BottleHauler84

I just enjoy all the knowledge and ideas here. Talking with the machine shop friend a little bit ago, he has some 5/8 and 3/4 plate left over from a job i can get really reasonable. We are going to start fabing one of these plates up next week.

Thats what I gathered thus far. A big Thanks to you guys here explaining the purpose of the tool I now understand exactly what its purpose is. I have rebuilt eaton and rockwell diffs quite a bit and this procedure isn't something you have to do obviously being a hypoid setup with them, so this concept was a bit foreign to me. Now that I get it, as Joey suggested, one of the most important aspects of this tool will be the height of the dowel pins or support pins and being perfect even. Im definitely going to get some measurements off some empty axle housings I have and check measurements off of a couple 202 and 92 series carriers i have sitting around.

I dont know why I said 4 "bearing caps"....that was stupid. I ment to say the 2 bearing caps, with the 4 ears just as you said that. Thanks for correcting me.

@fjh does that tool fit snug around all 4 bearing caps once you put it on them or is there some clearance for it to move a little bit? The only info I have about it is just the pictures of it in the manual. Unfortunately, I've never gotten to use one to see it up close. Just curious.

Thats a good point. Ill definitely have to pay attention to that when I start. Joey, how thick of steel would you guess that tool is made out of? 1/2" or maybe 3/4"?

Good idea. So just brainstorming here, but if I were to make the caging plate im guessing that it needs to fit nice a snug on the bearing caps of the carrier thats hasn't been taken apart yet? That should theoretically be the actual fitting measurements to make it work when workingon any of the carriers (92/93 and 202/203), like you suggested basically. If I make one, im making two and im sending one to you, JoJo!

I gotcha. Well honestly, id really be interested in having one made. The plate itself looks pretty straight forward, but I think what is gonna get me is the absolute correct measurements. I also need to get a little more understanding how the dowels will work and the right height and specs on those but I feel like it could be done. Personally I think that plate would be easier for me to make. I have a Bridgeport mill and I think i could keep tinkering until I got it right. Definitely easier than trying to make the power divider cam holding fixture in my opinion.

I wish I could see that procedure first hand as well! Might help me to understand just how i can make such a tool.

Joey, I appreciate that explanation. It makes sense, I just wish I could see better pictures of one or see one in person to fully grasp the idea. Did I see it correctly, it has sorta like dowel pins where it can be raised up and set on the carrier flange while supporting the edge of the bearing caps? Im still really looking this tool over. I have not tried disassembly yet of the 200 series. Its gonna be a winter project, so ill be bugging you for advice lol. Thank you already for the heads up and insight. You, @fjh, @kt_Engineer and several others are a life saver for us younger guys that wants to learn and keep these old Mack trucks going.

So, that was my next question. I have never used that caging tool because I haven't done a full 200 series rebuild, but how exactly does the caging tool work in this situation? I know that might be really difficult to try to explain on here but I feel like that tool my machinist might be able to help me make. Im just curious how tight it fits up against the bearing caps. Its an interesting tool and id like to know more about it.

@Joey Mack

Hey Joey! Check out one of my latest scores! I found and was able to purchase one of the special tools. The power divider outter cam holding fixture. Man that thing really makes that job alot easier than the homemade one.

How did this project end up turning out? Just curious if you were able to complete it.

I thank you for that Joey, and I appreciate your wealth of information. Happy Thanksgiving guys.

Hey Joey, I've been digging around looking for that book. I have them from 1990 to 1994 and 2001 to 2006. I can't find the spec books for 1995 thru 1999. Would you be able to show the pages with the 427 and 454 specs for the 1995 to 1997 engines?

Where are you located?

Yeah i know, I was curious whatever came of it and weather or not he got it sorted out. Just found the thread interesting.

I absolutely agree with you 100%. As many of those dome lights that were used, you would think there would be a few NOS ones floating around.

As soon as I put my hands on one I'll let you know bud. I too am not a fan of changing the wiring connections. I want to keep as original as possible. I'd love to find a brand new old stock, but has proven to be impossible unfortunately. I'll definitely post the results of this soon as I get it.

The dome/map light i was looking for is the one Mack used in some of the 92-93 model MH. My MH is a 93, but it was missing when i got the truck. Apparently there had been a small leak at some point at the airhorn and they took the dome light and headliner out when they were working on it. The dome light never got replaced for some reason. So when I ran across this these threads with Farmer and BC and a couple others talking about this, I wanted to share what info I had. I just basically want this style because it's original to my year of MH cabover. Here's the one I'm talking about mowerman. Vanderhaggs has this one listed for sake, but it's busted up so I've been trying to find a good one out of a salvage truck.

And here is pictures from another freightliner, it's a 85 FLC conventional. It seems Freightliner used a bunch of these lights in cabover and conventional trucks from 83 to about 88 or so.

These are pics in a 87 Freightliner FLA cabover at a salvage yard

No sir, but I actually did just go thru this. I've been meaning to post up where I got all new headlight buckets. SLC lighting in Ohio actually still sells the exact 4x6 buckets we use.

Tell him in the research I've been doing, those dome lights were used in alot of Freightliner FLA cabovers 83-88ish. Also in FLC 86-88ish. So far I've found a few, but trying to get them bought. Hopefully if I do end up with a few I can help some of the fellow MH guys out.

Farmer, did you ever find anymore info on this dome/map light? I'm in the search right now for one but not having any luck. However, I'm being told that those same lights were also used in older Freightliner FLC model trucks. So I'm searching those also.