cruiseliner64 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Hi guys,heres a picture taken by my sister in Florida in 1982.The truck was in a dealers yard around the Orlando area.What make of truck it is I didnt know but clearly its not selling well because of the "make offer" sign on the windscreen.It has a Cummins Diesel as seen in the other windscreen.I have just found out its a Diamond Rio.Any of you most knowledgeable guys shed any more light on it??? Paul 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75033-diamond-in-the-not-so-rough/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mark T Posted January 20 Popular Post Share Posted January 20 That's a Diamond Reo Rogue. Around 1974/1975 some oil guy purchased the Diamond Reo brand from White. They had all sorts of ideas for new models. Like The Rogue, The Royale ( big highway cab over ) my favorite The Raider ( their fancy truck with a huge radiator ) along with the normal C114 (?) models . The Rogue was aimed at refuse collection and city delivery type applications. Sadly though, the company was bankrupt in under 2 years. 3 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75033-diamond-in-the-not-so-rough/#findComment-567066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 that thing is cool,,,it looks perfect for trash pickup,,ive never seen one,,thanks for that 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75033-diamond-in-the-not-so-rough/#findComment-567069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
67RModel Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Yes definitely a Diamond Reo Rogue 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75033-diamond-in-the-not-so-rough/#findComment-567070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseliner64 Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 (edited) I knew some of you would know!!! Iv had that picture since '82 and only last year found out it was a Diamond reo.Now I know its a Rogue.Clearly didnt sell well if the company went bankrupt.So did any survive? Paul Edited January 20 by cruiseliner64 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75033-diamond-in-the-not-so-rough/#findComment-567071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Cummings Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 On 1/20/2025 at 10:43 PM, Mark T said: That's a Diamond Reo Rogue. Around 1974/1975 some oil guy purchased the Diamond Reo brand from White. They had all sorts of ideas for new models. Like The Rogue, The Royale ( big highway cab over ) my favorite The Raider ( their fancy truck with a huge radiator ) along with the normal C114 (?) models . The Rogue was aimed at refuse collection and city delivery type applications. Sadly though, the company was bankrupt in under 2 years. Expand Loyal Osterlund and Ray Houseal bought Diamond Reo. They built trucks in Harrisburg Pa actually for quite a while as "Giant Trucks". I remember in the 80's JD Morrisey bought some with air cooled Deutz engines 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75033-diamond-in-the-not-so-rough/#findComment-567072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Cummings Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 On 1/20/2025 at 10:43 PM, Mark T said: Around 1974/1975 some oil guy purchased the Diamond Reo brand from White. Expand Oh yeah, I forgot about that guy in between white and osterlund. I think he was from down south 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75033-diamond-in-the-not-so-rough/#findComment-567073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 1/20/2025 at 11:39 PM, Joseph Cummings said: Oh yeah, I forgot about that guy in between white and osterlund. I think he was from down south Expand Carperet or something . He was some oil guy with lots of money. Osterlund got about another 20 years outta Diamond Reo (Giant) They were tough trucks. Seemed like years ago, guys with Diamond Ts or Diamond Reos had lots of pride in them. They were handsome trucks. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75033-diamond-in-the-not-so-rough/#findComment-567076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocky Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) I was thinking that the Raider and Royale were built by white in the early 70's before White sold DR to the oil man????? There was another construction company by the name of Kemp(??) that had a lot of the air cooled Deutz DR Giants. About 2018 - 2020 I saw one being used as a sign truck on the PA Pike. Then after Osterlund, who was in Carlisle PA, went out of business a group of his employees continued to build some trucks in Harrisburg PA under the name "T-Line" into the mid 20teens. Edited January 21 by Brocky 1 Quote Brocky Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75033-diamond-in-the-not-so-rough/#findComment-567078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseliner64 Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 Any pictures around of the rogue and the others? I thought Diamond Reo were gone before the Rogue and the Royale came out.Its a company I know little about... Paul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75033-diamond-in-the-not-so-rough/#findComment-567080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 1/20/2025 at 11:28 PM, Joseph Cummings said: Loyal Osterlund and Ray Houseal bought Diamond Reo. They built trucks in Harrisburg Pa actually for quite a while as "Giant Trucks". I remember in the 80's JD Morrisey bought some with air cooled Deutz engines Expand there were quite a few Deutz power "giant" barrel mixers here in Central Jersey back in the 80's tough trucks that were almost impossible to kill. Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75033-diamond-in-the-not-so-rough/#findComment-567081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Cummings Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 1/21/2025 at 12:36 AM, tjc transport said: there were quite a few Deutz power "giant" barrel mixers here in Central Jersey back in the 80's tough trucks that were almost impossible to kill. Expand Actually it was JDM. That was a division of James D Morrisey Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75033-diamond-in-the-not-so-rough/#findComment-567083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 1/21/2025 at 12:20 AM, Brocky said: I was thinking that the Raider and Royale were built by white in the early 70's before White sold DR to the oil man????? There was another construction company by the name of Kemp(??) that had a lot of the air cooled Deutz DR Giants. About 2018 - 2020 I saw one being used as a sign truck on the PA Pike. Then after Osterlund, who was in Carlisle PA, went out of business a group of his employees continued to build some trucks in Harrisburg PA under the name "T-Line" into the mid 20teens. Expand You're thinking of Hemp(t) Brothers. They had lots of Osterlund trucks . They were right there in the same area. Lots of those Osterlund Diamond Reos had L10s in them too. They were popular in all types of construction trucks. Mixers, dumps,block trucks. They were popular around here, and it's not out of the question to see some form of Diamond Reo still at work. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75033-diamond-in-the-not-so-rough/#findComment-567084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I'm pretty sure The Raider and Royale (& The Rogue) were between when White owned them and Osterlund took over. I know The Raider was only produced for seven months between '74 and '75. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75033-diamond-in-the-not-so-rough/#findComment-567086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 1/21/2025 at 12:26 AM, cruiseliner64 said: Any pictures around of the rogue and the others? I thought Diamond Reo were gone before the Rogue and the Royale came out.Its a company I know little about... Paul Expand There's an axle forward Raider (C119) 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75033-diamond-in-the-not-so-rough/#findComment-567087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GA_Dave Posted January 21 Popular Post Share Posted January 21 Interesting. Here is a shot of the 1978 Ward LaFrance Patriot I used to own. Note the shape of the cab face and the door window arrangement. 1 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75033-diamond-in-the-not-so-rough/#findComment-567088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Cummings Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 1/21/2025 at 1:12 AM, GA_Dave said: Interesting. Here is a shot of the 1978 Ward LaFrance Patriot I used to own. Note the shape of the cab face and the door window arrangement. Expand I wonder who built the cabs. Diamond Reo first used that R series IHC cab, and then the white cab. They never made their own Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75033-diamond-in-the-not-so-rough/#findComment-567089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
67RModel Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I have an original raider sales brochure. I’ll have to dig it out. Just based on observation the vast majority or Diamond Reo trucks I see that still exist are some type of vocational truck. Very few are tractors. I think they were marketed as a premium vocational truck. From what I can tell they were highly customizable and could be build to custom specs. I have even seen some 6x6 that were mixers. I’m not sure what White was thinking by buying Diamond T and REO then merging them into a premium vocational brand when they already had Autocar in that space. Too bad the folded. I always really liked the Diamond Reos from the late 60s to the 70s Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75033-diamond-in-the-not-so-rough/#findComment-567090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 1/21/2025 at 1:21 AM, Joseph Cummings said: I wonder who built the cabs. Diamond Reo first used that R series IHC cab, and then the white cab. They never made their own Expand Did Sheller Globe make them ? After White sold the division they were some form of the Autocar Drivers cab Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75033-diamond-in-the-not-so-rough/#findComment-567091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 1/21/2025 at 1:29 AM, 67RModel said: I have an original raider sales brochure. I’ll have to dig it out. Just based on observation the vast majority or Diamond Reo trucks I see that still exist are some type of vocational truck. Very few are tractors. I think they were marketed as a premium vocational truck. From what I can tell they were highly customizable and could be build to custom specs. I have even seen some 6x6 that were mixers. I’m not sure what White was thinking by buying Diamond T and REO then merging them into a premium vocational brand when they already had Autocar in that space. Too bad the folded. I always really liked the Diamond Reos from the late 60s to the 70s Expand They bought Reo for the engines. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75033-diamond-in-the-not-so-rough/#findComment-567092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
67RModel Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75033-diamond-in-the-not-so-rough/#findComment-567093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Cummings Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Nice set back axle Raider 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75033-diamond-in-the-not-so-rough/#findComment-567094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 They looked great with a dump body . Not to say they didn't look good in other applications. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75033-diamond-in-the-not-so-rough/#findComment-567095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Cummings Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 1/21/2025 at 1:36 AM, Mark T said: Did Sheller Globe make them ? After White sold the division they were some form of the Autocar Drivers cab Expand Not sure who did the stampings and assembled the cabs. But yeah they were the Drivers cab. I swapped parts between them. Franklin Smelting had an A Car dump that I put 2 cabs on. I kinda think one came off of a white or reo Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75033-diamond-in-the-not-so-rough/#findComment-567096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mark T Posted January 21 Popular Post Share Posted January 21 Been trying to snag this for several years 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75033-diamond-in-the-not-so-rough/#findComment-567097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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