ThaddeusW

Exactly where are the radios and speakers mounted in an R and B model? Interesting to hear if anyone has ever put in a system that can really crank in there rig . I like my music loud.

Was wanting to know if it's the web site or if it's my mozillz firefox.

Also want to say love the sight never posted before but don't own a Mack Yet. I did work for a dealer Delivering new trucks. And numerious 10 wheelers Now run a farm (I added my self to your map)

Yea it’s probably because invisionzone does not comply with W3C (World Wide Web Consortium) standards. At first I though it might be a bug in Firefox. I then checked this site in IE, opera and firefox under windows and then konqueror and fire fox under Linux and got the same results. Works fine in IE though (Thanks Microsoft for making up non W3C extensions to compeat unfairly. )

As a side note: in opera you can see and click on the navigation links that fire fox hides under the site banner. Only they are on top of the banner.

Here is a pic my buddy from OS Hill (an International Dealer) took. It is nice to see one of these working and not going to a rap concert!

Barry that is one sweet ride. I got a chance to test drive one at the International truck tour. With air ride everything and a really kicking stereo system with all the interior trimmings it was a real pleasure. I wouldn't mind one but parking it in NYC would be hell. I must admit I like the Internationals.

For some reason I wasn't thinking right and said the DM800 was on truckpaper, but in fact it was on ericksontrucks.com. Sorry for the mix up... Anyway, I'd kinda like to find an affordable one that I could slap a coat of paint and a dump bed on and go to work like I've done with my DM685... There was a DM800 for sale at Whitington's Used Trucks in Memphis, but it was pretty rough and had a 25 yard plus coal bed on it that was useless for hauling rock without a third axle.

No problem. I am on truck paper just about every other day lol.

Wait a minute, hold the phone! Hey Thad, I saw your post in "Pin Striping" and finally figured out (thanks to you) how to resize pictures. Who says you can't teach an old dog a new trick. Thanks, Bob

Your very welcome

Hi Thad,

I had posted a question on the yesterdays tractor board that I frequent. Great bunch of guys (and girls). A fellow named T-Bone had some comments. Just from reading his posts over the years I have a good deal of respect for his ideas and opinions. I would be careful with going to some kind of design that is too far out of the norm. If something were to happen, the lawyers would have a field day. especially if you are not a certified welder, etc. What I was thinking was a reciever type hitch on the back of the mack that I could pull ball trailers, pintles, etc. I will paste some of T-bones comments in to the message below and put a picture of the hitch design he talks about. If it does not go into the message, it will be in my album. I hope he does not mind me posting it.

Hope it helps,

George

Thanks for the info George (and everyone else too!). See the thing is I want a compact and 100% portable hookup. It has to mount to any tractor and every tractor has a 5th wheel. Some type of rear plate for a hitch seems too permanent and requires me to adapt it at the point of pickup. This thing if built right it would work with no problem.

Does anyone know where I can find a fixer-upper dm800 with a six cylinder engine? I found one on truckpaper.com, but it needed engine work and had a v8 (something I know nothing about)

Hmm I cant find the DM800 you are referring to but I found this one. 35 grand is alotta money though. There is a DM811sx with a 300 for 20 grand. I have been looking at this RD800SX. It is a winch tractor with 12.00x24's and man I love the 12.00x24's and its less then an hour from me. But 45 grand for a rusted up allison automatic cummins combo? I dont think so. This RD would be my pick but um yea little to big lol.

OR did you mean RD800 like this one with the e9 450? Take the 450 out and put an e6 in. I am sure you could trade the e9 for an e6 or sell it.

Anyone know if they make an adapter that lets you hook a sort of towbar to the 5th wheel to allow a regular ballhitch to be used? I looked around and came up with nothing. I know a 5th wheel would allow the bar to swing around and pitch up and down but a sort of lock could rest of the frame and hold the bar strait.

Here is a simple drawing of what I am trying to explain (notice the "leet paint skillz")

The idea is if I find a running truck that I can drive to within reasonable distance I can rent a uhaul car carrier and hitch it to my tahoe and drive to the truck. Once at the truck I hook the tow bar adapter the to trucks 5th wheel, lock it to the frame using clamps, chains, straps whatever and hitch up the uhaul to the truck. I then put my tahoe on the trailer and drive home. That way I can easily retreive a truck and drive it home solo without having to own a trailer.

If it aint made commercially then I could make it myself. Easy fabrication and I could even make it extendible in both axis to fit a varity of 5th wheel positions and heights. But does anyone know if its legal?

I was just looking around and saw a post about an air throttle. I am guessing the accelerator is a pressure regulator that sends an air signal to a piston with a spring. The harder you press the more air pressure the further the piston extends against the spring moving the throttle lever on the pump .

What engines used them and are they hard to fix/replace? And if anyone has a picture of the setup that would be great.

Hi Doug, Thought I'd include a picture of my "new" truck working too. It's a 1979 DM686SX which does most of the heavy lifting now but here in little NJ sometimes theres just not enough room for it to fit so the B steps in. Looks like we basically do the same thing with our trucks and our Macks are just as happy in the mud & dirt as they are on the road. Bob

For some reason this reply won't allow a picture of the DM to be attached saying that there's not enough filespace. The DM ain't that big! I'll try it again later

Your B pictures are 1.5mb each. We each get 6MB total space on this board. Your going to need to resize them and reduce the quality a little to make em fit.

sorry for the large phots! still cant figure out how to resize

Trent,

To easily resize an image in windows, you can use paint. It’s under programs>accessories and then click on paint. Open your image in paint and click the image menu and then select stretch/skew option. Then in the two stretch boxes you will see 100 in each box. To make the image one half the original size put 50 in each box. You can put any number in that you need but make sure both numbers are the same. Then either save it or use save as to create a smaller separate picture from the original.

If you or anyone needs a photo manipulation program like Photoshop try the GIMP (funny name but it stands for GNU Image Manipulation Program). You can get it here but you need to download both the GIMP and GTK+. And make sure you get the right GTK+ installer; one is for windows 98, me and NT4 the other is for windows 2000 and XP. It takes some getting used to but it works great and is 100% free.

Mercy, mercy! You have hit a nerve in old fuzzy buzzard! I realize this is kinda out in left field based on your original message but I got a song to sing here. These damn truck builders should be forced to install tow air connections on all air brake trucks so the draggin' wagon drivers have a fast way to hook up brakes on the towed unit. Sure its easy to air up the system - just pull the compressor discharge line and hook in your red line BUT do this on the side of the road with every 4 wheeler dusting the ass of your pants and half of the truck drivers (who are on cell phones) tap mirrors just above your head. Now we got the system aired up (your whites are hanging out the seat of your pants and most of that mirror glass is now in your socks) and can release the spring brakes. Now we got to pull a line off the tredle valve to hook up the service line so we can apply brakes to stop this overloaded mess when the fool in the far left lane crosses in front of everybody and cuts you off to get to his exit ramp. So here we go again - mirror glass down the shirt neck again, there goes the seat of the undies this time, damn driver knocks the plastic nut covers off the steer tire you just jumped over top of and the stupid engineer has figured out a way to postion the tredle valve lines so a snake couldn't get to them!!!!!!!!!

Since we now design trucks that the dealer shops can't even fix, wouldn't it make sense to put air connection points on trucks so we can safetly pull them back to the factory (or junk yard as necessary)

Amen!!!! Case you don't go to church, thats the end of the sermon

Rev. Fuzzy Buzzard signing off!!

See now thats why I looked into it. Who wants to mess around with the air system to try and safely get the truck down the road. Hook, air lines, brake lights and your good to go.

you know you have a crap truck when the mfg puts air lines up front knowing its goin to br towed by a wrecker alot LOL!!!!

Hey Trent, no truck is perfect, even our beloved Macks. Making the towmans life easy is a big plus. Besides you get home faster that way.

Does anybody have an educated guess on the tare of 1970 S/A Diamond Reo day cab? I need to move it from long island to Atlantic City Area and was wondering if my dually and gooseneck flatbed would work.

I think there is one weigh station between plus NY & NJ staties all over. If not, do any of you haulers out there need to vist the Shore? Any help or advice would be appreciated.

Mike

where exactly in long island are you going? Only expressway out there is the Long island expressway (495). There are numerous other major roads like sunrise highway (rt27) or northern boulevard. My advice is to make sure you dont get on any parkways here in NY, no trucks/trailers allowed on them, period (some have VERY low bridges, 9-10 feet and see truckers stuck on em all the time). No weigh stations in NYC or LI BUT I have seen portable weigh stations setup once in a rare while. Dont have any signs of overloading or broken lights etc., cops here in NYC, Nassau & Suffolk are rabbid and will pull you over of they see anything.

Take the outer crossing bridge from NJ and take 440 north till you get to the Staten Island expressway(I278). Take SI expressway East and over the Verazanno Bridge. And take the BQE East (Keep off the Belt Parkway!) Then keep an eye on the signs because after the Kosciusko the BQE forks, right & middle lane goes to the LIE which is what you want. Take LIE east to where ever you need to go (keep out of the HOV lane and left lanes on all highways!). Id try to stay on the major highways because your less likely to run into one of those portable weigh stations. There are other routes but it helps when I know where your going.

Who works in the truck business and gives themself the name " I Hate Trucks"?

A forum troll.

Has anyone ever installed a yoke on the front of a transmission (like say a T2050) and installed it as an auxiliary?

You want to make a 5 speed transmission an auxiliary transmission? Are you trying to make more low gears or trying to mimic a 2 stick 10/15/20 speed? Try a 2 or 4 speed aux box instead, they were made for such jobs. A 2 speed aux can give you 9 or 10 speeds from a 5 speed. 20 from a 4 speed but beware your going to have to make sure the ratios are going to give you smooth progression. Some setups might give you a few gears that go down in ratio as you shift up. I was thinking you could put a 2 speed aux behind a mack 6 speed to mimic the old air shift 12.

TTC Automotive makes 2 and 4 speed aux boxes. You can view the gear ratios and specs etc. Eaton/fuller makes aux trannys as well as mack I think, but I can not find any info on them.

under the scoop should be filter and duct that feeds air to the tip turbine. if you happen to run across a junker with that set-up i want it for my next project. scott

Dont wanna sound dumb, but, what does the front of the hood look like with the scoop?

The Scania engines have an excellent reputation in Europe and typically have a million mile life to rebuild. There's a guy in Southern Minnesota who bought one new years ago, last I saw him he had 1,400,000 miles on it without an engine rebuild, thought he rebuilt the synchronized transmission at about 800,000 miles.

Whats funny is I have seen a number of 70's Mack R's with Scania engines in them (said Scania right on the engine plate). This led me to believe the E9 was possibly a Scania design (Scania had the V8 for a long time). I think Scania is the only truck company with a 16L V8 at present.

I just got a reply from Bendix with a very nice PDF attachment. It shows you a nice diagram, notes, part descriptions, and part numbers! The hookup lets you treat the entire towed vheicle like a trailer including releasing the brakes from the tow truck.

JD2050 asked for some pictures with trailers, thought I'd add a couple more. I also got an ear full from friends about not mentioning the reason for the Studebaker/Chevy paint scheme on the B66 (Jan TotM). To make it as short as possible, I had just finished restoring a 1950 Stude in my shop, the B was in primer and waiting for a color choice. My friend Tom stopped by, the Stude was sitting next to my 96 Chevy PU in the lot in front of the B, he said there are the colors. I painted the cab, doors and hubs with the hood off. I painted the frame, tanks and bumper. Opps, forgot the hood! Oh no, used up all the Stude green, got plenty of dark green left. Looked pretty good all together. Hope the guys in South Jersey let me come back now that I gave TZ his moment in the spotlight.

Its looking good there, paint looks just fine.

Ah I envy you guys living in the country with plenty of property. Living in New York City makes it almost impossible to make room for a good restoration project. We have two shops, one is rented out so useless and the one I am in now has next to no room left in the yard. And my driveway at home is so small a motorcycle is all its good for. Lol maybe I should start cleang house at our shop here, then I might have some room.

I was on Scanias website today and noticed they have a new engine to compeat with the Volvo D-16. It is a 620HP 2212 ft/lbs 16 liter V8! Mack supposedly could not clean up the E9 , yea right . I bet you could get one for repowering a Mack, Its not a true Mack engine but as close to an E9 as you can get

By the way, these are marine engines but same thing for trucks.

When a wrecker tows a tractor trailer, the wrecker's trailer air lines are only used if the truck being towed has a trailer. In that case, the wrecker's air lines are run back to the trailer. You never hook the wrecker's air lines to a towed tractor's air system.

The treadle valve on a tractor is the gateway for air applied to the service brakes. To access the service brakes, you would have to split off from the lines from the treadle to the brakes. Tractors with dual air brake systems would require an even more elaborate setup.

It's somewhat of a moot point, as a towed tractor should only have 1 axle on the ground anyway. An empty tractor in-tow will be easily handled by the wrecker's brakes. If you also have a trailer, the wrecker and trailer's brakes will do what you need.

I more or less wanted to know how the setup works. I have seen many freightliner fl 60's and 70' for the NYC DEP Have those front air connections for towing. Also the old military trucks (dunno bout newer) had the front air lines for towing.

The CL has the RW frame but not with the axle foward.

Did the Titan come from Marmon or did Volvo engineers come up with it on their own?

It wouldnt knock it. It was introduced in 1995 well before volvo had anything to do with mack. Big grille, hood and raised cab to help with cooling in the hot desert of the outback. You need some real good cooling while pulling 170+ ton road trains with a 610hp E9.

Mack hasn't built a hyper long hood truck because the Mack engine is compact and will fit under a normal length hood.

Thats because mack engines are at most 12 liters and about 50 or so inches long. The v8 e9 was compact enough to fit under shorter hoods. The Superliner had a 123 inch long bbc just 5 inches short of the pete 379 127" bbc long hood. The CL Has a 123" BBC and the Volvo VT880 with the D16 has about a 123" bbc. The titan has about a 120+ inch bbc. I bet with the intro of the mp 10 we will se a 120+ bbc. Probably as long as a CL hood.

Ok I have seen a few trucks that have front mounted air hook ups for towing. The idea is that the tow truck can hook air lines to the truck in tow and be able to actuate the brakes on the towed vehicle like a trailer. Sounds interesting but I cant seem to find any diagrams on this setup.

My idea is that you could plumb the supply line to the wet tank to charge the system using some type of special valve that also releases the spring brakes (something like the spring brake valve on trailers). Then the service line could activate a valve that bypasses and mimics the foot treadle. For a tractor you would also have to figure out a way to bypass the trailer supply valve or manually charge the trailer after you charged the tractor in tow.

Any ideas?

wait another year and i think you;ll see mack with a superliner or titan here in the states to replace the cl. it will be powered by the mp10 625 hp engine .you;ll be sorry if you dont.

I hope for the same thing! The grille on the trident/titan/superliner is reminicent of the old superliner grille. Big square grille with MACK across the top. The rawhide is nice but nothing more then a fancy CH. Bring back the superliner name! Take the new cab they have, put a strait hood on it with the titan grille and they could have a flagship truck for vocational or longhaul.