speweik Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 With the cold weather finally here, the old Mack (lanova) is starting pretty hard. Originally, there was a diesel fired preheater burner in the air intake line. I have some of the parts ( jets and points) for it, but no pump or coil. My guess is that an electric pump ran the outfit with a small coil to ignite the atomized fuel. Does anyone have a complete set up so I can figure out how it works and sop using a propane torch to help with starting. Thanks! Corey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Why not source a more modern intake heater. Will work better and less troubles.. just a thought.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtywhiteboy Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 install a electric block heater an plug it in....best alternative.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speweik Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 I'm definitely planning on an electric block heater, but am fascinated by the original setup. Theres something about obsolete technology that I find interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivetroad Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 I'm definitely planning on an electric block heater, but am fascinated by the original setup. Theres something about obsolete technology that I find interesting...I bought a new TN75 Ford New-Holland farm tractor in '04 that has the same preheater set up - it works great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39 Baby Mack Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Never saw it work or tried to make it work but we had one in an LFit was a hand pump under the dash to the right of the steering columnhad a plate on the dash with instructions that looked like a paragraph out of a novel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speweik Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 I bought a new TN75 Ford New-Holland farm tractor in '04 that has the same preheater set up - it works great.You mean the diesel burner style? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speweik Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 Never saw it work or tried to make it work but we had one in an LFit was a hand pump under the dash to the right of the steering columnhad a plate on the dash with instructions that looked like a paragraph out of a novel!There is a button on the dash right next to the starter button to activate the preheater. It Is a momentary type switch which led me to believe that it drove an electric fuel pump, but now the mention of the hand pump has me wondering.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivetroad Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 You mean the diesel burner style?Yes, it is a air intake heater that uses diesel fuel. You hold a button in on the dash for a minute or so and that opens a tiny fuel valve and sprays diesel onto a hot coil which burns the fuel in a sort of small combustion chamber in the air intake. The tractor also has a electric block heater, but I never use it. If it is cold, it fires right up if you use the air intake heater. I have always wondered when it will quit working or start a unwanted fire, but no pro-blem-o yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39 Baby Mack Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 The old LF I told you about had the same button with a silver bezelmarked HT. next to the starter button just like yours.Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxidyne237 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 That style set up with the diesel fuel pre heater was common on cummins engines. It had a large glow plug and a hand pump pressurised oil burner nozzle in the intake. The hand primer could probably be sourced from one of these cummins powered units since they were much more common than lanovas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speweik Posted December 4, 2011 Author Share Posted December 4, 2011 That style set up with the diesel fuel pre heater was common on cummins engines. It had a large glow plug and a hand pump pressurised oil burner nozzle in the intake. The hand primer could probably be sourced from one of these cummins powered units since they were much more common than lanovas.I took some pictures today of the parts I have. The piece below bolts onto the air intake line (on top of the intake manifold). Looks like I would need a coil and the pump. Any idea if this piece is the same as on the cummins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaysm35a2 Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Ive seen them Alot with the 250 Cummins, if your looking for the same set up im sure I can find you a entire set up if the Cummins kind will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speweik Posted December 4, 2011 Author Share Posted December 4, 2011 Given the simplicity of the design, im guessing almost any kind would work. I'd be interested in some pics of the cummins design, but would likely be interested in a complete set-up (if it doesn't break my bank!) thanks!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 I've seen guys use a small air reservoir set to 15psi to atomize the fuel spray. I assume the nozzle is probably a "Delavan" at about 90 degrees spray pattern? Usually you want the engine cranking when engaging the heater system so the engine fires quickly.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaysm35a2 Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 I forgot to add that, yeah your going to want to be pumping the cold start as your cranking the engine with the glow plug on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speweik Posted December 4, 2011 Author Share Posted December 4, 2011 I figured it would be a three handed operation ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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