Red Horse

Auburn? I do believe that was Red Star's HQ address.

You are ringing a bell on "upstate". Might be right on Red Star. Couple of other names than come to my mind are Inland Express and Onieda?

Don't think so. The Sightliner had a BBC that was under 50" I think. Also I believe it was offered in V-8 gas only

Wonder how much they have been upgrading the rest of the power train beyond the transmission-like u joints, drive shafts, rear differential. These torque numbers (all of them-PStroke and Duramax as well) can be real killers when an idiot driver puts his foot in it and in a worse case scenario, his tires have good traction because of heavy axle loading. Tires may not break loose-but something else will!

thx Rich-nice job

Kind of foots with everything I have heard about them-no complaints, simple and dependable.

Agree on the Cargo. Ford has a big gap in their lineup now as the Transit's max GCW is 10,300 lbs and while I hear good things about the 3.2L Ford Duratorque diesel, there is no diesel LCF type truck above that. And the E 450 cutaway'sdays are numbered although I think they sell around 4000 of those a month. These are built at the Avon Lake Ohio plant that on July 13th (15th?) will start building the new 650/750. Ranger too but that is wishful thining-anything that takes away from150 sales is out of the question I'm afraid.

Seems like a no brainer for GM to keep the dealers happy-Not sure how I would feel however if I were an Isuzu dealer. I thought for sure if GM got back in they would take up Ford's space in the Navistar Escobedo plant. Instead of a Ford Super Duty cab sitting on a Navistar 4000 chassis, you would see a 3500 GM cab. Maybe later? In any case, the little Isuzu diesels have a good rep and that should cause some concern at Ford unless they can engineer their Transit diesel option into something bigger than 10,300 lbs GVW which is currently their biggest van diesel option. Not everyone wants a conventional cab, V-8 powered truck in the 14,000-26,000 lb range IMO

Nice-where was this held? Jim Rousseau's Framingham Maxim??

As I see the situation, the fear is the Ranger T-6 is too close to f-150 size wise and would only canibalize 150 sales. As for the new GM "Canyorado", the ford party line appears to be those trucks are satisfying the pent up ,mid size demand and will eventually fall of in terms of numbers.

Unishift control on dash says to me this was a pit truck for sure in its final years No need for split shifting!

Nice-any clue what the body was for?

Duh!! Must have been late when I wrote that dumb post-thx- I'm thinking doubles-yeah position dolly under kite, then back lead trailer up to dolly

Hmnn-wonder how you hook the third and fourth trailers up? And these look like side dumps with right side a "clam" hinge?

Those I guess were the days-no RPG's, no IED's etc. Just plain thievery to deal with-and I would imagine there was plenty of that.

Hah! Thx I feel better already for not going-got an email earlier -1100 truck! Book should be good this year-NoEast-more Macks fewer Paccars! But again I show my prejudice.

Paul-Very good. Big Red always gets a lot of press-as do the Ford W's that were in actual interplant service. But never saw the Dodge mediums before or the Ford C with a turbine. Likewise I-H and Ford Farm tractors are rare birds!

As always, an interesting topic. and all of these people who seem to have first hand knowledge of Big Red's current location/condition seem to disappear. Would be nice to see a picture! what is interesting to me is how some of this old technology just did not make it but with today's advances in materials and electronics for example, what could be done with something like the Big Red concept which was designed over 50 years ago. Likewise, one of my neighborhood kids is going to attend Letourneau College in the fall to study engineering. School was founded by R. G. Letourneau who invented-or developed diesel -electric off road equipment- scrapers, dozers, rear dumps, loaders. This was back in the forties. I think diesel -electric traction motors are still used in some huge off road haulers but Letourneau the concept in smaller stuff too- like scrapers that were under 30 yards. His mfg co. was ultimately sold to Westinghouse I believe and that was soon the end of it I believe. But again my point-what would a concept like that do today with the advances in materials and electric and hydraulic technologies

Hmnn--I believe that is called....."following too closely". And while there may be drivers in the following trucks, often times they are not awake-or they are adjusting their flip flops

I think your friend shouldn't be in business! If there is ANY question in this guys mind about the responsibility his "driver" bore for this incident says to me his thought process is suspect.

Well before the CL series, Ford W's had other "cereal box" competitors- White 7000's, GMC crackerbox, White 1500's, White 6000's Flat steel, flat glass= low cost.

You have to admit though, one hell of a press release-no sugar coating whatsoever. Proud of their contributions in WW I and WW II. Continued sad state of affairs for America's manufacturing base. Talking to my son today and he mentioned that near his plant they just opened a new shopping mall. The usual tennants employing lower wage sales help, fry cooks etc while selling probably 90% imported goods-and mostly from China at that. One of his co-workers commented -" yeah, and all of the buildings that were knocked down to make room for this at one time manufactured goods". No doubt its a world economy, but we seem to always come out on the short end of the stick. My son by the way has an expensive technical education-hope he gets to finish his career without going backward.

Friends company is biting the bullet and getting rid of theirs at a huge loss. They can't afford the constant downtime.

June 28th

Nice-just out of curiosity, what is premium pricing for color "red" on a unit that size vs, "white"-which I assume is cheapest.