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[RowdyRebel]

[jaysm35a2]

What luck to get it on Vid!

[Olivetroad]

Why are we happy to see someone with that toy crash it?

[Mike]

Because he was being stupid.

And I thought that we like to see people with more money than brains mess up.

mike

[David]

Why are we happy to see someone with that toy crash it?

Because we're a bunch of sick bastards. It would have the icing on the cake if he had a PBO sticker on the back. Being Chicago, maybe it was Bill Ayers or Rev. Wright. Or Blogo before he reported to the big house.

[Mike]

Because we're a bunch of sick bastards. It would have the icing on the cake if he had a PBO sticker on the back. Being Chicago, maybe it was Bill Ayers or Rev. Wright. Or Blogo before he reported to the big house.

LOL, LOL, way to tell it like it is, David.

mike

[Olivetroad]

Because we're a bunch of sick bastards. It would have the icing on the cake if he had a PBO sticker on the back. Being Chicago, maybe it was Bill Ayers or Rev. Wright. Or Blogo before he reported to the big house.

I read yesterday where your main man Barry went to "church" at Rev. Wright's joint for 20 years. And we are supposed to believe that he did not drink the Kool Aid while he was there?

[gvam]

^{Maybe the driver was British and thought they were on the wrong side of the road}

[RowdyRebel]

When I was younger (still in high screwl), I used to aspire to own a Lamborghini some day. Then my grandma read in the newspaper about a car dealership a little ways away that had some "exotic" cars...one of which was a Diablo....and I musta been a good kid back then, because she took me out there to see it up close & in person. The salesmen were cool...even let me (15 at the time...learners permit in hand) sit behind the wheel of it on their showroom floor.

It was then that I realized I could never drive one....even if I won the lottery and had the money to buy one, I couldn't drive it. You see, my right foot covered up all 3 pedals at the same time. Neither leg could be fully extended, and it was worse with my left leg, which was further limited by the wheel well. It was a good thing the steering wheel was rather small, because it was wedged between my knees. The center console was high & in the way...had to tuck my elbow into my rib cage to get my hand on the shifter. Even with the door wide open, I felt like a sardine squished in that seat.

It was a $275,000 piece of crap this 15 year old child was already too big to fit inside. Damn...that was more than half my life ago...and I've only gotten bigger & less flexible since then. I don't know if I could even get into the seat anymore....such a tight squeeze back then and all.

Give me an old pickup truck any day...plenty of room to stretch out & be comfortable. Ugly as sin, but reliable as an old dog...and if anything major happens to it, it can be replaced for less than a month's savings.

[Olivetroad]

and if anything major happens to it, it can be replaced for less than a month's savings.

I am leaning more and more that direction the older I get. I don't think I will ever buy another new vehicle. I bought a new Dodge pickup in '04 and the wife a new van in '06 and while nice, I should have let someone else take the first depreciation hit. Funny how fast the new wears off and you once again are every week cleaning out the crayons, kids toys, and junk. I refuse to pay ever again that kind of money or have such a high long term loan for something that's clock is just ticking until it quits.

I have no statistics to back it up, but with the cost of cars today, they have to represent a lot higher percentage of a yearly income than they used to.

[randyp]

I wonder if he made that famous statement that I heard so many times as a young man fore that happened,,,,something like,,,"Hold my beer and watch this shit!" randyp

[RowdyRebel]

I was listening to Dave Ramsey the other day talking about how you shouldn't have more than 50% of your annual income tied up in your cars...meaning if you make $50,000/year and the value of all of your cars add up to more than $25,000, you've got too much of your income tied up in depreciating assets.

Makes a little bit of sense, but some of us "accumulate" vehicles and never really get rid of anything. I've got 3 pickup trucks...but then again, I've only spent $6K acquiring them, though.

I used to be OK with borrowing money....looking at what I made each month vs. what I would be making in payments each month. It's easy to get in over your head following that line of thought, but it's a pretty common thing with people these days. I came to my senses, though, and was trying to get my financial house in order by refinancing some things at lower interest rates and consolidating some loans where multiple loans had been taken for the same piece of collateral....essentially would have saved myself $400+ per month in payments if the banks would work with me....all to make it easier to get things paid off quicker and ease the pressure each month to come up with the "minimum" payments if money got tight during any economic downturns. My credit score was up in the mid-to-upper 700's at the time, so OBVIOUSLY I was able to make all of the payments I currently had. When the bank told me I couldn't afford to make the lower payments, I about lost it. I made up my mind right then & there that I was no longer going to worry about my credit score because if I ever borrowed another dime again, it'd be too soon. If they want to treat me like I can't afford to make the payments when it's clear I've been able to keep up with them, then I'm not going to lose a wink of sleep if money does get tight and I have to delay a payment here or there to make ends meet.

Besides, when your credit score is so bad that you can't get a credit card or open a new line of credit, an identity thief can't open one in your name either. Who needs lifelock (or other similar services) when you've got a double-digit credit score?

If I can't pay cash for something, I don't really need it. Might bring some interesting conflicts once the fiance gets up here...but I've had this conversation with her several times & pointed out that at one time, I was making over $26,000 per year payments on loans for stuff I already had. That's $26,000 that has to be earned every year before food can be bought, utilities can be paid for, or money can be saved. If all of those loans were paid off, that's $26,000 per year that could be put into a savings account. That's enough to pay CASH MONEY for a brand new full size pickup truck every 2 years or so. In 4 or 5 years, it's enough to PAY CASH for a house or a decent sized plot of land. Why take out a 30 year note for something you can have free & clear with 4 or 5 years worth of saving? Of course you've got to be disciplined not to spend that money on other things during that time....that's the hard part....but shouldn't be impossible.

[randyp]

I am leaning more and more that direction the older I get. I don't think I will ever buy another new vehicle. I bought a new Dodge pickup in '04 and the wife a new van in '06 and while nice, I should have let someone else take the first depreciation hit. Funny how fast the new wears off and you once again are every week cleaning out the crayons, kids toys, and junk. I refuse to pay ever again that kind of money or have such a high long term loan for something that's clock is just ticking until it quits.

I have no statistics to back it up, but with the cost of cars today, they have to represent a lot higher percentage of a yearly income than they used to.

I agree Olive. Wish I had summa that money back i spent on cars as a younger dummer man. It is true, as we age, we get wiser,,,,randyp

[RowdyRebel]

...besides, who would want a new car? New cars have air bags, and air bags kill people.

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/05/29/driver-dies-after-breathing-in-airbag-fumes/?intcmp=obnetwork

[ThaddeusW]

When I was younger (still in high screwl), I used to aspire to own a Lamborghini some day. Then my grandma read in the newspaper about a car dealership a little ways away that had some "exotic" cars...one of which was a Diablo....and I musta been a good kid back then, because she took me out there to see it up close & in person. The salesmen were cool...even let me (15 at the time...learners permit in hand) sit behind the wheel of it on their showroom floor.

It was then that I realized I could never drive one....even if I won the lottery and had the money to buy one, I couldn't drive it. You see, my right foot covered up all 3 pedals at the same time. Neither leg could be fully extended, and it was worse with my left leg, which was further limited by the wheel well. It was a good thing the steering wheel was rather small, because it was wedged between my knees. The center console was high & in the way...had to tuck my elbow into my rib cage to get my hand on the shifter. Even with the door wide open, I felt like a sardine squished in that seat.

It was a $275,000 piece of crap this 15 year old child was already too big to fit inside. Damn...that was more than half my life ago...and I've only gotten bigger & less flexible since then. I don't know if I could even get into the seat anymore....such a tight squeeze back then and all.

Give me an old pickup truck any day...plenty of room to stretch out & be comfortable. Ugly as sin, but reliable as an old dog...and if anything major happens to it, it can be replaced for less than a month's savings.

Those cars are made for midgets.

My brother knew a kid in college that came from a rich Norwegian shipping family and who also made a few million bucks with some kind of video game thing he did. He owned a Lamborghini, the Dodge Ram with the viper engine (with a $20k sound system) and a Dodge viper. He was willing to let my brother drive it around the complex where he lived but my brother being 6'4" had trouble just getting into the car. Once in the seat he couldn't press the pedals without his knees getting hung up on the dash board. He didn't go anywhere and jut got out.