To recap from before I slashed my wrist, I put an E-6 in my B-61 and found that the cab would not go far enough forward to install the cab mount bolts without hitting the engine. I enquired here and was told that I needed to use the balancer and water pump off the 673 as the shafts are shorter (DOH!). So, now that I am somewhat "healed" I am back to the B-61 project and job one has been to change out those items and move the engine/trans forward. The balancer from the 673 has no timing mark but the balancer from the E-6 does, In fact, I used them to set the valves when I got the engine. Actually, all I needed was the HUB from the 673 as it is shorter. Soooooo, I thought I would put the damper from the E-6 on the hub from the 673 so I would retain the timing marks for future reference. However, to do so, I would need to find TDC so I could orient the damper properly. In Mack's infinite wisdom, the bolt pattern to bolt the damper to the hub is symmetrical so it can go on in 6 different positions (six bolt pattern). If I had thought of this prior to Putting the damper on the crank, I could have used the location of the keyway to orient it. Don't really want to pull the damper back off the crank (PITA). On thinking about the 673 damper (Since these engines are internally balanced IMO the proper term for what I am talking about is a "damper, not a "balancer") not having any timing marks, It occurred to me that this may be due to when nestled in a B model chassis, any timing marks probably can't be seen anyways so any timing done would not use the damper anyways. Don't REALLY want to reopen valve covers and pull an injector for something that I no longer think is likely to be helpful ANYWAYS, I guess I will just use the blank damper from the 673. If my thinking is wrong on ANY points here, somebody PLEASE set me straight. BTW, since the engine is internally balanced AND the damper CAN be put on the hub in any of six different positions, I am assuming that it matters not what position on the hub the damper is bolted.