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Bob, My thought's on what you said is this..   All of you old timers, and guys like me that have knowledge, have knowledge about Pre-Volvo Macks..  There are a lot of topics about MP engines and M-Drive tranny's and electronic's issues..  Most of us are Mechanical guys, and may get lost about the Volvo Infection that happened to MACK. I know I do, and I worked on these POS's for 5 years...  I am happy to lose all of the knowledge I have gained on MP's..  anyway.. I will stop here... I'm good at sidetracking...  :)  jojo

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