#findComment-589005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseliner64 Posted 14 hours ago Author Share Posted 14 hours ago 2 hours ago, Joey Mack said: Im good Paul. Thanks. Any chance you can get Whit's truck ? No im afraid not.The import tax would add 45% to the sale price.That plus shipping would make it about 50k in euros 58k dollars US.......😪 Paul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75888-cruiseliner-transformation/page/6/#findComment-589010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago Ouch! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75888-cruiseliner-transformation/page/6/#findComment-589012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Man, you said it wow Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75888-cruiseliner-transformation/page/6/#findComment-589023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseliner64 Posted 4 hours ago Author Share Posted 4 hours ago 4 hours ago, Joey Mack said: Ouch! Sad thing is if the UK was still in the EU we could import that truck for a flat rate registration charge of 200 euro about 230 US dollars....🥶 Paul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75888-cruiseliner-transformation/page/6/#findComment-589027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Dammit Man ! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75888-cruiseliner-transformation/page/6/#findComment-589029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Sounds like housing over here … this area and a good part of California… upcoming generation can’t even afford to buy a house now … it’s disgusting … our overpriced gasoline finally dropped after trump took office and even that took almost a year… bob 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75888-cruiseliner-transformation/page/6/#findComment-589030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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