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    NSC standand 11B in Ontario Canada

    in Odds and Ends

    Posted

    The new standard was supposed to be used starting Jan. 01 2014 but they extended it one year , so companies could be better prepared.

    I have a good handle on it now. Thanks BC Mack, you got me pointed in the right direction.

    If case some of you Ontario guys are interested, here is a guideline to the new inspections. The new items are marked with an asterisk *

    Its from the MTO site

    Keith

    Ontario Inspection Guidelines
    Technicians' Activities - Truck

    Below is a high level outline of the inspection activities involved in conducting an annual commercial motor vehicle inspection for the National Safety Code 11B Periodic Commercial Motor Vehicle Inspections (National Standard). The intent of this document is to provide a guideline to assist inspection technicians in understanding the requirements of the national standard. This overview does not represent the inspection itself or decisions made regarding interpretation of the standard.

    Activities listed below are areas / systems of a truck and truck tractor to be inspected annually, focusing on the inspection activities of a technician, it does not include the rejection criteria for the vehicle. Detailed inspection and rejection criteria are contained in NSC11B.

    The asterisk * represents criteria that were not covered by the previous Ontario inspection criteria. All items require a visual inspection where indicated, an ‘operational check’ requires a physical inspection to confirm the item is operating as intended.

    Please Note: To see the details of this inspection see Regulation 611 "Safety Inspection” at the following link: http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/regs/english/elaws_regs_900611_e.htmand copies of the inspection can be obtained for a cost at the Canadian Council of Motor Transport Administrators (CCMTA) at the following link:http://www.ccmta.ca/english/producstandservices/publications/publications.cfm. For further clarifications see Ontario Guidelines for the National Standard.

    A. Inspection items/activities 1. Power Train Visual inspection of the following components/systems:
    1. Accelerator Pedal (operational check)
    2. Fuel System (ON criteria in Reg 611)
    3. Exhaust System
    4. Drive Shaft (may require manual check of u-joints & hanger bearing)
    1. Clutch (operational check) *
    2. Engine/Transmission Mount *
    3. Engine Shut Down (operational check)
    4. Neutral Safety Switch (operational check)

    * Items not required by previous Ontario inspection criteria


    2. Suspension Visual inspection of the following components/systems:
    1. Suspension Attachments
    2. Leaf Springs and Attachments (may require raising the vehicle to unload the spring)
    3. Coil Spring Suspension
    4. Torsion Bar Suspension
    5. Rubber Load Cushion
    6. Tandem Axle Walking Beams
    1. Air Suspension (may require raising the vehicle to unload the suspension)
    2. Air Suspended Non-Driving Axle (operational check)
    3. Self-Steering Axles (operational check & measurement of kingpin condition)
    4. Shock Absorbers

    * Items not required by previous Ontario inspection criteria


    3. Hydraulic Brake System Visual inspection of the following components/systems:
    1. Parking Brakes (operational check)
    2. Dual Brake System Hydraulic Circuit Check (operational check)
    3. Hydraulic System
    4. Hydraulic Brake Leakage & Pedal Reserve (operational check)
    5. Hydraulic Assisted Brake System (operational check)
    6. Vacuum Assisted Power Brakes (operational check)
    7. Vacuum System (operational check)
    1. Vacuum Booster (operational check)
    2. Vacuum Reserve (operational check)
    3. Vacuum Pump (operational check of gauge)
    4. Drum Brakes (requires drum removal in almost all cases, drums to be measured & operational check)*
    5. Disc Brakes (requires rotor thickness to be measured & operational check) *
    6. Proportioning Valve (operational check) *
    7. Anti-Lock Brakes (check of malfunction lamp)*

    * Items not required by previous Ontario inspection criteria


    3A. Air Brakes Visual inspection of the following components/systems:
    1. Air Compressor
    2. compressor Air-Build Time (requires timed test)
    3. Air Governor (operational check)
    4. Low Air Pressure Warning System (operational check)
    5. Air System Leakage (operational check)
    6. Compressed Air Reserve (operational check)
    7. Air Tank and Check Valves (operational check) *
    8. Treadle Valve (operational check)
    9. Trailer Brake Hand Control Valve *
    10. Quick Release Valves (operational check) *
    11. Relay/Limiting/Proportioning Valves (operational check) *
    12. Tractor Protection System (operational check) *
    13. Air System Control Valves *
    1. Air Parking & Emergency Brake Application (operational check)
    2. Air Brake Components
    3. Mechanical Components
    4. Brake Camshafts
    5. Camshaft Rotation (requires specific test process) *
    6. Drum Brakes (requires lining thickness measurements to be taken and recorded) *
    7. Brake Drums (requires drum diameter measurements to be taken and recorded) *
    8. Brake Adjustment (requires pushrod stroke of cam-actuated brakes, or travel of wedge brake lining, to be measured and recorded) *
    9. Disc Brakes (requires rotor and pad thickness to be measured and recorded) *
    10. Anti-Lock Brake System (operational check of malfunction lamp, when OEM equipped) *

    * Items not required by previous Ontario inspection criteria


    4. Steering Visual inspection of the following components/systems:
    1. Steering Wheel Test (operational check)
    2. Travel (operational check)
    3. Steering Linkage (operational check)
    4. NO LONGER REQUIRED
    1. Kingpin Play (requires raising the wheels)
    2. Ball Joints (manual inspection)
    3. Power Steering
    4. Telescopic/Tilt Steering *

    * Items not required by previous Ontario inspection criteria


    5. Instruments and Auxiliary Equipment Visual inspection of the following components/systems:
    1. Fire Extinguisher *
    2. Hazard Warning Kit *
    3. Clutch & Brake Pedal *
    4. Horn (operational check)
    5. Speedometer (operational check)
    1. Indicator Lamps (operational checks)
    2. Instruments
    3. Chain/Headache Rack *
    4. Manufacturer’s Label *

    * Items not required by previous Ontario inspection criteria


    6. Lamps Visual inspection of the following components/systems:
    1. Lamps (operational checks)
    2. Reflex Reflectors
    3. Retro-reflective Markings *
    1. Instrument Lamp (operational checks)
    2. Headlamp Aiming (use aiming screen or equivalent)
    3. Aiming Screen

    * Items not required by previous Ontario inspection criteria


    7. Electrical System Visual inspection of the following components/systems:
    1. Wiring *
    2. Battery
    1. Switches (operational checks)
    2. Trailer Cord *

    * Items not required by previous Ontario inspection criteria


    8. Body Visual inspection of the following components/systems:
    1. Hood (operational check)
    2. Tilt Cab (operational check) *
    3. Air Suspended Cabs *
    4. Vehicle Body
    5. Load Securement Points *
    6. Front bumper
    7. Doors (operational check)
    8. Cab Mount Handle and Step *
    9. Windshield
    10. Side Windows (operational check)
    1. Rear Window *
    2. Frame Rails & Mounts
    3. Sun Visor (operational check)
    4. Rear View Mirrors (operational check)
    5. Seat(s) (operational check)
    6. Seat Belts/Occupant Restraints (operational check)
    7. Windshield Wipers/Washers (operational check)
    8. Heater & Windshield Defroster (operational check)
    9. Fenders or Mud-Flaps

    * Items not required by previous Ontario inspection criteria


    9. Tires and Wheels Visual inspection of the following components/systems:
    1. Tread Depth (requires measurements)
    2. Tread Section of Tire
    3. Sidewalls
    4. Tire Pressure (requires pressure check with gauge) *
    5. Hubs
    6. Wheel Bearings (requires wheel to be raised)
    7. Wheel/Rim (General)
    1. Multi-piece Wheel/Rim
    2. Spoke Wheel/Demountable Rim (requires wheel to be raised & rotated)
    3. Disc Wheel System
    4. Wheel Fasteners (requires each wheel nut to be checked with torque wrench) *

    * Items not required by previous Ontario inspection criteria


    10. Couplers and Hitches Visual inspection of the following components/systems:
    1. Trailer Hitch
    2. No Slack Hitch (operational check)
    3. Fifth Wheel Coupler (may require manual check)
    1. Oscillating Fifth Wheel (manual check)
    2. Permanently Attached Equipment *

    * Items not required by previous Ontario inspection criteria


    NSC standand 11B in Ontario Canada

    in Odds and Ends

    Posted

    BADDOG, from what I have been told, and some of the info I have got from the MTO site, starting Jan. 01 , mechanics are required to perform the annual safety inspections to the new NSC standard 11b. Its a standard that the rest of Canada uses. The main difference will be the measuring of drums, linings, and camshaft rotation. This information has to be kept by the inspection garage that measured them and produced if asked for by the MTO.

    I have been trying to find out everything I can about it because it means a safety will go from a hundred bucks to a thousand bucks, if a mechanic pulls every hub to measure everything. They are saying an hour a wheel plus new wheel seals.

    Unfortunately, no one will say for sure what is expected. Even the MTO inspectors say to read about it on the website, and won't say what they expect.

    There must be some truth to the wheels having to be pulled because shops around me have already started to use the new standard for there inspections.

    It is a fact I know very little about this new standard, and I am just hoping to get enough dialogue going that I could figure it out.

    In the past I have always done things the same as you. Got my truck ready, took it in , and they inspected it. Was easy.

    Keith

    NSC standand 11B in Ontario Canada

    in Odds and Ends

    Posted

    It seems that Ontario is one of the last provinces to implement the National Safety Code in our annual truck and bus safety inspections.

    The only major difference from what I understand, is that drums have to be removed and brake linings and drums have to be measured and documented. It was rumoured that trucks with bud wheels had to have their hubs removed to check bearings. But I can't find any proof of that.

    My question is….

    Is anyone familiar with this? I was thinking if I removed my backing plates to measure my drums and shoes, if that might be acceptable.

    Because all my trucks have dayton wheels (spiders in Australia),I hate to see wheels pulled for no reason. But it might be something I have to accept .

    Hopefully a fellow Canadian can fill me in. I would also be interested in how they do this in other parts of the world.

    Thanks,

    Keith

    e-mailed ex-lax to phone

    in Odds and Ends

    Posted

    Great pics, thanks for sharing.

    I find it interesting that you talk about a record apple harvest. Amazing how the weather affects us all. We set records here in Ontario to, because of the late spring and all the rain we had, one of the worst years in excavating/landscaping. However, I don't know for sure, but I think we had a good apple harvest here also.

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    RD Interior

    in Exterior, Cab, Accessories and Detailing

    Posted

    Thanks for sharing pics of your project.

    Unfortunatley, I don't have any ideas for your interior. I guess I'm not very imaginative, I kinda like original. Or close to it.

    Not saying custom isn't cool, just not my taste .

    Hopefully you keep posting pics of your progress. Its looking good so far.

    Keith

    cant find air box gaskets for 77 r model

    in Engine and Transmission

    Posted

    Ok, everyone should be sitting for this………….this is what happened with me

    As always j hancock has the # right. In my opinion anyway.

    When I buy filter elements from Mack, they started not coming with the gasket. Not usually a big deal because they are usually in good shape.

    My R688 needed the filter gasket ,so I had to order one from Mack.

    The gasket 16MD23 has another # also, not sure if it is the volvo #, its 21A02 It is what you described diggin , 12 holes, aprox. 15 inches O/D

    It cost $ 38.83.

    The filter element 57MD31A cost $ 33.76

    I can't figure this out, I guess its above my pay grade.

    Here's a pic of my air cleaner diggn, hope it helps

    Keith

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