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Call your dealer and get the part number from the heads for your truck. Use VIN from other years/models to check compatibility. Chances are your head # supersedes to another number, so make note of that number to see what else might have it. VIN #'s can be had easily from online auction/sales sites.
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Door lettering. Since we're buying our first brand new volumetric concrete mixer since 1967 from a company we have never used, I couldn't help myself. Had to add when we started into the business. These mixers were invented in the early '60s, so there can't be very many companies with as many years in "the business" as us. We're tiny, don't get me wrong, it's just my dad and I. Tons of businesses much bigger than us, but we love what we do and are quite happy being small and paying our bills.
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Yea I completely brainfarted. I've been 100% focused on getting our mr688 ready for Iowa. Stress is through the roof, we function quite happily in a 15-20 mile radius. 1,500 mile trip on a truck we have put about 25 miles on test driving since Monday! Fingers crossed no more hiccups! This truck leaves tomorrow morning!
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Coopersburgs Kenworth had a rare? used heavy single frame MR, 2 customers got into a bidding war over it. Heavy single is such a bonus.
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Interesting. That's the one thing that eluded me. I think the technicality I'm combatting is that I'm marked Intrastate on my DOT #. JJ Keller implies most states are just happy to get the trip permit $$$, despite the minor DOT intrastate technicality, but Illinois is very strict and wouldn't dismiss it as trivial. Regardless, my parents want nothing to do with Chicago/Illinois, so they're set on cruising Ohio to Kentucky to Tennessee to Missouri to Iowa. There's a ferry from Kentucky to Missouri but the ferry seems to have been broken down for a few weeks so the only other Mississippi River crossing (without going through Illinois) is to drop down to Tennessee.
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Or the engine or valve cover is a transplant.... Or not. Looks like the engine # is labeled in the cab too...
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Gauge worked fine up until the other day when I replaced the sending unit gasket. Now the gauge is pegged down to about a 5 o'clock position... I read 4.3 volts from positive to negative wires on the sending unit, and 4.3 volts to a known good ground. I did reroute the sending unit wires as I didn't like them laying loosely on the top of the transmission. Damaged wire strands? It had been folded back and forth about 5 times and zip tied to the fuel tank lines. I straightened it out so I could run it along the crossmember.
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MR 688 electrical trouble shooting. No crank
JoeH replied to Ryanp's topic in Electrical, Electronics and Lighting
https://www.emanualonline.com/material-handling/industrial-equipment-tools/vehicle-parts-accessories/transmissions-gearboxes/allison/4000-series/allison-transmission-4000-series-full-service-repair-manual-emo-171892.html?currency=USD&product_country=US&product_id=171892&placement=&adtype=&keyword=&gclid=CjwKCAiAl-6PBhBCEiwAc2GOVLpvhBeptBaObblZHzI6nRoPzRU1hylOl8ZohDFiQfdTkXVURgzllxoCMOYQAvD_BwE I believe this is the transmission manual I bought. Worth every penny. There's about 10 or 15 pdf files that it comes with for different books, but the information is very good, and has the DTC codes in it. -
MR 688 electrical trouble shooting. No crank
JoeH replied to Ryanp's topic in Electrical, Electronics and Lighting
2-3 intake air sensor 4-1 vehicle speed sensor (you have trans codes, so this will likely be linked to whatever is going on there) 1-4 ambient air temp sensor To verify EECU power, there's a bolt holding the wiring harness to the engine lock below the EECU. Takes a 10mm socket. Remove that to create enough slack to undo the 2 plugs into the EECU. They're pretty odd how they unlatch, the end the wires come into needs to lift waaay out once you undo the retainer lever. On the bottom plug, pins 10, 22, and 41 should have 12v power sourced from one of the 4 big relays hanging next to the VECU in the dash. You are probably fine on power to those terminals, I see you have a CB in the #40 slot now. -
MR 688 electrical trouble shooting. No crank
JoeH replied to Ryanp's topic in Electrical, Electronics and Lighting
Sounds like you are moving in the right direction. Loose circuit breaker connections can be squeezed to firm them up. There's a "patch" repair to backfeed clean power into the EECU. Without looking at your truck in person I can't know for sure if your EECU is actually getting power. I didn't see a breaker in CB-40, which should be the power to three 12v power pins on the EECU plugs. Truck can crank but won't start if the EECU doesn't get power. If I read correctly, you're working with one battery. It will take 2-3 batteries to start this thing. If the voltage to the EECU drops to 7 (going off memory) the EECU will power off until the voltage normalizes. The draw on one battery trying to start this thing is significant. Trans codes can be pulled as follows: press up/down arrows together, hold for a few seconds. Display will say "d1" then a 4 digit code. Press Mode to move to next 4 digit code. I believe it has 4 code slots? Each one listed as "d1", "d2" etc. Once you get to "dX -" you are to the end of the active code faults. These are Allison codes, so you will have to sift through Allison data to find what they mean. -
MR 688 electrical trouble shooting. No crank
JoeH replied to Ryanp's topic in Electrical, Electronics and Lighting
1999 and 2000 had the engine ECU under the turbo. 2001 saw the switch to driver side, which was a good move. I don't know enough to know if the diagrams would match or not. But his truck is 1 year newer than mine so hopefully they're close enough! Mines an ai350 to his ai300. Same trans! -
MR 688 electrical trouble shooting. No crank
JoeH replied to Ryanp's topic in Electrical, Electronics and Lighting
You seem to be hitting the wall I climbed 2 weeks ago! -
MR 688 electrical trouble shooting. No crank
JoeH replied to Ryanp's topic in Electrical, Electronics and Lighting
Here is the schematic for the Clean Power. You should see the numbers 343A 2.0 and 336A 2.0 on the wires in the plug in the grille I'm referring to. -
MR 688 electrical trouble shooting. No crank
JoeH replied to Ryanp's topic in Electrical, Electronics and Lighting
I made the mistake of deleting these during our frame job because I assumed they were for the trash body. You may have done similar, or someone else did prior. If you don't know which plug in the grille I'm talking about I can get a picture tomorrow. -
MR 688 electrical trouble shooting. No crank
JoeH replied to Ryanp's topic in Electrical, Electronics and Lighting
Also on the trans keypad there should be a 20 amp fuse and + and - wires that run from a battery to a plug in the radiator grill. These wires supply "clean power" (power that is has no voltage fluctuations from other systems sharing power feed) directly from the battery. Clean power comes through that 20a fuse then should go straight to fuse #65 which is 10a. -
MR 688 electrical trouble shooting. No crank
JoeH replied to Ryanp's topic in Electrical, Electronics and Lighting
I don't think there's a VMAC4? Correct me if I'm wrong? Yours should be a VMAC III. -
MR 688 electrical trouble shooting. No crank
JoeH replied to Ryanp's topic in Electrical, Electronics and Lighting
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MR 688 electrical trouble shooting. No crank
JoeH replied to Ryanp's topic in Electrical, Electronics and Lighting
You don't even have #40 installed. It should be a 25 amp Mini fuse or breaker. -
MR 688 electrical trouble shooting. No crank
JoeH replied to Ryanp's topic in Electrical, Electronics and Lighting
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MR 688 electrical trouble shooting. No crank
JoeH replied to Ryanp's topic in Electrical, Electronics and Lighting
https://www.diesellaptops.com/products/diesel-explorer Also download this onto a laptop while it's still free, and when you can stomach the cost buy their $683 Diesel Link Adapter so you can plug into the truck. You can see if all the computers are powering up and communicating. For us, it wasn't listing the Engine ECU, which ultimately was because it wasn't powering up due to fuse connectors for #40 were loose. -
MR 688 electrical trouble shooting. No crank
JoeH replied to Ryanp's topic in Electrical, Electronics and Lighting
I had same issue on mine, fuse #40 was loose. # says CB-40 (Circuit Breaker) -
MR 688 electrical trouble shooting. No crank
JoeH replied to Ryanp's topic in Electrical, Electronics and Lighting
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MR 688 electrical trouble shooting. No crank
JoeH replied to Ryanp's topic in Electrical, Electronics and Lighting
Here's the diagram for the 2003 we have been working on. Bergeys had to put in a service request directly to Mack to get this diagram for me. Top rate dealer! Look at fuse #40, check that the fuse is in there good and tight. Also you need to run Blink Code Diagnostics. Key On Engine Off (you can run it with engine running but you aren't there yet), hold the cruise control button (I forget which one) down til the Lightning Bolt goes out. It will then blink out a 2 digit code. Count the flashes. When that code is done the light will come back on and stay on. Press cruise again to display next trouble code. Repeat until it continues to display numbers it's already put out. Tell us what the codes are, so we can look them up for you. Also buy yourself Mack Manual 8-211, that's the VMAC III diagnostics book. It's a must have! -
There is one thing it CANT be: Cheap!
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This truck is a breeze to work on. First time we have had a transmission out and back in in one day. Old seal spun in the flywheel housing. We could move it by hand. New seal has Bearing Mount Loctite, and is recessed 1/4 inch per spec in our handy shop manual. Thanks Mark! Only frustration is this thing was supposed to be in Iowa yesterday. This snow storm coming in across the Midwest to new england later this week means the truck won't be in Iowa til Monday or Tuesday, barring any other roadblocks.
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