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On 9/11/2015 at 4:27 AM, kscarbel2 said:
From the 1980s, BMC produced the “Fatih” medium truck which used Leyland's old G-series cab ("Redline/Bathgate" cab).
Interesting that they named the truck "Faith"; perhaps a nod towards Turkey being a country at the confluence of Eastern and Western religions... never heard of BMC before today.
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Is that the same Mount Pilot Andy and Barney were always talking about?
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Maybe the nomenclature changes once the after coolers become standard on all V8's... because the 735 1005 engine was not aftercooled and the 736 was... All 721-22's were intercooled correct?
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23 hours ago, Vladislav said:
The roads I saw in that movie look close to what you find going deeper in Russia. Sure during warm time. But here you never see truck drivers who does such stupid jokes in the street. That would end up very bad for a driver even if he is an owner-operator.
So looks like Brasil is one uncommon place in the world. I heard from a friend of mine a story of his friiend who made a business trip to Brasil. It was told about a really high level of crime in the streets so too many peple have to make their vehicles bulletproof to just drive in a city. Don't know how it really close to the thruth though.
The crime in the streets is terrible.. Muggings are common.... but bulletproof glass is only for special people even there.
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17 minutes ago, BGarofalo said:
The engine serial number should be on the passenger side of the engine on the oil pan rail. You will see a flat area. I would have to agree with 41Chevy, I think the number built is wrong. The timeline with the engine build dates just doesn't line up. Aside from a few differences they are pretty much identical to an E9.
I got it started last night. Ill try to post a video.
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Two filter set-up there... before the ESI engines were introduced.?
I lifted this photo from the web purely as a reference for my truck... I assumed it is the same tag my truck should have had originally. This tag is on a 1983 RW721, and still called a 1005 at that time.
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2 hours ago, Yoos Brothers Construction said:
The one in my 1980 RWS721LST Superliner tri axle is an ETCZB1000. My engine tag is gone as well but I got this off the right front pan rail. An interesting thing on mine is that it has a the number 142(I think off the to of my head) welded to the block in about 3 inch numbers above the starter. The engine has never been out of the frame. The truck only had 52,000 original miles on it when I bought it. I've never seen such a thing on a E9. Also my injector lines are routed completely different than an E9. Mine has never been painted. It has the original red orange engine paint that Mack used in 1980. The history of these engines in the early days is fascinating to me. I have a picture of a R735S tri axle dump that my Dad looked at buying in the 80's. It was a test truck with the ET1005 in it with a 6 spd tranny. Also there is a cement plant in Meadville, Pa near me that had one that was tri axle dump as well. Both of these did not have air coolers.
Interesting to see the shift in nomenclature from the 735, 736 1005's to the more common (numerous) 721, 722 E9's ... my truck is indeed a 736 and like yours, a 1980 as well.
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1 hour ago, 41chevy said:
The ET1005 and the ET1000 were all built in the same run, personally I think the production numbers are wrong and more were built than shown.It was also in production the same time as the ENDT865 ans END 866.
As for the photo it may be too large a size to post. If you want sent it to my e mail and I can most likely post it. PTCHESHIRE@JUNO.COM
Interesting to note here the F735 is the Model number for the 1005 cabover I presume, at 353 and 360 horsepower. My truck model number is RW736 @ the 400 horsepower rating.
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1 hour ago, BGarofalo said:
What is the engine serial number on your engine? Is is painted the gold color originally? I'm curious as to why if there were only 142 of these engines they span 3 years. So the engine I just bought is number 113 and it was built in mid 1976?
Amybody have a tip for me posting a picture? Keeps telling me error. Never had trouble before.
The tag is missing on my engine's valve cover.... is there another place to look? It is just sort of a gray color... to my knowledge, it has never been painted either, and I've talked to the original owner....
1 hour ago, 41chevy said:It basically is an E9, second generation so to speak. The different horse powers of the ET1005 engines is all by different size turbo's.
Here is a list of all the E9 type V8's
~ET1000 – Turbocharged non-Maxidyne All variations
998CID, 5 3/8 x 5 ½ 1978to 1980
261Built Includes ETAXB1000 400 hp, ETAZ1000 400 hp, and ETAZB1000 400hp, ETCX1000 400 hp, ETCXV1000 400 hp, ETCZ1000 400 hp, ETCZB1000 400 hp
~ET1005 -Turbocharged Maxidyne All variations
998CID, 5 3/8 x 5 ½ 1976 to 1979 142 Built ET1005 360 hp, ETB1005 360 hp, ETZ1005 360 hp, ETZB1005 360 hp, ETB1005A 360 hp, ETZB1005A 360 hp, ETAAZB1005 360 hp, ETCZ1005A 400 hp,ETCZB1005A 400 hp, and ETAZB1005A 400 hp
~EM9 – Turbocharged Maxidyne Chassis Mounted Charge Air Cooled All variations
998CID, 5 3/8 x 5 ½ 1979 to 1986 Includes EM9-400, EM9-400R, EMC9-400, EMC9-400R, and EME9-400
~E9 – Turbocharged non-Maxidyne Chassis Mounted Charge Air Cooled All variations
998CID, 5 3/8 x 5 ½ 1981 to 1999 Includes E9-400, EC9-400, E9-440, EE9-440, E9-441, E9-450, EE9-450,E9-500, EE9-500, and E9-525
According to the Mack Museum, my truck was originally destined to be a Maxidyne 1005 fitted with a 6 speed transmission, but at some point during the build Mack contacted the buyer and stated the need to upgrade to the 12 speed because the truck was going to be equipped with an intercooler and higher horsepower (a fact the original owner confirmed).... Perhaps one of the first chassis mounted intercoolers Mack utilized.... there are notes (I believe) on the original line ticket alluding to this alteration. Mine may well be an E9 after the fact and NOT one of the 142.
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37 minutes ago, 41chevy said:
All I have is this info,
ET1005 -Turbocharged Maxidyne All variations 998CID, 5 3/8 x 5 ½ 1976 to 1979. Total of 142 Built IncludesET1005 (360 hp), ETB1005 (360 hp), ETZ1005 (360 hp), ETZB1005 (360 hp),ETB1005A (360 hp), ETZB1005A (360 hp), (ETAAZB1005 (360 hp), ETCZ1005A (400 hp),ETCZB1005A (400 hp), and ETAZB1005A (400 hp)
I have one of the 142 1005's in my Superliner according to the Mack Museum..... the 400's were the later models. My truck was ordered in 1979.... and for all intents and purposes, it looks just like an E9.
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I'm thinking US-built van trailers would just split under a twist like that... (Excluding Great Dane of course)
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On 1/8/2015 at 1:33 PM, 39 Baby Mack said:
On a further note,
All the older dogs are supposed to be duplicates of the soap carving made by Alfred Fellows Masury in 1932.
If you look closely at these dogs you will notice that they are not symmetrical.
This leads one to believe that the soap carving story is true which I believe it is.
If you look straight into his face you will notice that his R.H. eye is higher than his left, turn him around, look at his back hips
his right one is cut down lower than his left.
Look at him from both sides, notice the flat spots in the middle of the legs on both sides, wide on the right, narrow on the left.
His mid section narrow in front wide in the back on the left, just the opposite on the right.
Needless to say he's crooked as a copy of the carving would be.
As Don stated above they changed the ears and tail in 1979.
I like the way he put it, to make it more friendly.
The rest of the dog stayed the same, crooked as it should be.
Sometime later I was surprised and disgusted to find out that they changed it altogether and that he was no longer crooked but was indeed symmetrical.
I don't know exactly when they did this but I first noticed it in the early 90's.
Go look at a new one, he is indeed symmetrical.
I have no idea why in the world they would do this, but the thought of some young buck noticing it was crooked and thought that it was
terrible that their corporate symbol was like that comes to mind!
I think before changing it they should've found out why he was the way he was and left well enough alone.
It's funny, but at about the same time I found this out the Mack Co. was running an ad in the truck magazines about the "Bulldog"
Wish I had one to show, but I don't, maybe someone else on here can find one.
The ad had a Bulldog hood ornament superimposed over the Declaration of Independence and the tag line went something like this
Yeah it's just a hood ornament like the Declaration of Independence is just a piece of paper!
After seeing that I thought to myself well you guys have made it just a hood ornament!
They had taken all the history out of the "Bulldog"
I'm sure Mr. Masury would not be pleased!
Ron
Amazing... just picked up a crooked gold dog.. now I know its legit!
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On 10/12/2017 at 7:38 PM, m16ty said:
This autoclave had been shut down for a few years. But yes, the plant is nowhere near what it was.
At the height of WWII, about 6,000 people worked there. Until recent years, there were about 3,000. Now I think they are less than 500.
Common story... When I ride around, I'm always looking at the new cars in traffic and thinking to myself, "Where the hell are all these people working?"
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On 10/3/2017 at 8:12 AM, david wild said:So some call us not to debate what has happened, yet the left politicians have come out full steam for outright gun bans but us the voter should remain quiet ??? Ms. Warren is full steam ahead with her agenda, I read the CDC said that 3536 people drown in swimming pools or 10 per day, so in 5 days 50 plus will die and I have not heard one word about banning swimming pools, and children are the bulk of the victims ?? even more reason to ban pools, there are millions of gun owners who never break the law or kill someone yet let one wacko and the all gun owners are branded killers, maybe we should have the left leaning liberals be silent and take the wack jobs off the streets and not innocent gun owners. I am sure that Clinton is doing her best to somehow tie Trump to this, and speaking of Clinton notice her husband the cigar man does say much about Trump ?? Hard to condemn when you have done worse. Bill keeps his mouth shut, Hillary is to stupid to know any better.
There are around 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, and this number is not disputed. The U.S. population was 324,059,091 as of June 22, 2016. Do the math: 0.000000925% of the population dies from gun related action each year.
• 65% of those deaths are by suicide.
• 15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty.
• 17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related.
• 3% are accidental discharge deaths.
So technically, "gun violence" is not 30,000 annually, but drops to 5,100. Still too many? Now lets look at how those deaths spanned across the nation.
• 480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago
• 344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore
• 333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit
• 119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (a 54% increase over prior years)
So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have strict gun laws, so it is not the lack of law that is the root cause. This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.
Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course, but understand, it is not guns causing this. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. So if all cities and states are not created equal, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths. Are 5,100 deaths per year horrific? Absolutely! But how about in comparison to other deaths? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assault are all done by criminals. It is ludicrous to think that criminals will obey laws. That is why they are called criminals.But what about other deaths each year?
• 40,000+ die from a drug overdose.
• 36,000 people die per year from the flu.
• 34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities.
Now it gets good:
• 200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical errors. You are safer walking in the worst areas of Chicago than you are when you are in a hospital!
• 710,000 people die per year from heart disease. It’s time to stop the double cheeseburgers! So what is the point? If the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.). A 10% reduction in medical errors would be 66% of the total number of gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides ................ Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions! So you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns? It's pretty simple: Taking away guns gives control to governments. The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace. Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. It must be preserved at all costs. So the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these numbers and remember these words from Noah Webster: "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed."-
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I may go fight on the side of the Catalans.. seems there's a good novel to be written.
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2 hours ago, ws721 said:
I'd hate to have to replace that windshield in $ or just to replace it in the back yard with no tools like I can with my COE's. Cant be a very big sleeper
The sleepers are TINY.. I don't know how they do it... much smaller than a Cruiseliner.
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On 9/10/2017 at 7:56 PM, mowerman said:
This was me in 1984. Thought I'd throw in the other photo I took 1986:..83 cruiseliner I used to own not a very good picture...bob
Pic was so K@@L I had to clean it up and repost it...
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powered by a 4-71 ? my old neighbor ran International gassers, lived beneath mile marker 17 on the PA Pike... said he hear a 4-71 coming, he'd go in to eat lunch, and when he was coming back out Jimmy would be crawling past.
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I'm guessing it isn't an E-6....
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Looks like Yooper timber to me...
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Hello all,
I am the owner of this old Mack.
I inherited this truck on a real estate purchase. I did not know much about it until I put it up for sale. I have learned quite a bit about it since. Initially, i misread the plate on the engine and mistakenly posted "E7" it is an E9 (as you all know). I still have it for sale. The price is $7,000 (or better offers).
Please feel free to enlighten me with any other info you may know about this ol' girl. She's a dandy. I also have another Mack V8 under some tarps and another cabover cab that looks like a twin, hiding in the bushes here that I inherited as well.
Please feel free to give me a call if anyone is interested in purchasing any of the items. I would love to see someone get some use out of them.
Thanks,
Aaron (North Central Idaho)
208-827-2518
Did you sell it?
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LOVED it... I knew you were a fun guy!
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Can you post a pic of the area on the oil pan rail where yours is stamped? I see a bumped out area near the front corner where my a/c compressor mounts, but I can feel or see any numbers there.