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	No Bob, as I see it "God Help them". the Mack workers IMO are drinking Fain's Kool-Aid. He could give a shit about Mack, it is all about the the dues payers at the "big three". The Mack UAW leadership negotiated a contract in good faith and they reached an agreement subject to ratification. You can bet that Fain had to sign off on that deal. Then when the member ship votes it down by a big margin-my bet too many see the crazy numbers that are coming out of the big three negotiations, they want the same thing.....and in a situation like this where the membership votes a contract down, the smart union leadership would say.."we did our best but will go back to the table again. Fain throws out the tough guy bullshit-like he didn't have any say in the initial settlement deal. Like I said, he could care less about Mack and what happens to it. IMO they are forgetting what has typically happened in the truck business. Look at history...Mack buys Brockway..Brockway goes on strike..Mack solves that problem. White buys the old Sterling...then says "hey, Sterling competes with our Autocar flag!-bang Sterling is gone. White owns the combined Diamond T and Reo then shuts that down. White is going broke and WhiteGMC is formed- and that is gone. Consolidation is the name of the game. I'm sure there are top level guys in Sweden now who are saying, why do we need this bullshit? Hope it doesn't happen but the old Mack customers who built their business with Mack trucks are old...and guess what... "Built like a Mack" no longer counts.
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	  '62 B-81SXRed Horse replied to Red Horse's topic in Antique and Classic Mack Trucks General Discussion DC, Thx-He sent me a pix of his pump..tags are different than yours. I double checked mine which was a 237 Factory remain that guys I bought truck from had the good luck to pull from a wreck and it had only 10,000 miles. I tried checking my nos today but I'll have to pull the quarter fender off to see it. My memory says that is where my engine tag is on pump. the drive case has some numbers punched onto it but I thin k they are a part number- I'll have to put some brake cleaner on to get a good read. Unrelated question...anyone know how you determine an engine build date?
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	  '62 B-81SXRed Horse replied to Red Horse's topic in Antique and Classic Mack Trucks General Discussion Pump by the way is an American Bosch
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	  '62 B-81SXRed Horse replied to Red Horse's topic in Antique and Classic Mack Trucks General Discussion No other number guys ....Door plate says B-81SX
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	Buddy just bought a mint 62 B-81SX. Non turbo. What HP would that be?
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	Nice Rich..when did nyou get binder with aluminum wheels
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	  B-73 RestorationRed Horse replied to mattb73lt's topic in Antique and Classic Mack Trucks General Discussion Your comment is timely Paul. Having a conversation with my youngest and his wife this morning on this subject. Her grandfathers were unique, one US Army, WW II and Korea, and the other flew in the Luftwaffe. He and my daughter in laws dad came to US in 1956. Talk about that family's reunions! Neither of the grandfathers were willing conversationalists when it came their experiences. I also had good friends I worked with who were in Vietnam-including two West Point grads. One got a Purple Heart as a dump truck hit a mine when they were building a road...he got the PH as he had ear damage-he would talk a lot.. The other was a Ranger who saw all kinds of stuff...not so much. A lot of them also were supply types who had steak and beer very often. Before you get into conversations with these guys you should know their feelings on this. Bob
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	  B-73 RestorationRed Horse replied to mattb73lt's topic in Antique and Classic Mack Trucks General Discussion For sure on "nothing amateur"...when you get tired of your "day job" Matt, you should think of going into the restoration business! Where did you get the oak?
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	  B-73 RestorationRed Horse replied to mattb73lt's topic in Antique and Classic Mack Trucks General Discussion For sure, The last of my WW II veteran uncles passed away and I start thinking of all the things I did NOT ask them about
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	No - Broncos and the B were on pretty solid ground. I was home at like 6:30 and before I put B away had a short cloud burst. But I heard this morning that while I had a quick cloud burst, down on the Fair Grounds-like mile and a half away it rained so hard there was water running down road by pole barns. Lucky that didn't happen when most guys were leaving By the way you and Rick continue to get good press..Boston Trucker has you in video.
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	Guys I have a 22 F-150, STX with a 5.0. and 3.31 gears. When I bought it I ignored fact it did not have an E locker dif and figured it would not be a problem, Well it is helpless on wet grass! So I bought it to replace my old Ranger which someone wanted for a good price and the 150 was a "placeholder" until I felt the new Rangers had their bugs worked out. Long story short I'm beginning to like that Coyote power so I'm thinking of getting a 23 with same specs other than rear axle. Not many 23 5.0's out there in STX trim and most elockers are 3.31.s There are a few 3.73's as well so while the 3.31 is great when you are on an intersate, It is not the best for pulling my skid steer trailer and 4720 Deere Anyone have any experience with a 5.0 powered 150 with either ratio? I thinking the 3.73 would upshift quicker thereby running more miles with the higher ratio. Any opinions? Bob
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	  B-73 RestorationRed Horse replied to mattb73lt's topic in Antique and Classic Mack Trucks General Discussion Matt...priorities! Unfortunatley at times earning a living wins out😎
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	  B-73 RestorationRed Horse replied to mattb73lt's topic in Antique and Classic Mack Trucks General Discussion Bay State Chapter ATCA..RT 117, Lancaster.. five minutes west on 117 at 495 Bolton exit. Sat and Sunday hr and 45 from Watertown.
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	  B-73 RestorationRed Horse replied to mattb73lt's topic in Antique and Classic Mack Trucks General Discussion The late Phil Noonan. Fruehauf salesman who bought the Wallingford branch..great guy! You going to make your show debut tomorrow? Hope to see you there..it will draw a crowd with or without a body😎
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	This reminds me of a Ford commercial "back in the day. It was a picture of a trailer with all the logos of the big carriers who were running Fords. If my memory serves me right ABF may be the only one in that group still alive.
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	Hippy..assume he was Overnite founder?
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	  B-73 RestorationRed Horse replied to mattb73lt's topic in Antique and Classic Mack Trucks General Discussion Ancient history is part of the fun IMO..in particular when the truck is not too removed from the original owner(s).
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	  B-73 RestorationRed Horse replied to mattb73lt's topic in Antique and Classic Mack Trucks General Discussion Matt, I know way back you mentioned how you did the frame. too lazy to search. The outer are new rails and there is a Louisville liner?
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	66dc75 on left, OD on right and in the middle??? And Jim Hancock in another shot with OD...now if we could get him to respond Sorry I missed it..last year too-memorial service for my wife that weekend and this weekend getting ready for counter tops that the wife had been talking about for a year😔..Getting installed Wed. on old cabinets that I made 22 years ago using 50+ year old southern pine that I had salvaged from old cottage we had that I knocked down ..wish me luck..keep the pix coming OD! Safe trip home guys. Bob
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	  B-73 RestorationRed Horse replied to mattb73lt's topic in Antique and Classic Mack Trucks General Discussion Matt, If not Macungie, Brooklyn?
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	OD, If your critters are anything like the ones around here I've had to get the wire hoops to lock the fence down as they quickly figure out how to get underneath.
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	  So this is new on marketplace, whatever you want to call it.Red Horse replied to Hans Remmers's topic in Other Truck Makes Good word for it! But forgive me..to each his own😎
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	In my "youth"-ugh 60 years ago😟- VoTech schools were pretty much trade high schools-they taught the basic trade specialties- automotive, electrical etc. Today it seems they no longer just focus on a trade as a final objective but give the kids a pathway if they want to go on to a two or four year degree program. In any case, I think more and more there is an awareness that a technical/trade education is a far more useful way for kids to spend their time than going to school and pursuing some 'liberal arts" education.
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	Bullheaded...A good topic but as I see it, unfortunately driven by what some think of as the pure economics..between "autos are cheaper in long run vs clutches, u joints etc" and "I can't find experienced drivers to run my business". But like so many here, how did we start? Not at the top for sure. In my case, I had an uncle that was a mason contractor. He had an F-5 Ford dump-flathead and a non synchro 4 spd. I'm a 16 year old kid. His lesson in "double clutching" was a two minute speech beside the truck! Two years later I'm off to college and my summer job was working for a contractor as a "driver/laborer/operator"-345 V8 Binder 5 and 2.- I drove it like it was a 10 speed. After college I start my "career" and when I became a terminal manager, I remember guys coming in applying for driving jobs..just out of driving school with a class 1 license. My advice to them was always ..."do yourself a favor, get a job driving a straight truck.. get comfortable with a non synchro trans and get a feel for the road..do this before you start worrying about where the trailer was". Today? As many have already stated..."have a license? " case closed. and to compound the problem in Mass when a guy tests today for a license if road test is on an auto the license issued has an "auto only" restriction. I imagine that is the case in a lot of states. But if you think our world has a problem, look at the airlines! The military was the feeder for pilots. Today not the case-United I believe is about to start their own "training program". Now THAT is scary.
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	Rich, Missed this until tonight- is that at Luccini yard? Like the grill/shutters on yours better!
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