1961H67

I dug through an old LJT manual this morning,, you’re probably correct, it talks of a relay valve but no picture. I have been the only one working/ using this truck for 45 years, and I never remember taking a line off, ( were the plug is ) the bottom line comes from a check valve that connects to the foot pedal and goes to front brakes , there is a tee off it before it gets to this valve the goes to service side of the tractor protection valve. ( top full air ) Relay valve in that location makes sense,, but it serves no purpose without another line??? I’ll keep looking for a better diagram . Thanks for all the advice! Hopefully someone can rattle my memory.

That is definitely a HEAVY Haul! I would hate to see that haul bill!

I have been hooking up all my air lines, most of the copper was good, replaced some with plastic. I put 110 shop air on the system, I got all the leaks pretty much stopped, remember it’s not been used in 30 years. I have 1 issue,, when I press foot brake or pull hand valve I have a bad leak from the bottom ( exhaust) of this valve on cross member in front of 5th wheel, my 2 parts LJs doesn't have it . The top line comes from the 2nd air tank ( pressure all the time) the other tees off line from foot valve to brakes ( delivery) . I’m not sure what it’s purpose is especially with constant air pressure hooked up. Any suggestions?

A few more “Non-Mack” we use besides the Western Star, they come and go especially dump trucks, The Autocar has made it a year. I’ve had the 81 Peterbilt 359 for 25 years, got it from a friend of mine that ran it to California weekly, it had a 400 Cummins, I got it with no engine, I put a 8v71 Detroit in it , My son put a 3406B in it a few years ago.I just recently repainted it. We sold the 99 379 Peterbilt ( C16 18 speed ) we restored it also. The General, and COE KW ,both had 8V92s . They’re also gone.

A few more old tractors we have collected, over the years. Back when my Dad was living and my Son was a teenager we went to a tractor pull every weekend in the summer, we only go about 2 times a year now, I mainly kept some smaller antique pullers in case my grandson (8) wants to later on .1943 Farmall , the picture is the same tractor, same spot, my son at 6 and my grandson at 7 , 26 years apart. 1938 Oliver , 1952 Ferguson 30 , picture of my Son & Grandson. All these old tractors have lots of memories, We restored all of them, a family hobby.

Yes it’s a repower , it has a quadraplex in it , I have never run the vin to find out what engine it originally had. Probably get interested if I bought it, I’ve been working on him for 5 years to sell it . He says he really doesn’t want to sell it right now,,, and I’ll have to live to 120 to finish what I already have,, so he’s probably doing me a favor.

I Never knew about the 1 cylinder! Thanks for the info! Back in the day they would put Detroits in anything, The fellow that had my LTH was a big Terex fan, his nephew said in the 60s he repowerd every truck he used in Alaska with a Detroit. A friend of mine has a B 81 with a 6-71 in it ( I’m trying to trade him out of it) . This was our “Hot” Super 99 GM pulling tractor, We kept it looking rough, but it was hard to beat.

That looks about the same as what my Dad got for our H Model about 20 years ago, that will look great, I’ll check them out, I also found some at Restoration Specialty, I’ll do some measuring, Thanks again!

Lol , i think that Massey Ferguson transformed into a Detroit page,,, there’s been a lot of good comments and history from it over the weekend.

Just think how versatile that 2 cycle Detroit is , 2, 3 , 4 ,6 , 8 , 12 , 16 cylinder,, heck they may have made more combinations I haven’t heard about, they bolted them together, run backwards in a boat , we have a Taylor forklift with one in it . But like everyone else,, I couldn’t imagine setting on a 98 Massey or an Oliver GM for 8 hours in a hard pull with that exhaust 4 feet away! The 98 has a factory muffler and it’s loud! The 99 Oliver pulling tractor I had was a 5 inch straight, marine injectors, changed the blower gears to spin it faster, it was a beast,, but my goodness it was deafening!

Thanks for the floor mat tips, I’ll call around this week. Had a few hours over the weekend to hook up the exhaust, hopefully I can put the driveshaft in this week and at least pull it out of the shop and run it some .

Thanks for the Chamberlain video. The Detroit 2 stroke was used in a lot of stuff when you start researching. Our LTH Mack had a 8V-71 put installed because it was used in Alaska and it was better in cold weather. I even think some WWII tanks had Detroit engines. By the way, I mentioned a John Deere we have, a 435 with a Detroit, all there, runs , needs painted $4,000 if anyone interested, I’m spent on time , I would rather see someone enjoy it, they are rare also, not sure how many were made.

Now that’s classic! Great picture.

Lol , that’s kinda his motto. He would play baseball in them if we would let him!

According to what I was told ,, sometime around 1958 there was a fire at the Massey Ferguson plant,( I had all the dates and locations but I would have to dig it out. ) So Ferguson got Oliver power trains using a Super 99 GM , I had 1958 Super 99 ; same tractor. They put Massey Ferguson sheet metal on them, they did about 500 like that, there is green paint underneath the flint gray on the frame and axles . They did some 97s also, it used Moline power train . I have a 430 John Deere with a 2 cly Detroit,,, for sale.

Probably can’t tell much about that picture, it’s a Sunday paper advertisement from the early 50s at the dealership my Grandfather worked. Harry Ferguson started Ferguson tractor in about 1948 , I have a 1946 2N Ford with the Ferguson System logo under the Ford on the hood. Harry Ferguson invented the 3 Point hitch.

We had an Oliver 99 GM pulling tractor, we sold it a couple years ago. They are fun to play with, not much work anymore.

We’ve had Ferguson tractors as long as we have Mack’s , my grandfather worked for the local Ferguson dealer in the 50s , he bought a used 48 TE20 when he worked there, we still have it , there are pictures of 6 generations with that same tractor, we’ve had probably 20 over the years, sold a few, the 98 is my favorite only about 500 made. We tried to get them all together a few years ago and take a picture ( all day of putting fresh gas and swapping batteries)

Thanks for the compliments , I’ve absolutely never been bored hauling equipment, I’ve Picked up something in the morning near the Biltmore House in Asheville, NC and delivered it near the USS North Carolina in Wilmington, NC in the evening . I’m retired, so if I see something interesting along the way I can check it out. I’ve put around 400,000 miles on it . It’s been a great truck, unfortunately like all many 5EK Cats, it broke a crank a couple years ago, replaced it and kept on going. A few more pictures. It was even in compliance with MASKS during Coronavirus! , Getting inspected by the Georgia DMV ( the Trooper told me it only reason he pulled me in was he liked “ Old Western Stars )

The color of the dash is original ( taken from the glove box lid under the Cummins engine warning plate) it’s light brown, lighting probably bad . Thanks for all the tips on flooring, I’ll check it out.

We have 3 working Superliners , and 1 Western Star. Thought I would post a few pictures of some places I have hauled equipment with it in the past few years, Mostly in North Carolina, From the Bottom of Fontana Dam , Linn Cove Viaduct, Appalachian Trail, Blue Ridge Parkway, Literally from Murphy NC to Manto NC , and every city in the state. and many more interesting places . It’s been very interesting.

By the way, does anyone have an idea or a source for floor mat material? Something that looks like the firewall mat. I have looked a little online and checked hardware stores, haven’t found anything yet. I was going to use the sound deading / insulation in the floor and lay cut a rubber or vinyl mat over it. My Dad found some stuff I used in our H67 when I redid it about 20 years ago but I have no clue where he got it , it’s still in good shape. I haven’t really looked at trying to adapt a mat for another truck yet, just trying too get ideas, Thanks

Got the defrost hoses in , while I still had room to lay down. Almost got all the wiring completed, Turn signal switch and brake lights is about all I have left inside the cab .

I’m with you on standing on my head under the dash, I’m definitely not as limber as I was when I started this project. I ordered some 1 3/4 defrost hose for the LJ from “ Old Air “ looks close to that. I haven’t had time to install it yet, probably need to soon before I put my seats in ( that will give more grunting and twisting room for me! ) You’re making good progress. Thanks for the update and pics.