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On 10/28/2021 at 3:09 PM, Hulio said:

How do you tell which cups or injectors are bad? Once you pull the old ones out are they damaged by the removal process? Might seem Petty but at several hundred a piece why do all six when one has gone bad in less than 100k? Is it usually the injectors or just the cups? Can you replace one without the other?

 

Am I mistaken or is it simply extreme pressure that holds them in until the injector is installed and torqued?

No way to really tell which one /ones are bad without removing and inspecting them. Usually when I find 1 leaking, there are a couple more that are either leaking or about to. 

Imo no point in doing 1 (assuming you are lucky enough that the first one you pull is the culprit) because the others will be leaking soon. 

The injectors /cups once installed, mate to each other, so you can't just replace 1 without the other. 

They say you can reinstall an old injector into the same cup after removal, but I don't think I've ever encountered a situation where I did that. When they come out, it's because I know they are leaking so it's all going to be replaced. 

 

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When they come out because you know they are leaking how do you know they are leaking? Air bubbles in the tank is how I've seen it diagnosed and I've seen that be wrong. Bubbles can come from any leak in the fuel system

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To check for air in the fuel on an MP, there is 2 ways. Commonly, you hook a long clear line with a banjo fitting on one end that fits correctly to the banjo bolt on the fuel return, located at the front of the head behind the lifting eye. Then you run it back into the filler neck of the tank and submerge it into the fuel, run the engine and look for bubbles/suds..  and there it is....  another setup has you hook to the fuel filter pad, on the left side of the engine, unfortunately, I forgot which port you hook too.  once again, a clear hose with the correct banjo fitting on one end.  jojo

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22 hours ago, Hulio said:

When they come out because you know they are leaking how do you know they are leaking? Air bubbles in the tank is how I've seen it diagnosed and I've seen that be wrong. Bubbles can come from any leak in the fuel system

Any part of the suction side of the fuel system will draw air in. Seen fuel water separators cause this a few times and corroded block off plates where the primary fuel filter would sit. 

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