Warpman89 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 hello, i am curious is there anyway to tell if a r model has a v8 without opening the hood? are there any exterior differences? i have noticed that some r model's have a longer hood, is that only if they have a v8? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaddeusW Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 hello, i am curious is there anyway to tell if a r model has a v8 without opening the hood? are there any exterior differences? i have noticed that some r model's have a longer hood, is that only if they have a v8? thanksHi there,The long hood R models were the R700 or RS700. Those models could have a Mack in line 6 cylinder, Mack V8, Cummins, CAT or Detroit Diesel. If it had a Mack V8 it would (should) have a V8 badge on the side. The V8 badge was only for the Mack V8 so a Detroit Diesel 8V71 or Cummins 903 V8 would not have a V8 badge. Other than that there isnt much else from the outside to tell what was under the hood. If you had the exact model number eg. RS797LST.Lets break down the Model number RS797LST:R - R modelS - Steel frame (this is a "western" Mack model designation, for Mack's made in the Hayward, CA plant. L would denote an aluminum frame)7 - Not 100% sure but pretty much means a longer hood97 - Engine code, 97 is for a Mack ENDT866 (I think)L - Light weight components like Aluminum doors.S - Six wheel chassisT - Tractor Quote -Thad What America needs is less bull and more Bulldog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Close Thad: The "L" in the designation denotes lightweight components such as spring hangers, fuel tanks, rear axle carriers, front hubs and several other little items, or none. It was really up to the person ordering the truck.As per your analogy: RS= steel frameRL=aluminum frame"7"= longer hood"XX" = engine callout numbers denoting which engine is original equipment; (97 was an ENDT866 Thermodyne, 95 was an ENDT865 Maxidyne)"L" = lightweight components as mentioned"S" six wheel chassis "T" tractor configuration"XXXXX" serial number of chassis prior to 1980Both of my "RL700LST" series tractors have many of the aluminum components.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B61TENDT711 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 (edited) Has a V-8 ? was it any good ? . . . Mike Edited October 27, 2009 by B61TENDT711 Quote 1953 Studebaker M275. Reo 331 I-6, Spicer 5spd-DD, 6.72 Gears, 11.00R20H tires.1959 Mack B61T. Mack END+T 711 I-6, 2 stick 15spd-OD, 6.38 Gears, 12.00-24J tires.1962 GMC K4500. GMC 379M-V6, SM420-4spd-DD, 5.13 Gears, 8-19.5G tires.1969 AMC AMX. AMC 390 Crossram, borgwarner T-10 4spd, 4.44 Gears, G60-14s Front N50-15s Rear.1975 Mack DM600. 300 Mack 6spd 4.17 gears 445/65R22.5 front n 12.00R20 rear.1976 Arctic Cat Jag2000. 275cc twin, belt drive, steal grips.1977 Ford F350. 351M V-8, 4spd-DD, 4.56 Gears, 245/70R19.5G tires.1988 AMC Jeep MJ. 2.5L I-4, 4spd-DD, 4.10 Gears 215/70R15 front 225/70R15 rear.1992 Trans AM GTA. 406SBC TBI, 4L60E, 3.73 Gears, 245/50R16 front 295/50R16 Rear.1995 GMC K2500 6.5-T, 4L80E, 4.10 gears 7.50-16D tires. 4.56 Gears coming soon.2007 Honda Rubicon 500cc Single, 5spd fluid drive trans, 27x10-12 Front 27x12-12 Rear.Still in search of M52 5 ton tractor, M123A1C 10 ton tractor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 I can't tell you from first hand experience as I've never been a truck driver that has used one of the V8's produced by Mack. I have been told by many they were real "powerhouses" in their heyday, but changing emmisions laws in this country was to their demise in production.Parts are getting scarce and therfore expensive to acquire as of late.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B61TENDT711 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Sounds as tho it held up alright. . .Mike Quote 1953 Studebaker M275. Reo 331 I-6, Spicer 5spd-DD, 6.72 Gears, 11.00R20H tires.1959 Mack B61T. Mack END+T 711 I-6, 2 stick 15spd-OD, 6.38 Gears, 12.00-24J tires.1962 GMC K4500. GMC 379M-V6, SM420-4spd-DD, 5.13 Gears, 8-19.5G tires.1969 AMC AMX. AMC 390 Crossram, borgwarner T-10 4spd, 4.44 Gears, G60-14s Front N50-15s Rear.1975 Mack DM600. 300 Mack 6spd 4.17 gears 445/65R22.5 front n 12.00R20 rear.1976 Arctic Cat Jag2000. 275cc twin, belt drive, steal grips.1977 Ford F350. 351M V-8, 4spd-DD, 4.56 Gears, 245/70R19.5G tires.1988 AMC Jeep MJ. 2.5L I-4, 4spd-DD, 4.10 Gears 215/70R15 front 225/70R15 rear.1992 Trans AM GTA. 406SBC TBI, 4L60E, 3.73 Gears, 245/50R16 front 295/50R16 Rear.1995 GMC K2500 6.5-T, 4L80E, 4.10 gears 7.50-16D tires. 4.56 Gears coming soon.2007 Honda Rubicon 500cc Single, 5spd fluid drive trans, 27x10-12 Front 27x12-12 Rear.Still in search of M52 5 ton tractor, M123A1C 10 ton tractor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 I can't tell you from first hand experience as I've never been a truck driver that has used one of the V8's produced by Mack. I have been told by many they were real "powerhouses" in their heyday, but changing emmisions laws in this country was to their demise in production.Parts are getting scarce and therfore expensive to acquire as of late.RobMe either, but I always wanted to be.And they are - I've had my doors blown off many times by V8 Macks. There's nothing like a V8 Mack with a straight pipe. Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Me either, but I always wanted to be. I've had my doors blown off many times by V8 Macks.There's nothing like a V8 Mack with a straight pipe.Don't really need a muffler as the noise is not objectionable out the stack. It is actually quite quiet.Does sound really good under an overpass, or between buildings.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Don't really need a muffler as the noise is not objectionable out the stack. It is actually quite quiet.Does sound really good under an overpass, going through a tunnel, or between buildings.Robthey definately have a sound all their own. I love to hear one running. Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 As far as looking at the outside its hard to tell if it has a v8 or notthe early R600 models had an option for V8s then in the late 60s I think they only came in the R700 or RS/RL700 models. If the truck had a V8 fromthe factory it would have had a V8 emblem on the hood. on thing to look for is if it has a single stack. alot of the bigger V8s used a 5" exhaust where the Inline 6 had a 4".if it had twin stacks it will be harder to tell as you can run 5" from the turbo to the T pipe under the cab and 4" from the T-pipe to the mufflers. The Stock E9 V8 macks were pretty quiet even without mifflers. I have driven a 440 and 500. the ones I drove spun to 1900RPM and pulled pretty good. you could keep up with new trucks of the same HP all day. the company I drive for had a 2002 pete with a 550 cat and the 440 mack would walk on it up to about 60MPH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 As far as looking at the outside its hard to tell if it has a v8 or notthe early R600 models had an option for V8s then in the late 60s I think they only came in the R700 or RS/RL700 models. If the truck had a V8 fromthe factory it would have had a V8 emblem on the hood. on thing to look for is if it has a single stack. alot of the bigger V8s used a 5" exhaust where the Inline 6 had a 4".if it had twin stacks it will be harder to tell as you can run 5" from the turbo to the T pipe under the cab and 4" from the T-pipe to the mufflers. The Stock E9 V8 macks were pretty quiet even without mifflers. I have driven a 440 and 500. the ones I drove spun to 1900RPM and pulled pretty good. you could keep up with new trucks of the same HP all day. the company I drive for had a 2002 pete with a 550 cat and the 440 mack would walk on it up to about 60MPH.I don't know anything about the E9's, but the ol' 325 and especially the 375s were a "hawse" in their day as they say. Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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