mackey58 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 So they got an idea about putting a pintle hook on the RD to pull the tag trailers. Is that a good idea?all the weight will be on the pintle,not on the fifth wheel.moving a 35k excavator when the lowboy is busy.any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted April 29, 2023 Author Share Posted April 29, 2023 Damn spell check. Pintle hook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 providing someone doesn't "cut corners" when buying the pintle hook. there are HD spring loaded hooks for such applications. I would think twice before installing a simple "pick up " style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 No, I do not get it either. They’re usually on the back of a dump truck unless I’m misunderstanding.Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 no problem at all as long as it was done properly. we have a 50 ton hook on the W900 tractor. it is mounted to 1 inch steel plate. 1 Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Yes, they do hold quite a bit. We use them but they’re usually for doubles to contact a Congear to the front trailer.weight usually between 300 -1000 pounds Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 I think what he is trying to say is he doesn’t know why they didn’t use a fifth wheel trailer Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted April 29, 2023 Author Share Posted April 29, 2023 They want to use both tags,when the 50 ton lowboy is busy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted April 29, 2023 Author Share Posted April 29, 2023 There kinda goofy some days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 yup. if the low boy is busy and all you have is a tag along trailer, hook up the spare tractor that is usually connected to the dump trailer with a pintle hook on it to the tag trailer and off you go. sometimes the dump truck is busy and not available. Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 4 hours ago, mackey58 said: There kinda goofy some days they all are... personally,i would feel more secure with fifth wheel drop deck,,,,all the weight on the back of the frame.absolutely nothing on the steer axle...bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Remmers Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 A tractor with a hitch plate is handy as long as it's done right. Also tag trailers are usually pretty balanced so you're not putting much weight on the tail of the truck. But then it also needs to be driven accordingly as there isn't much weight on the drives. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 i have no issues because i load the trailer according to weight. light machine in front, heavy over axles, light on tail. if just one piece, it goes over axles. this usually gives me around 2,000 lbs hook weight. if i do have a full load of heavys, i will get a tad rear heavy and than have to watch power applied when turning. the tandem is a bit nose light empty without the trailer. so if loaded wrong i can lift the front wheels with too much power. i don't have that problem with the W900 or triaxle though. 2 Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 Yes, I have heard most pull trailers are set up that way so there’s not too much tongue weight and yes 2000 pounds ain’t shit with a heavy hitch and mounting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted April 30, 2023 Author Share Posted April 30, 2023 They should have got a 35t lowboy as a backup we have a 50 ft and lowboy tractor. We don't have anything big anymore except a jd 290 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted April 30, 2023 Author Share Posted April 30, 2023 They do stuff and don't ask us with 33 years experience. They ask guys with no cdl or one with an auto endorsement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted April 30, 2023 Author Share Posted April 30, 2023 Thanks for your input 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 48 minutes ago, mackey58 said: They should have got a 35t lowboy as a backup we have a 50 ft and lowboy tractor. We don't have anything big anymore except a jd 290 seems as life goes on the phrase "should have " has become more regular conversation.. common sense still around the should have statement wouldn't be necessary. I can understand a pintle hook on tractor to make use of parked equipment vs buying a new piece which wouldn't have full time use. i take it to be lowbed being used second tractor could be used with a tag trailer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 2 hours ago, mackey58 said: They do stuff and don't ask us with 33 years experience. They ask guys with no cdl or one with an auto endorsement Don’t feel bad bud thier all the same my company is the same way. It wasn’t always like that.. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 we have a 60 ton low deck lowboy. it is primarily used for the milling machine, excavators, and large rollers. but when i have large loads of pavers and skidsteers going to a job, i can put 2 skids, the paver, and 2 smaller rollers on it in one shot. my tag along trailer is 30 foot deck and 25 ton capacity. i can put the paver, a small roller and a skid on that at one time. that combo puts me rite around 75,000 lbs. 1 Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted April 30, 2023 Author Share Posted April 30, 2023 One tag is 20k electric brakes (sucks) the 40k is a 19'deck 5' beaver tail air brake 20k is 20'deck5' beaver tail.so they ll ,fxxk up the RD with an electric brake controller. Whee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 electric brakes.......yuck!!! 1 Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted April 30, 2023 Author Share Posted April 30, 2023 Yep it's an 01 bought new ,spent more on electric brakes over the years they probably could have bought a new tri axle tag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 has something to do with the idea =they make the big bucks and the decisions :the workin folk always question that thought ;don't we. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted April 30, 2023 Author Share Posted April 30, 2023 Penny wise,pound foolish lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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