BottleHauler84 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago @Geoff Weeks as far as Neway, i think its the best there is withe the EXCEPTION of that ARDAB you're speaking of. Thats a really rare suspension. Ive only ever seen maybe 2 or 3 of them in person. Neway messed up on that design and Ive heard nobody really liked that model. The ARD heavy Neway and the more modern ADZ were both great suspensions. The weak link on the ARD were the equalizer bar bushings, and the weak link on the ADZ were the top tri-link bushings up top. We have both where I work and thats been the only issues. They are expensive as an option and to get parts for....but they are good suspensions. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76452-new-gen-macks/page/2/#findComment-592407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottleHauler84 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 11 minutes ago, 67RModel said: I seem to remember a guy on here a little while back that had some scarce, weird Mack air ride suspension on a 2010s or teens pinnacle highway tractor that he said the parts were no longer available. Wow. It wouldn't suprise me tho....I wonder if thats the MaxAir suspension? They referred to it as the "twisted sister" suspension, i thought was kinda weird. I believe that was a hendrickson suspension as well. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76452-new-gen-macks/page/2/#findComment-592408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Yeah the ARD is a totally different beast, nothing crosses between those and the ARDAB. I actually bought a nice lightly used walking beam cut off to replace the ARDAB with. Never got around to doing the swap, and it will now be up to the next owner what they want to put under it. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76452-new-gen-macks/page/2/#findComment-592409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Look at the Maxilite and count the bushings, 4 per axle, then look at the 8 bag and count the pivot points and bushings. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76452-new-gen-macks/page/2/#findComment-592410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
67RModel Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Geoff Weeks said: Never got around to doing the swap, and it will now be up to the next owner what they want to put under it. Did you ever end up selling the Marmon? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76452-new-gen-macks/page/2/#findComment-592411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 43 minutes ago, BottleHauler84 said: Friend sent me these. The new 8 bag looks heavy duty in person and probably rides well, but it has alot of parts to it and its pretty sophisticated looking in its design. Also, it has a TON of bolts, fasteners and brackets. That might be bad for the guys in the rust belt later down the road with salt and rust hiding in around and under all those parts and pieces.....just my opinion there. 🤢 What the huck 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76452-new-gen-macks/page/2/#findComment-592412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago The beauty of air ride is you can add lift axles and have the equalize simply, something that can't easily be done with spring suspensions. Company I worked for had ARD's on their heavy haul trucks. Can't say it did better or worse than the IHC (HAS) I had on mine. I had a Neway lift axle and it would equalize after a fashion with the IHC when loaded. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76452-new-gen-macks/page/2/#findComment-592413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottleHauler84 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 minute ago, Mark T said: 🤢 What the huck Right! Thats what im say.....did they put enough of them in there holy crap. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76452-new-gen-macks/page/2/#findComment-592414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 9 minutes ago, BottleHauler84 said: Wow. It wouldn't suprise me tho....I wonder if thats the MaxAir suspension? They referred to it as the "twisted sister" suspension, i thought was kinda weird. I believe that was a hendrickson suspension as well. That was that one with those Y shaped trailing arms (?) I think they referred to the arms as " blades " wherever the special place they went, I think this overcomplicated huckfest is headed. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76452-new-gen-macks/page/2/#findComment-592415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 2 minutes ago, 67RModel said: Did you ever end up selling the Marmon? Not yet, the 5th is off the frame, and I am going to paint where I blasted the rust off with a scaler, then re assemble and sell. To be fair it is going to need some work, and I don't know how many would be willing to put in the work. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76452-new-gen-macks/page/2/#findComment-592416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottleHauler84 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Mark T said: That was that one with those Y shaped trailing arms (?) I think they referred to the arms as " blades " wherever the special place they went, I think this overcomplicated huckfest is headed. Ahhh I gotcha. Yeah I remember that one. That didn't seem like a very good design from the start. The Mack TD i believe it was called. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76452-new-gen-macks/page/2/#findComment-592417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Makes me wonder, how many drivers outside of vocational uses have ever driven a truck OTR with spring ride? Good spring is better than bad air! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76452-new-gen-macks/page/2/#findComment-592418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 15 hours ago, JoeH said: Looks are... meh. Maybe itll grow on me, but im still working RD's and an MR. Take good care of these! When you read about the electronics in anything new, the only winners will be the mice who enjoy snacking on wiring😎 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76452-new-gen-macks/page/2/#findComment-592419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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