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We once did a job at a aircraft plant changing some fixtures on one of their big gantry mills. They had two identical projects and were crunched on time. They awarded one to us and the other identical project to a union outfit. Two identical jobs, we got ours done in 2 1/2 days, it took the union outfit 6 weeks. I will admit we busted our butt because we had three open days to do it in normal hours. After three days we would have to work 3rd shift. With the motivation of not wanting to work midnights, we got it done. It was still 4 guys for 2 1/2 days vs. 6 union guys for 6 weeks.
Needless to say, when a similar job came up a little while latter, they didn't even call the union outfit.
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Several different manufacturers used the Lanova system. I've got a D19 Allis Chalmers tractor with a Lanova injection system. I don't know a thing about the Lanova Macks but I'm pretty familiar with the ones AC used. They are fairly quiet running and don't have the "diesel knock" other engines do. It's a comparatively slow combustion process is why you don't get the knock. They run smooth as silk when they are right.
They are hard starting and the energy cells in the head can fill with carbon or get pitted and cause problems. New or good used energy cells, if you need them, are pretty hard to locate.
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Be careful with the kids. I saw the aftermath of what happened to a guy operating a old Bobcat without a cab. His head somehow got caught in the lift arms while he was lowering it and it decapitated him.
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6 hours ago, kscarbel2 said:After 5 owners in 12 years, a former Ford glass plant finally has a stable owner
Automotive News / August 1, 2011
Welcome to a huge and until now unwanted factory in the North American auto industry. It is the new home of Carlex Glass in Nashville.
How unwanted was it?
Try five owners in 12 years. Which is remarkable considering that for decades, without interruption, the plant has been supplying windshields and windows for some very popular U.S. light vehicles, among them the Ford F-150 pickup and Escape SUV.
But today it's different. Now that the storm of the recession is over, now that less committed players have vacated the field, Carlex Glass America, the U.S. operating unit of Japan's Central Glass Co., is moving in.
Carlex is one of many established suppliers that aim to turn the wreckage of the recession into opportunity by investing in new technology for the long term.
The Japanese giant couldn't have picked a less likely spot.
The dowdy, half-century-old plant sits on a hill overlooking downtown Nashville. Three brick smokestacks tower overhead, two of which were taken out of operation years ago. Inside, long lines of huge, gothic black machinery resemble locomotives abandoned in a dim train station.
The lights are out over what seem like acres of wooden shelves holding thousands of sheets of dusty glass.
The roof leaks.
New methods, complex shapes
But Carlex thinks this is the starting point for a play to expand its North American market share of windshields and side windows for cars and trucks.
Carlex peered into the neglected behemoth and saw a dusty jewel. It has begun investing $100 million to clean up the plant, modernize its equipment, demolish traces of its obsolete past, boost its capacity and use it to solicit more North American business -- ideally from the Detroit 3.
The company is betting on new technology, including a modern process called press-form. Unlike gravity-sag windshield shaping, the new process will permit greater manipulation of glass and provide the ability to handle more creative vehicle designs. The investment also will allow the plant to make thinner glass, according to customer desires. Thinner glass means less weight, which improves fuel economy.
The state of Tennessee is kicking in more money to help Carlex retrain and update the plant's 450 employees -- a fraction of the 3,500 workers who once produced windshields and windows for Ford Motor Co. there.
"Things are absolutely going to change here," declares Jim Shepherd, Carlex's executive vice president, who with his wife is moving to suburban Nashville from Detroit.
Sitting in his barren industrial office at the plant, with little more than a gray metal desk and a couple of metal-frame guest chairs from the era of black-and-white TV, Shepherd motions around the room. "We're going to knock down these walls. We're going to get away from this 1950s atmosphere."
Carlex will make the plant its North American headquarters, moving personnel there from the Detroit area, along with the suburban Detroit work force of Carlite, its newly acquired aftermarket auto-glass company.
"This place has been neglected, and we're going to fix that," Shepherd says. "The employees here might be a little jaded and uncertain about us, having been through so many owners who wanted to get rid of the business. But they will soon see we're serious.
"The biggest difference for us is that we're in the glass business. The others who came before weren't. They had their hands full with bigger concerns. Our only concern is making glass and windshields, and we believe this is the place to do it."
That, more or less, is the status of the 54-year-old glass plant.
But how the factory ended up at this juncture is a story that mirrors almost every trend that has come and gone in U.S. auto manufacturing for the past quarter century.
The industry's evolution from Eisenhower-era Big 3 hegemony to the Japanese invasion of the 1980s, the U.S.-Japanese joint-venture supplier bubble, the automaker divestitures of parts operations, the rise of megasuppliers in the late 1990s, the private-capital supplier wave -- it's all there in the run-up to Carlex's acquisition of the plant in April.
It all came and went.
The operation, originally created as the Ford Glass Plant, already was three decades old when Gary Casteel moved from Muscle Shoals, Ala., to work there as a young pipe fitter in 1988. As the in-house producer of much of Ford's North American windshields and windows, it was one of the biggest auto glass plants in the industry, with 1.8 million square feet under roof.
In the 1950s and 1960s, three enormous float lines heated the sand to 3,000 degrees in ovens that burn so bright they can only be viewed through hand-held black glass panels.
One of the Nashville plant's most notable features is that, unlike most glass factories, it houses the entire process. Workers bring raw sand in through one door, melt it and cook it into flawless glass. They then shape the glass, finish it, package it and ship complete windshields out the other door to vehicle assembly lines.
"I really don't know of any other plant in America that does it all," Casteel says.
Casteel was elected to the plant's UAW Local 737 bargaining committee in 1990. By that time the industry was under unfamiliar new pressures. Detroit was struggling through its second recession in a decade, and domestic market share was slipping away to import brands. Ford was eager to find new cost reductions and operating efficiencies, even if it meant divesting itself of some of its large in-house parts operations -- an issue the UAW resisted.
Today Casteel is director of the UAW's Region 8, a vast union territory stretching from Mississippi, Florida and South Carolina up through Tennessee and Virginia and into Pennsylvania, Maryland and Delaware. "That plant always ran well," Casteel says. "We always had good labor relations."
Japanese partner
But Ford's component management team informed the union in 1990 that the glass operation needed to reach beyond Ford business. A new corner of the industry was rapidly emerging in the form of Japanese automakers assembling vehicles in U.S. plants. Nissan Motor Co. was expanding car and truck production just a few miles away in Smyrna, Tenn. Honda Motor Co., Toyota Motor Corp. and others were opening assembly plants around the lower Midwest and Southeast.
But to gain glass business from such Asian transplants, Ford would need to form a separate joint-venture supply company in a deal with its large Japanese competitor, Central Glass.
"They told us: "We don't want to do anything to hurt the glass plant here,'" Casteel recalls. "But they said we really need to do this deal with Central to get more business."
The Ford-Central hookup was named Carlex, and the venture opened a separate state-of-the-art window fabricating plant in Vonore, Tenn., on the state's eastern edge.
Unwanted orphan
By the end of the 1990s, the industry was evolving again. This time, megasupplier mania was in the air. Individual component suppliers were merging and being acquired to roll up into multipart module and system supplier groups. The larger ones hoped to provide a sort of one-stop shopping for automakers, responsible for entire vehicle systems, including anything from a car's rolling chassis to its brakes and tailpipe and steering parts.
Amid great hoopla, General Motors spun off its vast global parts operations into an independent publicly traded entity, Delphi Corp. Ford similarly spun off its huge parts operations, including the Nashville glass plant, into a public megagroup dubbed Visteon Corp. [huge mistake]
Delphi went public in 1999 and Visteon in 2000 with visions of a bright future. But the ventures soon collapsed. In 2005, Delphi filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. Visteon followed in 2009.
By way of restructuring, Visteon identified 23 unwanted properties and business segments to unload -- among them, the Nashville glass plant. That decision in 2005 pushed the windshield factory off to new ownership by Automotive Components Holdings LLC, a safeguarding umbrella that sought yet another new owner.
A former Automotive Components Holdings manager, who asked not to be named, said the group's sole function was to "hold" and operate the glass plant with the other unwanted plants until viable buyers could be found.
Casteel also lent his time to finding a buyer for the plant.
"We approached everybody," he says.
"Nobody wanted it. The problem we encountered was that the only people who considered it were just after its book of Ford business. They thought they could move the business into their own plants and then close Nashville. We weren't going to let that happen."
Private equity buyer
The buyer who finally emerged in April 2007 was hardly a familiar auto industry name.
Robert Price, a wealthy investor from Tulsa, Okla., had made his fortune in commercial real estate and oil and gas investments. According to press reports at the time, Price was at least partly motivated by his desire to save the jobs at Ford's other glass factory in Tulsa. The older Nashville plant, along with a third glass operation in Juarez, Mexico, simply came with the package.
Price entrusted the operations to a newly formed entity first called simply Glass Products, and in 2008 renamed Zeledyne LLC. Zeledyne management drew from Ford's ranks of component executives, and the group took possession of the plants in 2008.
The deal wasn't unique; Price was part of a trend sweeping the supplier industry. Private investment companies were acquiring distressed parts makers at bargain prices, running them with independent management teams and hoping to use private capital to improve their profit picture.
Efforts to speak with Price or other members of the venture were unsuccessful.
But Price's timing couldn't have been worse. By mid-2008, the U.S. economy was teetering. By the third quarter, a banking crisis had locked up the capital markets, threatening business plans in all industries. By 2009, Zeledyne was frozen in place, along with most of the rest of the auto industry. Although the new team invested in Nashville enough to keep it operating, by 2010, the plant was again for sale.
Fresh investment at last
Carlex's Shepherd declines to say how much Central paid for the Nashville plant this year, noting that its acquisition did not include the Tulsa or Juarez factories. It did include Zeledyne's aftermarket glass business, Carlite.
Casteel believes the Japanese owner is in a good position to take the plant into new business deals. After 50 years of operation and more than 20 years of soliciting outside business, the plant no longer is owned by Ford.
It no longer is owned by a supplier in financial trouble. It no longer is owned by a private investor with an unproven track record. It no longer is being starved for capital improvements. It no longer is in jeopardy of being closed.
"We think we can help them get into GM and Chrysler now," Casteel says.
"These guys are serious global players. And they need this source of glass. I'm pretty excited about the future there. We've all been through a lot with that plant."
As I said, the union leaders ( Casteel ) has nothing but praises to say, all the while the people I know that worked there tell a very different story. I don't disagree that $30 per hour could be considered overpaid for what they did but $10 per hr for skilled workers that had 15+ years with the company?
Back during the '80s and '90s it was the typical big union plant. Overpaid workers that did absolutely nothing, having to call a electrician to plug in a extension cord, and having to call the janitor to pick a broom up that was left in the isle. The article alludes to that, 450 workers doing what it used to take 3,500 to do, so in a sense they did this to themselves.
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Back during the heat of the last election we were doing some work in a TVA (big union) coal plant that was being closed directly because of the actions of the Obama administration. I talked to several that weren't at all happy about loosing their jobs and blamed Obama but you'd still be surprised at how many "union for Obama" bumper stickers you saw in the parking lot. That was then and this is now, I'm thinking when the layoff slips started getting passed out reality started setting in and they are changing their tune.
We had a local Ford glass plant that sold out. A friend of mine went from making close to $30 a hr to $10. All the union would offer is to just be glad you still have a job (but keep sending in those dues). My friend walked. The worst part about it was before all this went down the company was offering $20K+ buyouts to people that would just quit but the union was telling everybody to just hold on and things would work out. Not only did he get the huge cut in pay, he walked with nothing because he didn't take the buyout when he had the chance.
I have several friends that were once big union supporters and would vote a straight democrat ticket just like the union told them to. Every one I've talked to is voting Trump the time around and a couple are campaigning for him.
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In the last few years the rank and file union members are getting screwed while the union leaders live high on the hog. For a long time the members fell for the crap the leaders are spewing but they are starting to wise up.
We had a large local company go on strike a couple of years ago. The leaders talked them in to striking, they were on strike for 2 months, and finally went back to work for less money than they were offered before the strike. They lost 2 months of work and a raise, while the leaders never missed a paycheck.
A lot of the rank and file still praised the leaders for their hard work but quite a few finally saw the light. All the union fat cats care about is to keep you sending in the dues.
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Cruz should have stayed home. With all the bad blood that happened during the primary, he apparently is still sore about it. He would have been much better off to just have stayed home instead of asking for a speaking position and then not endorse Trump.
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On 7/17/2016 at 4:26 AM, mrsmackpaul said:
would a two speed diff be a easier option would give you a lot lower first gear run wires up to the gear stick tail shaft most likely wont have to be changed and parts are easy to get
Aux trans are getting hard for parts these days and every one wants what you are chasing, under, direct and over drive and they are pretty much rare as hens teeth out here now
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I tend to think this may be the best option. Swapping out to a 2-speed rear should be a lot easier and cheaper than trying to shoehorn a auxiliary box in there. A 2-speed rear should be pretty easy to locate fairly cheap.
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Anybody here a member of The Truckers Report? I signed up there awhile back just to see what was going on. I've come to the realization that if the membership there is a snapshot of the trucking industry as a whole, we are in big trouble. I've never seen a bigger bunch of whiners and just downright idiots that claim to be professional owner operators. There are some people there that know what they are talking about but most you wonder how they have enough sense to get out of bed in the morning, much less operate a truck and stay in the black. I've gotten to where I just go there for comic relief and just shake my head at some of the stuff posted.
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On July 14, 2016 at 11:34 PM, kscarbel2 said:
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At the end of the day, my position remains that If one could buy a Ford F-Series pickup with the Dodge's Cummins 6.7L ISB and Chevy/GMC's Allison 1000 transmission, and Dana axles, you'd have a nice truck......a keeper.
I think we have a winner.
The IFS is the only down side I had with the Chevy. I have found straight axles to be much less problematic than IFS. Lots more moving parts on a IFS truck to wear out and break.
as far as the big front ends, I think it may have something to do with trying to stuff bigger radiators in them. They've got them running awfully hot these days ( my Chevy runs at 210). It used to be that fuel mileage was paramount, now fuel mileage takes a back seat to emissions.
While we are griping, what really bugs me are all the different tire sizes these days. My truck has 17" and the wife's Suburban has 20". What happened to the good old days where you just had small, medium, and large (14,15, & 16). I guess Chevy started screwing with that years ago with the 16.5. I once spent a couple of hours trying to get a spare tire mounted on a wheel I found, I finally realized I was trying mount a 16" tire on a 16.5" wheel. I threw the wheel in the scrap iron pile so to not run into that mistake again.
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21 hours ago, kscarbel2 said:
Using a Tennessee zip code:
Ram 2500 Tradesman 4x4 crew cab short bed 5.7L 6-spd auto MSRP $30,824 with cash-back incentives
Ram 2500 Tradesman 4x4 crew cab short bed 6.7L ISB 6-spd manual or auto MSRP $40,420 with cash-back incentives
F-250 XL Super-Duty 4x4 crew cab short bed 6.2L 6-spd auto MSRP $38,780
F-250 XL Super-Duty 4x4 crew cab short bed 6.7L 6-spd auto MSRP $47,260 [ridiculous]
Chevy 2500HD 4x4 crew cab short bed 6.0L 6-spd auto MSRP $38,890 (includes $2,000 incentive)
I regret that Ford and GM no longer offer a standard duty 3/4 ton truck. Not everyone wants are needs the mass. The 1997-1999 Ford F-250 (7,700 GVW), a variant of the then-new F-150, was all many people need.
The Chevy listed is basically what I got. I think the sale price was $36K and change, was right at $40K by the time you added TTL.
Even though my previous truck was a '98 Dodge Cummins and I liked it, I didn't even price a Dodge when I was shopping. My Dad had a Dodge Gasser and I wasn't impressed and the new diesels have too much emissions and electronics crap on them nowadays for my taste in a pickup. Lets face it, not many people buy a Dodge for the styling or the great body, they buy it for the Cummins engine.
I'm not brand loyal, I've owned them all. After doing much research on all the brands, I decided that the Chevy was this best suit for me at the time, all things considered. While there is no denying that the powertrain and other moving parts are leaps and bounds better as far as longevity is concerned, they don't build the rest of the truck nearly as tough as they used to.
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On 6/12/2016 at 4:27 PM, dogg rescue said:
I have always been a Chevy guy, but Ford should have a rebuttal ad that shows what a rust bucket the Chevy will look like in 10 years!
The corrosion properties of the aluminum Ford should not be overlooked. Aluminum will also corrode, just not as back as steel.
Around here we don't get much snow but the state has gotten into the habit of dumping loads of salt and brine water on the roads when there is forcasted the slightest chance of snow, without regard to the damage they are doing to the vehicles that drive through it. Most people don't care as they trade every 3-4 years anyway but for people like me that keep them for 10+ years, I'd like for my truck not to fall apart around me.
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I never was a fan of all the bells and whistles. I was shopping for a 2015 Chevy 2500, crew cab, 4X4. Price went from mid-30s to over 70K. All they had on the lot was 50K and up. I told them I didn't need all that crap. They ended up finding me one in the upper 30s without all that useless stuff that doesn't do a darned thing to help it haul a load down the road.
At least Chevy does have a WT (stands for work truck) trim package offering.
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I never understood why they always show 1/2 ton pickups in the work truck ads. If you are buying a work truck, you need 3/4 ton minimum. I guess the ads are actually aimed at homeowners that the most they will ever haul is garbage to the dump. It works with them because they think they are buying a actual work truck, they aren't. They are buying a modern day El Camino, a car with a bed.
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Well I did a little bit of investigating and UPS claims liability, image, and secret tech in the trucks as to why they destroy them. I call a BS on all accounts.
Anybody knows you aren't legally liable for a used truck you sell. I don't buy the image deal either because all you'd have to do is paint it or have that as a stipulation of purchase. And does anybody actually believe their trucks have secret technology?
I also find it odd that they go to great lengths to remove any reference to the brand of the truck, although I've been seeing them slipping on this a little lately.
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UPS is like this. Our local scrap yard gets some of the UPS contracts. I've seen them drive the trucks to the yard to be scrapped, good decent trucks with new tires.
UPS's agreement states that not so much as a tail light lense can be salvaged. Many times they will have a UPS representative on site to witness the destruction. They take a hole saw and saw through the sidewall of the tires, some of them look brand new.
I don't know for sure why they do this but a guy told me that it's a agreement UPS has with the manufacturers. They sell them the trucks at such a great deal and UPS agrees to destroy them when they are finished as to not flood the market with trucks. This doesn't make a lot of sense to me as it's got to cost UPS millions.
My wife's uncle drove for UPS. He said they had a roll of duct tape and some black plastic in all the trucks. The directive was that if they were ever in a accident and not injured, they were to cover up all the UPS decals. Like anybody would be fooled by a big brown truck with the name covered up. They do have some strange ways.
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On July 1, 2016 at 11:18 PM, Timmyb said:
And tesla state that the driver is ultimately responsible. So what's the point of an autonomous vehicle that needs the driver to be 100% alert at all times? Why not just buy a normal car?
I agree. This could actually more dangerous than a normal car.
You'd be more prone to fall asleep or otherwise not paying attention if you are just sitting there monitoring the autopilot and not actually engaged in the driving.
These things are just a novelty at this point. Just something you can brag to your friends that you have a car with autopilot.
Tesla says they've sold 20,000 of these things. That's a whole lot of them running around to watch out for.
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At the risk of getting flamed, I really liked the DC Autocar the best.
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Filters are relatively cheap, if there were any question at all about them I'd trash them. Last thing I'd want is rust introduced into the fuel, oil, or air.
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I just watched this movie for the first time in a long time today. I did notice the B and the DC Autocar, I never had paid that much attention before. There were also several DM and R.
It got my curiosity up so I did a search and found this thread.
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In the Spicer 1241, my problem bearing was where the input and mainshaft go together. I don't see how you could change it out with anything else without some major machine work. There just isn't enough room to put anything else.
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I know of a couple of people that own AL Fords and I wasn't impressed with the strength of materials.
Of course I own a 2015 Chevy and it's steel bed is pretty light also. Two days after I got it, I had a cooler in the back and had to get on the brakes hard. It bent the front of the bed almost into the cab. It bent so easily I pulled it back out (as good as I could) by hand. It's still not perfect but when I added the toolbox it covered it up. I guess the bottom line is they don't build anything like they used to.
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We call them both tags around here. About the only time I hear pusher is on forums like this.
It does make sense that a tag axle would tag along behind but if you say pusher around here people will just look at you funny.
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On June 8, 2016 at 9:43 AM, david wild said:
Don't run Aux trans in high side with heavy load, they won't hold up, direct and under for loads, over for running light and empty, there is a bearing in there that is too light. been there done that.
Yep, I just got finished rebuilding a Spicer 1241c where that bearing was trashed and took the mainshaft and input shaft along with it ($1,500 for the two shafts, $20 for the bearing).
Also, you'll notice when you take the top off that the OD gear is about half the width of all the others.
Could Trump expose another UAW disconnect?
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On the aircraft job I mentioned above, we got paid the same amount as the union outfit. So they made the same amount of money working 6 weeks as we did working 2 1/2 days, now who seems like the smart one? Bust your butt, get the job done, and move on to the next one.