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That "A" model cab and chassis fire truck looks like it once served Township 17, Range 4 & Range 5 Fire Department in Maine. This is an area of extreme northern Maine where there are few incorporated towns; instead there are plantations, townships, gores, and other unincorporated places. T17, R4 & R5 F.D. has since changed its name to North Lakes Fire Rescue. That "B" model deluxe cab looks familiar. Did Paul Romano once own that? Loss of that "C125" is a shame. bulldogboy

Must not have made the final cut. When I joined the service in 1970 the crash trucks were O-11As, O-11Bs, and the newest were 1960s FWD P-2s. In the mid-1970s the Oshkosh P-4 came along to replace the Os. Too bad, I would have liked to have seen an MB-3 in action. bulldogboy

I believe that the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority (MBTA) still runs some "trackless trolleys" in the Watertown, MA area. Don't think that they are Macks, though. bulldogboy

I think that Meadowood disbanded last year. Meadowood was a private fire department located in Fitzwilliam, NH (Fitzwilliam has its own fire department). Their mission was to operate a fire training school and to supply specialized equipment that was not available in rural N.H., VT., and MA. back in the '60s and '70s. Their first aerial was a 1956 Ford "F" with a Sponco electric ladder. They later had several Mack Aerialscopes and even a rescue truck built on a Mack Aerialscope chassis. They had one of the first FD dive teams in the area. bulldogboy

There is a photo of a USAF MB-3 on page 183 of Harvey Eckart's book, "Mack Fire Apparatus, A Pictorial History". kscarbel, were any MB-3s ever put into service? When I was in the USAF the crash trucks from the 1950s were O-10s, O-11As, and O-11Bs, all built by American LaFrance. None of my training manuals mentions an MB-3. bulldogboy

Where in New Hampshire did you haul the fire truck? Looking forward to the pictures. bulldogboy

When I was an Air Force firefighter all the fire trucks were the same no matter where you were stationed. The P-2s, O-6s, O-11Bs, 750As, and 530Bs were the same at each base; it made training easier so that when you were transferred the equipment was the same. Probably the same with the Cat engines; made it easier for the motor pool if all engines were the same. As was mentioned earlier, vehicles on Air Force bases didn't travel far or fast. The fact that a lot of these Mack and Dodge refuelers are still in fire department service says a lot about their durability even if they didn't have any panache. bulldogboy

A former USAF refueler; most were built on Mack or Dodge chassis. Many found a second life as fire department water tankers after their military careers were over. bulldogboy

Nashua, NH Public Works Department operates this 2012 Ford F-650 with a V-10 engine converted to CNG. bulldogboy

Passed a Pitt-Ohio Ford F-750 last month in Wilkes-Barre, PA while I was on my way to Mohegan Sun to make a donation. bulldogboy

Joe: How's everything at Yocum Creek F.D.? The Mack still running okay? bulldogboy

Merrimack Concrete Products; brings back memories; their plant was on Route 3 in the Thornton's Ferry section of Merrimack. I knew of two of those IHs used as fire trucks in southern N.H. Londonderry's was a 1957, only had one headlight on each side. Another was a 1958 fire alarm truck, it had dual headlights. bulldogboy

BOB DINGSDALE: Thanks for the info about the bulldog and different chrome strips on the "L" models. The "L" models I worked on were all pre-1950 so, other than the bumper, I didn't realize that there were other cosmetic changes made in later years. bulldogboy

SMFire History: I believe that the "L" model in the old station photos is older than 1952. The telltale item is the front bumper, it is smaller than the one on your '52. "L"s had the smaller bumper until 1949 or thereabouts. Nice old pictures, they remind me of my department when I started my career. bulldogboy

On page 79 of Harvey Eckart's book, "Mack Fire Apparatus, A Pictorial History", there is a photo of Engine 23, a 1954 Mack "LT" 1000 GPM pumper delivered to Glendale, CA. The photo is black and white but it is obviously not red; either yellow or white. It is a semi-cab which means it has doors but no roof. An open cab has no doors and no roof; real old time firefighting! Harvey's books are a must for anyone interested in all types of Mack fire apparatus. bulldogboy

cummins6900: I think that we all want every Mack saved (especially fire trucks) but realistically that is not possible. The fact that some Lynnfield parts will help keep other Macks running is great. The department that I worked for had a lot of "L", "B", and "CF" trucks but I think that some of them were scrapped; a couple are still around. BTW, what happened to the other Aerialscope? bulldogboy

The Aruba Fire Department (Brandweer Aruba) used to have three or four "MS" /E-One pumpers, an "MS" model rescue, and an "MC"/E-One pumper tanker. When I was there I only saw the rescue truck at the airport station. I stopped by the other two stations, Tanque Flippi and San Nicolas, but neither of them had any Macks. Couldn't get anywhere near the airport station. bulldogboy

Green Dash: On behalf of all of us on BMT, please pat yourself on the back. bulldogboy

The lettering on the wagon says "St. Louis"; there is also a team stationed at the AB brewery in Merrimack, NH. Their wagon is lettered for Merrimack, NH; they also cover the Northeast U.S. The Clydesdale Village in Merrimack is a nice place to take the kids. Also, free samples at the brewery for the adults. bulldogboy

Wow, all of this information makes my head spin. Mack must have had a VP in charge of nothing else but thinking up letters and numbers to designate all its various models. bulldogboy

Brian: I'll try to give you a quick explanation as I understand it but I'm sure that the others on these forums who are much more knowledgeable about fire apparatus will jump in. Mack started with two models, a "Junior" series and a "Senior" series. "Juniors" were medium duty trucks and "Seniors" were heavy duty. Later the "AB" replaced the "Junior" and the "AC" replaced the "Senior" series. I'm not sure why Mack used the various letters to designate their models. Next came the early "B" series in the 1930s, then the medium duty "E" and heavy duty "L" models. Within each series there were many models, some were available as conventional or traffic type chassis. Fire apparatus was usually designated according to the motors used and pump size. A "Type 45" fire engine was a smaller "E" series with a 500 GPM pump, a "Type 75" had a 750 GPM pump and so on. Later "L-85", "B-85" and "C"-85" had 750 GPM pumps, "L-95", "B-95", and "C-95" had 1000 GPM pumps. The "C" model was Mack's first cab forward design in the 1950s later replaced by the more modern "CF" series in the late 1960s. The Mack "Junior" line of the 1930s (not to be confused with the earlier "Junior" series) was not built by Mack, they were built by REO under license from Mack. This model gave Mack a truck in the light duty category. I know that this is probably too simple of an explanation but, like I said, others here will add a lot more information. If you can, pick up a copy of one, or both, of the Mack fire apparatus books written by Harvey Eckart. Read those and all will be revealed. bulldogboy

MADDOG93: Is that photo on the right front of the engine taken when it was in Alexandria, NH? Looks like the photo that I have seen. bulldogboy

KW and Peterbilt build four door chassis for emergency service use. Too bad Mack didn't offer a four door "Granite"; that would make an awesome fire engine platform. bulldogboy

I always like a photo of a "B" model pumper parked on the apron. Brings back a lot of memories of my early career. bulldogboy

Mine says "bye". bulldogboy