1958 F.W.D.

And that my friend is the one single common trait among each and every communist.....errr ahhh I mean Liberal in this country- They hate it when you torpedo the argument with FACT and LOGIC.

A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be a very Liberal Democrat, and among other liberal ideals, was very much in favor of higher taxes to support more government programs, in other words, redistribution of wealth. She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch conservative, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his. One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the need for more government programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she was doing in school. Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend, and didn't really have many college friends, because she spent all her time studying. Her father listened and then asked , 'How is your friend Audrey doing?' She replied, ' Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies, and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She Is so popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She's always invited to all the parties and lots of times she doesn't even show up for classes because she's too hung over.' Her wise father asked his daughter, 'Why don't you go to the Dean's office and ask him to deduct 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA, and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA.' The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily fired back, 'That's a crazy idea, how would that be fair! I've worked really hard for my grades! I've invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!' The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, 'Welcome to The conservative party.' If anyone has a better explanation of the difference between conservative and Liberal I'm all ears. If you ever wondered what side of the fence you sit on, this is a great test! If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one. If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed. If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.. If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone. If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life. If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect. If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation. A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him. If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels. Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down. If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church. A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced. (Unless it's a foreign religion, of course!) If a conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh. A liberal will delete it because he's "offended

The Spring Thaw just isn't what it used to be 10 years ago. Back then, by 0900, the line to get in the door would stretch all the way back and up into the upper level parking lot, and if you were at the end of the line, it was 30-45 minutes to get in the door. Then, when you did get inside, it was shoulder to shoulder people. You could find almost anything antique- truck parts, old gear, equipment, books, magazines, etc. Nowadays it's just getting to be another high-priced tshirt and blue light show. The economy is taking it's toll, as not as many people are showing up, and everything is high-priced- I assume because sellers are not moving as much as they used to, they have to make thier money somehow. Also I have heard that eBay is killing a lot of the "little" sellers. Anymore, I just go to say hello to old friends that I always see there. For you new timers, make sure you have lunch at the RITZ diner, right on the other side of the main parking lot- best Pennsylvania Dutch pulled pork sandwiches and milkshakes ever.

If you have to ask, you can't afford it......LOL

Nice Doug!!!! When my Dad worked for Charles E. Danbury many moons ago pulling new trailers (mostly out of the Trailmobile Plant in Lansdale Pa.) he had a single screw Hayward F-Model with a 300/5 speed and a 2-speed rear. Great truck for pulling trailers only. Then later on when he went to freight he bought an Allentown twin screw, I think it was a 300/10 speed. Nice looking truck, will you have it at Macungie????

The one and only "Mack Oracle" you need to concern yourself with and ask about the filters is Harvey Eckert, who is always at Allentown selling books. I know I have pointed people to him before with parts inquiries.

Get a sample of your crankcase oil analyzed. Dont know where you are located, but check around various truck dealers to see who they use to do analysis. If this does not pan out, call Giles and Ransome (CAT Dealer) in Bensalem, Pa. They will do analysis of anything. You call them, give them your credit card number, and for (if I remember correctly) it's like 28 bucks, they will send you the kit which has: -long thin plastic line (but sturdy!) to snake into your dipstick tube about 4' long -a sample bottle -an overpack bottle -a pre-paid tyvek mailing envelope. All you do is fill out the paperwork they give you as detailed as you can (oil make, type, number of hours or miles, engine make/model/serial etc etc etc.) Get it good and hot, drop the plastic tube down in there with the other end down on the floor, draw a suction on it, let it flow into and fill the bottle, drop that bottle into the overpack bottle, send it off to G & R, and in 5-8 days you will be emailed a complete report with recommendations as to what to do. They might even call you if the situation warrants. I have used them before and they are good people to work with. Had to talk to the girl in the lab on the phone (she had questions for me, I had a sample of my 1958 Waukesha gas engine analyzed and it threw her for a loop at first...hahaha) she really knew her shit and knew engines.

Here is a similar FWD for sale. http://www.desertclassics.com/FWD504x4.html

Might also be an F.W.D.- they used these cabs on a utility truck chassis they marketed for a while.

My 1958 F.W.D. firetruck (F554 Waukesha Gas) gets about 3MPG on a good day going downhill, so my show activities will probably slow down this summer, same as the summer of Katrina......However Macungie is only about 20 miles from the house, so that's one of the shows I WILL make it to.

That one picture of it in front of a firehouse is absolutely no doubt Engine 36 & Ladder 20's house on Frankford Avenue. And Jack Wright is a good man, I have known him for a long time. If he said it, you can etch it in stone.

Captain Bob, you need to private message FDNYTRUCKS.com He is a member here, his name is Mike Martinelli. He is a GOD when it comes to cataloging Mack serial numbers and original purchasers. He maintains meticulous records, and even has extensive records of second and third owners. He might even see this and respond. In fact I will hit him up on facebook and tell him to take a peek here.

Does it matter? it's NOT RED!!!! Either way it's SLIME LIME!

The single screw scope sat outside that grain place next to I95 (the one with the 2 huge grain tanks in Port Richmond) with all the other heavy equipment for years. Dont know what ever happened to it after that.

Yes, that's "The Spring Thaw." Greatest and largest fire flea market in the US.

You really, really need to hook up with Harry Magee. He is a super buff and PFD historian, and knows ways to "get around the property numbers." Anyone else at the Museum (no offense to them) are usually just light-duty firefighters who could really care less about apparatus. And if Harry cannot find what you need without the city property numbers, he knows guys who kept track of that stuff and keep good records.

CONTACT HARRY MAGEE AT FIREMAN'S HALL. Harry is a uniformed Philadelphia Firefighter, permanently detailed to the museum as the curator. Give him a yell during business hours (except mondays when the Museum is closed) and yak with him....tell him what you are looking for. I am sure he could come up with the companies it was assigned to, and see what he has laying around in the archives. He may also be able to see if the companies themselves have anything in their individual archives or hanging up on the walls.

Hahahahahahah Georgie I should have known it was you....."DCC Kaiser." Randy Yardumian here.

Mack did not make the pump. Chances are that it is a Waterous pump, possibly a Hale.

You are not the only one who has tried to talk to that guy about those rigs. Quite a few guys have called there to ask about looking at them for parts or outright total purchase, and for some reason the guy just won't budge. What company you assigned to? I used to live in E71's local. Was a firefighter at the PNSY for a while.

Christ it took you long enough to find this board.

Indeed it was a GREAT day. It was nice to meet you guys, perhaps I may just have to join up the chapter and volunteer my time to the museum.....(what time???) Thank you for all your hard work helping Mack put together this great event!!!!

Does anyone want to meet me on Route 309, in the area of 378 or Quakertown, and convoy in together??? I would meet you further out but I live too close!!! LOL

I'll be there with my 1958 F.W.D. and then probably put her away to hibernate for the winter!!!