Joey Mack Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 sorry, but I just want to be clear.... youre pump has the filter on it, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLEDOG Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share Posted December 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, Joey Mack said: I think we are posting too many possible issues. The truck ran , then it ran bad, now it wont start, is that correct? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLEDOG Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share Posted December 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Joey Mack said: sorry, but I just want to be clear.... youre pump has the filter on it, right? Yes filter is on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 ok... now..... you opened the fuel lines at the head and bled off at least 2, right, like 'F' said, you pump the primer and pull on the line a little bit and bleed the air.. jojo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLEDOG Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share Posted December 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Joey Mack said: ok... now..... you opened the fuel lines at the head and bled off at least 2, right, like 'F' said, you pump the primer and pull on the line a little bit and bleed the air.. jojo I tried but I couldn’t break the line’s loose... I need to go back at it tomorrow with I propane torch and get them loosened up....we deal with rust here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 I know... I'm from Maine... road salt kills everything.. may I suggest you spray them now with PB Blaster, and let them soak over night... any good pen. oil will do, then tomorrow use a 3/4" wrench and work them back and forth, with care... the lines are about $150.00 ea. only need to bleed 2 of them... pick 2 easy ones. ie: 2+5..... jojo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLEDOG Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share Posted December 6, 2021 It’s pretty windy here right now and I really don’t want to lift the hood right now but I will do it first thing tomorrow morning..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 ok.. I will look for you tomorrow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLEDOG Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share Posted December 6, 2021 Ok thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DieselDog5.9 Posted December 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2021 I am going to add my 2 cents, just read all 4 pages, and live in the north, probably similar climate to Sledog, and spent multiple days last week getting machines started due to the cold. Put 2 new fuel filters on. When the fuel filters are off, pump the primer and verify fuel is flowing to the filter, and work systematicly through the lines verifying that fuel is getting to the fuel rail. For me when a truck runs then dies and it is cold out I suspect jelling. This time of year is more prone to jelling as summer fuel is in some of the bulk tanks still, and will gell at 30 degrees, It was 10 degrees here, sure Rochester is the same. Once gelled the wax doesn't go back to diesel without chemical treatment. Any low points in the line can accumulate water and freeze. Attatched is a photo from a skidsteer last week low point in the line collected water, primer would pump fuel through the line to the filter but put the line on and wouldn't pump a drop. Machine started then died, wouldn't start afterword. Use some diesel 911 in the tank. Red bottle. I will work on attaching photo, missing some technical skill for that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDog5.9 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Ice was totally blocking fuel line 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 yes sir..... I believe it is a fuel delivery issue, and you make good sense.. I hope he doesnt load the parts cannon and fire it, however,, he seems to be diagnosing instead... jojo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLEDOG Posted December 7, 2021 Author Share Posted December 7, 2021 I can try the red 911 no problem....definitely not into loading the parts cannon.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Yes you def seem to be very close to figuring this out. Being from PA I know what your dealing with in terms of every little thing being a JOB. There should be a North East flat rate time book…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 good call Onyx, Ive been in N.C. for 16 years, and I rarely ever need to pull out torches, and such, plus a million curse words.. I still anti-sieze every bolt that needs it... .. jojo 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLEDOG Posted December 7, 2021 Author Share Posted December 7, 2021 Yah this truck hauled road salt for a bunch of seasons too so the rust has really gotten to her.. usually end up cutting and grinding bolts just to get parts off all the time...O joy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 I know.... God bless you... jojo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 10 hours ago, SLEDOG said: Yah this truck hauled road salt for a bunch of seasons too so the rust has really gotten to her.. usually end up cutting and grinding bolts just to get parts off all the time...O joy! Pry a double frame too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLEDOG Posted December 7, 2021 Author Share Posted December 7, 2021 Ok guys I got it running....yah!!! Guess I should let it run awhile while I figure out what happened..... I had to pump it by hand to keep her running at first.....fuel pump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLEDOG Posted December 7, 2021 Author Share Posted December 7, 2021 I’m wondering now if I would have been ok if I would have pumped the primer when it stalled the first time.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 That’s great! Maybe check pressure with it running and see what you have? Maybe fuel drained back somewhere like at that valve in the block over the week that it sat and got air in there somehow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLEDOG Posted December 7, 2021 Author Share Posted December 7, 2021 22 hours ago, fjh said: There is a fuel galley plug just above where the blow by can bolts it can be accessed by removing the lid! 3 inch 1/4 pipe close nipple and an elbow! to screw a gauge into! Yah I’m going to see if I can figure out what tj was describing here and try to puta gauge in there so I don’t have to take the fuel temp sensor out again .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLEDOG Posted December 7, 2021 Author Share Posted December 7, 2021 20 hours ago, Joey Mack said: I know... I'm from Maine... road salt kills everything.. may I suggest you spray them now with PB Blaster, and let them soak over night... any good pen. oil will do, then tomorrow use a 3/4" wrench and work them back and forth, with care... the lines are about $150.00 ea. only need to bleed 2 of them... pick 2 easy ones. ie: 2+5..... jojo Thanks Joey..... I actually had to crack 4 lines....she just didn’t want to go on two.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx610 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 hour ago, SLEDOG said: Yah I’m going to see if I can figure out what tj was describing here and try to puta gauge in there so I don’t have to take the fuel temp sensor out again .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashshit1214 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Check the ecm relay during key on and while cranking Also oil pressure switch pull the plug if its oily inside the sealed plug its leaking from inside out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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