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We had a B Model dump, tandem, I might be able to get the guy to take some pictures of the rear suspension, I’ll send you some on the LJ I have, they hauled houses with it , it’s got the heaviest suspension I have ever seen on a early 50s on road truck.

I know it’s off topic,,, but I passed a Chevy Dealership in Melbourne FL about 30 minutes ago,,, And I couldn’t resist! There is a Quarter Million $ ! Back on this Superliner ,, That thing is Definitely detailed. The price to get that truck to that level would be astronomical! I had a lot of paint and supplies get washed down the creek and it hurt as much as the tools did.

I don’t have a B but I have a tandem 50 LJ with double frame and camel back if that would help

Yes,, They have gone crazy especially the Chargers, Road Runners, and the “ Winged “ Cars . I’ve seen some big trucks getting up there,, it cost much more to restore a old Mack any more,, You would have to ask way more than it was new to get your money back.

Yep and like my friend with a Superbird and some I have talked to with some really nice trucks, They have been fortunate enough to have worked hard and built a good business,, I’m glad they are able to buy some of these really nice trucks,, The Keystone museum in Virginia is a good example,, Now everyone can enjoy them.

That is a Beautiful Truck!,, I know a guy that gave the same price for a 1970 Winged Plymouth Super Bird,,, Both equally beautiful.

Yes!!! We would love to see an article and photos in the Wheels of Time!!

Yes that would be great, I’ll get it for you after while I don’t have it with me, Also I’ll get you the Vin from my RW 753 Superliner and the parts truck I got the 18,000 steering axle from, I’m wondering the difference in the draglunk joint that connects the steering lever . Yes i see a Couple Superliner dumps working on I40 in the gorge, also my Son uses a Whte one with a green strip on I40 also ,, Thank you, I’ll get those VINs

Thanks Vlad , You’re probably correct on that firewall paint, there is places pealing of the visor much darker under the light grey. I’m not sure what I’ll do about the frame right now. Hopefully by the time I get it painted I’ll find something out about the Decal .

I figure that maybe why the levers are flipped , it had more springs than mine and they dropped the joint from the top to keep the drag link level, I’ve ran into the bump steer problem lifting some 4x4 pickups . Thank You for the help.

Yes I can get the VIN off the parts truck, I’m sure I can make it work, it’s the same as hot roding a car back in the day, Change one high performance part and have to change 3 more to make it work . I appreciate all the help, I will probably do the same thing to my Freedom Superliner once I figure this one out, it has a 12,000 lbs axle with a little play in the king pins, But mainly because I have some hub pilot floaters to put on it, I know it will not have a original look, but I love the way they handle, Around these mountains they are great, and will last twice as long as a regular steer tire , I put them on every thing I can. Even my old Volvo and Western Star

Thank you, yes that is the arm that is turned opposite of my original axle.

I had thought about that also,, if the key way will lineup,, it’s going to be a few days before I can get on it, My Grandson’s Baseball season is over and I promised him we would get away for a few days,,, but I’ll keep taking ideas!

Hopefully I won’t have to change anything , just turn the drag link joint over

They are,,,when I get a chance I’ll try to get one out and see if they can be swapped, I should have gotten the complete pitman arm and drag link off the parts truck,, it’s 4 hours away, I can get them to measure it if needed.

I think the ones off my axle are smaller, it might be ok to loosen the joint and turn it down, you are probably right and it set a little higher between the frame and the axle, the parts truck still has the dual boxes on it ,but I didn’t remove the axle, and the springs were already gone. I’m just going to use one steering box .

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Back to the RE 753 Axle project, I found a 18,000 out of a 89 Superliner, dual steering like my 14,000 axle. It’s got hub pilots in it ,just what I wanted, One glitch, The steering arms are upside down from mine, ( opposite taper ) . So the drag link joint will have to go down, Anyone see this, the truck it came from already had the springs removed, it was probably a big stack since it had the big axle.

Thank You it’s a fairly sound truck except for the frame, It’s got good A/C , there’s a few of the gauges that doesn’t work . As for the Aluminum frame,, it’s trash, that’s why the previous owners actually had a frame made and put it on the outside, very time consuming, every bolt and bracket was redrilled .Its not going to fail,,, but I just know all that corroded Aluminum is under there, and it looks terrible. The aluminum slides inside the steel frame about 16 in , behind the engine/ transmission mounts , with 4 bolts each side. It really won’t be that bad of a job, take a steel frame and slide it in and bolt it, I could have changed it quicker than removing everything and repairing it the way they did. I’ll keep my eye out for a good air ride cut off, I’ll take some pictures. It’s not noticeable just walking around the truck,,, But I know it’s there.

I try to keep him interested in these Trucks,, I’ll need to hurry because I’m getting older and in a few years the Girls will get his attention!

Yes, he has done some interesting research on them. This maybe an interesting story about a Freedom if anyone has a clue. Back around 1988-1990 , a friend of mine that I worked with at Ryder went to visit some family in West Virginia, he knew I had a LJ , he stopped and took a picture of a LJ , I think it was a Burns Motor Freight in Marlinton WV , He also took a picture of a New Mack , I taped the pictures to my toolbox and never realized the “ New “ Mack until years later was a Freedom,, I wonder where it is now?.

Thank you for the information, Unfortunately as for the interior of the Freedom is the best part of it , The worst part is the frame, it’s aluminum, the guys we bought it from installed a plate on the outside, and did a good job, but it’s corroded at every cross member, my thought would be unbolt it under the cab , only 4 bolts on each side attach it to the big steel frame , find a air ride cut off and start changing all the brackets, but I’ve been using it this way so that’s later down the road. I may replace the hood, my number one goal is to paint it back the original grey and red stripes, it’s still the original color on the fire wall . The E6 350 runs great, 10 speed trans . It has some slack in the front spring shackles but overall it’s still pretty sound .I saw a old post were one was hit in the front but I don’t think this is the same truck, I guess it was repainted when the hood was replaced, I bought this one in Gallipolis OH . I’ve had my Helper working on it some today.

I would like to thank everyone for the support and comments during the restoration of my Coca Cola LJ , it’s pretty much done except for maybe some rear fenders,, My goal at 66; years old was to relax for a bit, finish repairs on my shop from the flood damage and enjoy some truck and car shows. But with the encouragement of my 10 year old Grandson ( And some friends that know what a Freedom Mack is) I’m going to try to restore Our 87 Freedom. Probably not to the extent that I did the LJ , but hopefully it will make a nice truck to pull a lowboy if I want to haul the LJ ,LTH or C Model to a show. I actually bought this truck about 10 years ago to use, not really knowing what a Freedom was. And I have used it, I’ve had it to every Dam in Western North Carolina on the TVA system, I bought it because I needed a day cab for the rough places. I have talked to a couple people who have Freedoms , I have read some old posts on here about them, If anyone has any information I would appreciate it, I would love to know how many are left. This truck has had the hood replaced with a aftermarket hood and repainted a lighter grey ,my goal is to get it back to the original color and decals. thanks again for all the support.

Yes,, then Matt will have to hire my Grandson to narrate those 1000 pictures ,, he’s got the album down pretty good , That’s his job at the shows .

Brocky , you have been reading my mind, I have a Holmes 5th wheel lift, I don’t use it anymore and I was thinking about putting it on . It would actually help it to ride a little better also , It needs painting, I’m going to do some measuring.