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Dodge Truck built and sold a lot of C-800 single axle dumps and tractors with the 413's for power. There were a lot of C-800 plow trucks around the Detroit area.

Kscarbal you gave a great reply to that person. I feel that most everyone on BMT supports you for what you do share Mack history with us and you must use a lot of your free time to do it.

Somebody out there is going to take a F-750 with this engine, add a lift axle and make a very low cost tandem dump for seasonal use.

One Bid? Was Navistar the only one asked to bid? Or was it written so only they could meet the specifications? There is more to this.

Roadway I think the real medium-duty market now is 19,500 - 26,000 GVW, non CDL. Ford seems to have that covered, what do you think?

I happen to own a Cat machine that meets Tier 4. There is a market for Cat truck engines, Cat has deeper pockets than Cummins, Daimler or Volvo. Volvo puts the same junk in there equipment as they do there trucks. Cat dealer truck engine people I talk to think Cat could make C15 meet Tier 4 in a truck.

There is a market out there for new Cat truck engines. I can say this what I see at the Cat dealer I use (Michigan Cat) the truck side works on Cat truck engines, Cat truck engine owners want new trucks with new Cat engines. They do not want gut less X15 and DD15 engines. Owners of 15-20+ year old trucks with Cat engines keep fixing them. There are just less trucks out there with Cat engines in them, the trucks are wearing out.

I would guess every Ford dealer can and wants to sell all Ford trucks up to F-550. 500 Ford dealers can sell F-650 and F-750, I take that to mean they can do air brakes. 400 more dealers for F-650-750 in 4 years is a lot, Ford sees Chevy in the rear view mirror and put the foot to the floor. If I was Navistar I would worry about Ford. Ford put money in to the F-Max in Europe, why not a bigger better F- Series here? They seem to have the dealers that want to sell them. I would bet that the larger and older Ford Truck dealers are asking Dearborn about ISB and Allison. I still think that an Avon Lake built F-650 based Cargo would sell. Ford may never build a F-850 or FT-850, but who knows.

Ford has 500 dealers selling the F-650 up from 100 in 2015, Ford is doing something right. 500 dealers selling medium-duty trucks is why sales are up. They are going to want more and better trucks to sell. In 1997 Ford had the Cargo, some L- series, maybe B-series and larger F-series lineup to sell in medium-duty. Avon Lake built Cargo and bigger F medium-duty cab could make Ford the leader. I wonder what Ford is thinking?

Kscarbel I do agree with you that the US cannot be the policeman of the world and I sure hope that the Saudi's are footing some (should be most) of the cost.

There are mature adults running Iran?

Like it or not Iran is heading for a ass kicking. As for if we can afford it, may be we can get some of the cash POS Obama gave them back. Take care of this now, or wait for a dark cloud to happen over here some day, I do not think we can afford that.

I think you could be right on the 80-d, I have never seen one, but photos only.

Northwest Model 6 or could be a Model 81.

Kscarbel I think you are right about non-CDL status for the F-750.

I have seen a lot of 2019 F-650's this year so far. Most belong to contractor's or landscapers. Took a F-650 gas 5 yard dump loaded for a spin, very quiet, drives great and very good brakes. Ford must be doing something right. The people that I know that have new Ford trucks this year like them and will buy more.

I have said this before there are a lot of Mack's (505) in Michigan at 154,000 GVW. See them everyday and a lot of them. What I think would help Mack is a Granite with a Cat C15. Construction people here want Cat engines. Volvo will never do it, but if Cat would get back in truck engines it would sell big in a Mack. There are a lot CL753 and even RW753 still running here.

Kscarbel could that be a Bronco two door short box pickup? They might be on to something, just like the first Bronco.

The Super Brigadier with the old White cab looks like the last Autocar built by White - Volvo. At least the hood does.

Red Horse you are right. Front discharge mixers are the only way to pour concrete today with the cost of labor and how much more safe they are. You can not beat them for off road pours.

Kscarbel it seems the T-234 may have been the first heavy duty Dodge truck. The front end does look like the post-war Power Wagon. By the way, built at the Warren Truck Plant, a lot trucks that were a big part of history built there.

Kscarbel did Dodge at that time build a 2-3 ton civilian model truck?

Roadway a contractor I worked for in 1994 rented a General SBA tractor for a month from Ryder to haul concrete pipe. They gave us the oldest (wore out) truck they had in the area, because we were going to use it to go off road to unload. We learned a lot about why highway spec. tractor's are no good in off road use. It ran fine on the road, but off road, use less. We ended up hauling the pipe trailer from the road with a old 1965 DM-800, it got the job done.

Lee Iacocca by himself saved Chrysler. But I wonder where Ford would be today if he had run Ford till the 1990's. Ford might be the largest automaker. I think Ford would still be building class 8 trucks at KTP that is for sure. Iacocca would not give up or sell off and would have had people in place to build better and sell more. Ford would have been in better shape. Henry Ford II was wrong to have let him go.

Like him or not, he knew how to get things done.