fjh Posted Friday at 01:51 AM Share Posted Friday at 01:51 AM 46 minutes ago, mowerman said: Joey, I think we stepped all over this guy’s tread Yup! 🤔 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76205-differences-pioneer-and-anthem/page/2/#findComment-586591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBWhite Posted Friday at 03:35 AM Share Posted Friday at 03:35 AM 2 hours ago, Geoff Weeks said: Handy, yes, but it grows old quick, working out of a truck! BTDT. No one brings parts out to you, you have to go fetch, there are plenty of things "back at the shop" that you know you have but not with you at the moment. No matter how hard you try to think of everything you might need, there is always more that you don't have. Still there is alot you can accomplish with a mobile repair truck. I kept a little Honda trail 70 in the back of my pickup for that very reason, parts fetching that is. I must have carried over 1000lbs of small odds and ends back and forth from the field to the shop. Pick it up and throw it in the back when done. And sorry again for highjacking the thread lol. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76205-differences-pioneer-and-anthem/page/2/#findComment-586593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted Friday at 03:47 PM Author Share Posted Friday at 03:47 PM Maybe I should start a new thread? 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76205-differences-pioneer-and-anthem/page/2/#findComment-586599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted Friday at 04:40 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:40 PM lol but i did think i answered your question,,,bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76205-differences-pioneer-and-anthem/page/2/#findComment-586601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted Friday at 04:42 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:42 PM i used to see quite a few anthams around here ,,,more and more they were popping up around here,,,but since i retired last september,,,,i hardly ever leave the house..bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76205-differences-pioneer-and-anthem/page/2/#findComment-586602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Heinz Posted Friday at 06:45 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:45 PM The Pioneer seems more oriented as an OTR type truck, and the Anthem is seemingly a bridge between that and say a Pinnacle. Still, we've seen a couple day cab Pioneers that were ordered in, so I feel like there's an overlap of the two models. I think one difference would be technology, as the Pioneers have the option for the digital mirrors among other stuff. There's probably some other details like tuning and such, but for the most part they seem almost interchangeable. I will also let everyone know that the new air systems are going to be wonderful to deal with, because they thought that brass fittings were so last year and went to plastic style that requires a tool to unplug. Add on a super complicated air dryer system that has a computer module JUST for it and BOOM; already had several brand new trucks have issues. Don't get me started on the also complicated 24v battery system! 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76205-differences-pioneer-and-anthem/page/2/#findComment-586606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted Friday at 07:21 PM Share Posted Friday at 07:21 PM lol well I guess manufacturers are never going to quit reaching for the stars Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76205-differences-pioneer-and-anthem/page/2/#findComment-586610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted Saturday at 03:51 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 03:51 PM Refinement-refinement-refinement is the tried and true method for quality products and get the bugs out prior to mass production. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76205-differences-pioneer-and-anthem/page/2/#findComment-586686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted Saturday at 11:01 PM Share Posted Saturday at 11:01 PM They ll never be as great as an R or RD was in construction. Or a Hendrickson 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76205-differences-pioneer-and-anthem/page/2/#findComment-586706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted yesterday at 03:39 AM Share Posted yesterday at 03:39 AM Ya bud I think that maxed out with all the 1966 models … well they had a good run for many years I wish them the best… especially the old timers that are still with the firm …. Bob Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76205-differences-pioneer-and-anthem/page/2/#findComment-586724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago They went back to 24v? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76205-differences-pioneer-and-anthem/page/2/#findComment-586766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago That’s what I heard and it’s very complicated to repair Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76205-differences-pioneer-and-anthem/page/2/#findComment-586779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Heinz Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Yes, the new Volvos and Macks are 24v, and it's already a crap show. There's an updated procedure to jump the trucks off correctly THAT DOESN'T WORK. Customers have tried, we have tried. And nearly every time a truck gets jumped off, it fries the module that regulates the charging system. Yes, that's right, there's a module right there with the batteries! There's a module for EVERYTHING on these new trucks. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76205-differences-pioneer-and-anthem/page/2/#findComment-586780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Got to remember a lot of European stuff has been 24 volt for a long time. Volvo just F%^& it up! The British and Austrian city buses I worked on were all 24 volt. Most motor coaches are 24 volt. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76205-differences-pioneer-and-anthem/page/2/#findComment-586782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 8 minutes ago, The Heinz said: Yes, the new Volvos and Macks are 24v, and it's already a crap show. There's an updated procedure to jump the trucks off correctly THAT DOESN'T WORK. Customers have tried, we have tried. And nearly every time a truck gets jumped off, it fries the module that regulates the charging system. Yes, that's right, there's a module right there with the batteries! There's a module for EVERYTHING on these new trucks. And the entrapment continues! VOLVO TRASH! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76205-differences-pioneer-and-anthem/page/2/#findComment-586784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago lol my company had a bunch of Volvo while back they dumped all of them after a couple years but kept one and that thing was sent back to dealership over and over for engine shutdown because of low coolant level with radiator full they can’t figure out the problem… so most of the time it just sits nobody wants to drive it Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76205-differences-pioneer-and-anthem/page/2/#findComment-586785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago I drove one 9 months and it was in deadline 13 times Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76205-differences-pioneer-and-anthem/page/2/#findComment-586786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Someone on here was saying a while back the Volvos in Europe are a lot more dependable.. for some reason they send all the junk to United States Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76205-differences-pioneer-and-anthem/page/2/#findComment-586787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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