Bullheaded

I was watching a show (Machinery of the Past) on the Rural Channel we have hear. A guy had an old Mack, I think it was 1930's? Anyway he said Mack used International motors at the time. I have never heard this? I'm thinking the guy was just mis-informed because Mack started out as International Motor Truck Company. So am I right or did Mack ever source an engine from International Harvester?

Wow! More cool info. I never even knew they had Dodge trucks in Australia. And they look nothing like the ones we had. So they were popular in Australia? Isn't it funny how that goes too.....International has built trucks for all of the "big three"

I can't even get excited about the new interiors. Less gauges (and unclearly labelled at that), the seats pushed out against the doors and no more paw print floor mats, bulldog emblems or Bulldogs on the mirrors any more. It's like they are trying to erase all hints to Mack heritage. But they aren't the only ones. Just like I said before, the new brain trust at International (who came from Peterbilt...enough said) thought it was a good idea to discontinue all the old heritage names like Paystar, Transtar, etc and replace them with such iconic memorable names like HX, HV, LT, CV. Wow, that's clever.

Regardless of who was better, I have room at my place if anyone wants to park Mack M, Payhauler or R35 Euclid here. I drove an early R35 Euclid with a 6-71 Detroit and no power steering. What an experience that was!

Thanks for those pics KS. I wonder what problems they had? I have read that these Payhaulers would run circles around the Mack and Euclids of the time. They said they had higher top speed than all the other haul trucks of the time. (I'm talking about these original late 50's/early 60's Payhaulers.) But the ones that came with Rolls Royce engines had problems, like high oil consumption and failures. (IH Canada used a lot of Rolls Royce power at at time.) Now the later Payhaulers with all wheel drive that had the dual tires front and rear.....they did not earn a very good reputation for reliability. There are still one or two of those working in our local steel mill.

So just started reading a book my good friend Hank sent me. "A History and Memories of International Harvester In Canada 1903-1985" I recommend this book to all IH fans. Which led me to searching Google Images, so sorry, I cannot credit the taker of this pic. Anyway, not only was Ontario, Canada the home of the Mack M-Series off road trucks, but also the Payhauler. Man, were these (and the Mack M) ever good looking trucks!

https://www.trucknews.com/transportation/volvo-builds-a-truck-tower-with-new-rigs/1003136772/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=newcom&utm_campaign=TruckNewsDaily&utm_content=2020022670048 Kinda like how they stack them at the scrap yard. LOL

Heard a rumor Ram is ditching the Aisin transmission and will be offering the Allison behind the Cummins soon?

I remember when I used to look forward to my new Mack calendar every year from my dealer. Western Star used to have nice ones too, but the last couple I got they started using cartoon pics instead of real trucks. I don't even bother getting one from my dealer any more.

I've ran a few 1980's R Model's with E6 350's that grossed 140,000 pounds their whole life and they had the odometers rolled past zero two and three times also. Last one I ran even had the very last E6 motor to come off the assembly line according to Mack. Those were the days. Only thing that ever came close to my old R Model was my 2002 International 9900i C15 Cat. It had 1.3 million on it and was never touched, and it's still working every day with it's new owner. Try that with a new emission motor! LOL

This is the deck and winch off a friends bed truck. Look which barrel is crushing and causing it to fall over......the Volvo one! LOL. I thought Volvo's were made of "high strength steel?" LOL I saw that last night and couldn't resist. Wish the pic came out clearer though.

Well for snow removal here for the city, it is by bid and there are guys on the list at $53.00 per hour for a tri-axle. I don't even know how they pay their drivers? Probably not much, LOL.

Well looking back at this thread now I can see I'm stupid. Turned down the job in the mine and went trucking again, LOL Around here Swishy if your new $250,000 truck makes $1200.00 in a 12 hour day you are doing good. It's pretty sad. Will never change.

Yes, being more resistant to rust is good. They just need to work on the repair and replacement costs of those aluminum bodies. My insurance agent told me they don't even fix these new F150's. The cost of repair is so high they just write them off. Dent your outer box side? Over six thousand Canadian dollars for a box side. I see so many of them with damaged tail gates. People don't even replace them, they just leave them bent and dented, LOL

Would love to see those videos mechohaulic. Would be like the old days when they just started El Rodeo Du Camion in Quebec. When it was R Model's racing each other up the hill. Was just talking yesterday with my insurance agent about the crazy rate increases as of late. Among other things, that was one item she pointed out.....the "throw away world of today." She said all these new vehicles, they don't even repair them. They are immediately wrote off. Not even cost effective to fix them any more.

Only two trucks in that class we have left are the Western Star 6900 and the KW C500. They pretty much own the oil fields and logging roads now.

Doesn't that give hints of the last of the Mack RD models with their sloped hoods? That's what I see when I saw these pics. Awesome thread. I have quite a few friends that ran Hayes trucks. The COE and conv highway models and the big fat trucks in the mountains of BC.

Maybe it is the new Volvo heavy haul, vocational and refuse models and the announcement that Mack will now only produce the Anthem and MD series?

I saw those, and was kind of relieved they didn't change it much, because I think the current F150 is the best looking one since 1979. I was also relieved to see this rear view and see that it still has a solid rear axle. Hopefully they keep the new independent rear suspension for just the upscale yuppie grocery getter models. Because when the day comes I gotta take a truck with independent rear suspension that will be the day I keep what I have and not buy any new ones. I already am constantly replacing front control arms and bushings on my cars, due to our crappy roads, don't need to do that on my truck.

OK, I was kinda lost there for a minute, LOL. I wasn't sure what you meant. What the EPA has done to diesel engines is a complete disgrace.

Not sure if you are talking to me? If you are, I already said a new SCR Cat would likely not be any better than any other new engine out there. Just look at the issues with their new loaders and their emission systems. I want pre-emission Cat's back. Which at the end, when Cat announced discontinuation of the cat truck, they did sell some glider's. I should have bought one of those and put a 6NZ in it. As far as new trucks today, my dream truck would be a new International with a Detroit Diesel DD series engine in it. That's what I want!

Isn't it depressing that we will never see anything like that again from Mack.

Thanks 41Chevy!

Found a video. And it even has a legend in it!!

And does anybody have any pics of these civil defense sirens and how they work? They needed a V8 to run them??