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i drilled mine thru the cab and mounted it with stainless nut and locknuts when i had the headliner out. couldnt bring myself to cobbing a self tapping screw thru my cab. only ones i used the self tapers on were the winshield posts. all of the bolts you cab get to but a few are a real pain. i taped the nut in a ,ong wrench and reached in between the sheetmetal. i ddint put the center support in thru the windshields and it does vibrate in the wind a little. also make sure you test fit it before painting. probably need to trim a 1/4 inch off around the outside cab lights. i know i did.

township up here in upstate Ny use to have two B422 single axle plow trucks. dont know where the other went but my friend bought the one for parts, had a brand new engine it it.was rotted bad from plowin and spreadin salt all its life. he wouldnt sell it. then one day seen the remains in the junkyard with the engine intact. we went down and bought the double over drive baby quad 18 speed out of it and the rear end. lookin back wish she bought thr whole frame . all the sheetmetal was gone off it by then. was an odd truck. had no front brakes on it and had aluminum front spoke hubs with chrome mack caps. only aluminum front spokes i have ever seen.

i think id leave it original myself. probably end up in the well cared for Mahan Collection

seems the prices of all those used Macks are up there pretty good. nice sheet metal on that B61 tho but not for 14000 for an unrestored truck

speakin of N models. anyone know who owns the Tidewater Mack N model and B68 that Matt Pfahl restored for them and they use to tote parts to shows with? i know they were both for sale with pretty high prices at one time with and without the bodies. Just wonderin who ever wound up with them.

thats a hard one, seen them both ways. seen the fuller mounted just to the engine bell housing with the rear of the engine being mounted with the four holes on either side of the bell housing from the engine. also seen the fuller mounts mounted where the Mack mounts are drilled in the frame. hard to really say until you get under there. we made our own mounts to mount a modern triple countershaft roadranger in a 66 R609T

depends what the gas transmission is. if its a TRD72 series it would bolt up but the transmission and hangers might have to be moved back. would be easier with a doner truck as u would still need mounts, radiator and read ends

i was not too fond of the guy that owned the B70. sorry if its someone on this site but he acted like he wanted to sell it but was gonna see who would pay the most. sure it was a nice survivor, but still was cobbed, someone stretched the frame poorly and it still had a 707 in it with a gas rear end. not bad but not something your gonna junp in and do 65 with and get decent fuel mileage. he also seemed to have the attitude like he was the only one around who knew anything about a B model. kinda rubbed me the wrong way.

wow, thata back when big trucks actually blew black smoke when workin, not just souped up daddy paid for diesel pickups that young punks are turnin the pumps up on and leavin a gof at stop lights haha

that green R600 was sweet. so was the red ED parked right behind it. also the Blue Arrow B70 was pretty nice. was a solid truck but had a gas hog 707 in it. sounded good tho. think the last offer he has was $4500 for it. i saw it leaving on a wrecker but dunno if he sold it. also saw the prototype truck comin back empty, dunno who they delivered it to. i spotted that white r model water truck on the way back also Vinney. did u see the green 780's R model with flat bed on it on 81 on the way down or back?

definately a RR. looks like a R96 maybe?

Mcbride sounds familiar. theres an old guy here in town whos about 70 and still drive milk tanker for green truckin GTI. they have the odd colored Macks. he told me about it. if i see him tomorrow ill ask him.

nope, just found the pic online. might have been from the aths site. I know there was a milk hauler down near kingston Ny that had a bunch of B61's with the B75 series radiators that they ordered this way.i was told they did this so they could put more ass under the hood if they had to in the future. they were runnin 711's with triplexs in them. I have seen na B61 with the B75 radiator and a B615 with it but never seen one with the cast B80 series radiator.

anyone know the story on this radiator? not even an aluminum retrofit from a B75. its def cast iron with the emblem off a B80.

the original Angry Bird had an ETAZ673 tip turbine engine in it i believe which would be a 300+ with a 10 speed roadranger.

10 speed roadranger ? no two stick? Sarcreligious!

Mike Harbinson would know. i know we have talked about this before but i thought they were all dodge runnin gear. was still probably a B model frame tho.

a lot of B models had one extra leaf in the passenger side to take car of the crown in the road. i guess if we were across the pond, they would have an extra one in the left side? haha

thats a sweet lookin U model. even if im not a huge fan, its still a mack. looks solid. the few times i have been thru alabama and ga and fla i never seemed to spot any old macks down that way. only one i found was an old solid F model. was at the BigCatHabitat in Sarasota if anyone is interested. the cat thing was featured on american pickers actually a few weeks after we went there.

yea they ran chrysler engines back then. think maybe they ordered the B's like that so the parts were common with everything else they were running? they were built on a totally dodge chassis i believe. my B613T had a max wedge 413 industrial sinfully placed under the hood when we got it. its still in the garage on the engine stand. brand new with about 200 miles on it. Keith, the one with the nice green R410P got the 5 and 3 speed tranny from it a few years back. Matt

yup, i agree Paul, the ones i have seen were more the Mint green color like the 65-72 R models. then of course Mack did use that nasty dark flat green color on some r models Back then.

there were some old aftermarket universal ones that were really rounded, more so than that of the stainless ones Barry sells. they were steel, heavy and the pipes were open in the back to let the doors rot lol. i have a few sets of those actually. they liked to rust. they were straight on top and about half round in the front and went quite a ways down the door. the bars were also welded together at the triangle.

looks like the bars need s alittle straightening on the one thats apart then. the front bar should come out almost at a 90 degree to the door.

the one we have s a TRQ770 i believe is an 18 speed the other is a TRQ7720 or something which is a 14 speed. these are both the small quads like found in the B42. i never knew they made many 67 series transmisions besies the 9 and 10 speeds actually. i have a B57 or B52 single axle that i think someone shortened with that shifting plate i believe and it was a 5 and 3 but was considered a 10 speed.

looks like you have a set of Retrac (Chevron) mirror bracket. mack never installed mirrors standard til after around 1961. after that they had the standard bracket from Delbar installed. it came in either chrome or stainless or usually Black. this is the same bracket set Watts still sells.looks like the one in your top left picture thats still together is an original 1961 and newer B model bracket. the other one you have in parts looks like a mix and match of parts. the front bar on the triangle should come out almost at a 90 degree angle from the door. the one thats all apart in your pic definately doesnt looks like Mack or delbar and if it is someone has bent it wrong. some B models also had a steel bracket that was rounded and went a little ways down the front of the door. these were from the 50's but were also aftermarket. msot B models from the 50's has generic universal brackets on them. some early ones even had the little Bicycle mirrors on the cowl on a pod with the bolts in the bracket as west cost mirrors werent common til the 60's. most mirrors on B model before then were usually installed at the dealer or by the owner and were universal. Matt