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You can take it to a Mack dealer and thay can call Mack and have a "throttle responce file " turned on and reflash and download both ECM's. We do it all the time, helps out with the "deadspots" between shift. We only charge about an hour and a half labor and no parts for this.

The only time both lights come on is for low coolant, (except for 2008 and up DPF equipped Macks). Could be a coolant sensor wire shorted in the harness on the engine.

The 395C version of the MP7 puts out 1560 lb-ft of torque while the 405E and 405M only put out 1460 and 1480 lb-ft of torque. Look at the sticker on your valve cover and see what you have now.

Look for a triangle shaped grey plug with only 3 post/wires in it. It will be coming out of the firewall on the driver side and going down. It will have a yellow and green wire in it. On some trucks it also runs on top of the tranny for hooking up a auto tranny ECM. I have seen this plug on top of the trans corrode and loose connection and truck just idles at 900rpm with no throttle responce and 6-4 code active. Also unplug engine and vechicle ECM and check for corrosion on pins.

I would love to see a picture of this turbo!The mounting flange is a tad diffrent on vgt style turbo! Doubt it would even fit.If you have a waste gated turbo and you have replaced it with a standard turbo the result is the same if the engine sees any more than 33 psi boost it will derate!In this case you (MAY) be able to remove the sensor from the manifold and plug the hole and install the boost sensor in a plastic bag on the fire wall so the puter never sees the boost! down side is your boost gauge wont work!Put in a real gauge

I would love to see a picture of this turbo!The mounting flange is a tad diffrent on vgt style turbo! Doubt it would even fit. I'd like to see that as well. I forgot the VGT turbo had a very different bolt pattern.

With no VGT position sensor (silver round thing on turbo) to hook-up, the engine ECU has no way to see the turbo vain position so it derates the engine, 4-5 code active . Dont know any way around this except to put the correct turbo on.

press and hold #3 and #6 presets at same time for 3 seconds. radio will beep once then use the + and - to set the time. Once time is set them press the power button and the radio will beep and your are done.

As fjh said, Mack has a service bulliten SB214024 on how to solve this problem. It moves your existing breather canister ontop of the front valve cover. I can fax you a copy if you want.

KELMACK I HAD A CAM PUT INTO MY 01 CX-613 VISION ALSO BACK IN 07. They told me I need to have an overhead run every 100,000 miles however alot of others on here recommend every 50,000. It cost me 6400.00 for the cam bearing kit, new bolts in the exhaust manifold and to have the heads pressure checked and have all the freeze plugs replaced. Warnig make sure they DO NOT REUSE THE BOLTS FOR THE HARMONIC BALANCER/MAIN CRANK PULLEY. A week after I got the truck back the harmonic balancer broke all the bolts and fell off. Now the dealer paid to have me towed and for all parts and labor....GOD BLESS MACK TRUCKS AND NEXTRANS of Birmingham, AL. . However it shouldn't have been necessary.By the way double check that they tighten every thing back and didn't leave any bolts out . I had one bolt missing on an A/C bracket and the air cleaner mount was loose as well as 2 or 3 hose clamps. Good luck.

P.S. my truck has a 427 E-TECH ECONODYNE.

The torque on thoses damper bolts are only 45 lbs. Most techs just stick an impact gun on them and over torque them and then they fail. We have done it here more than once. Now everyone here knows the correct torque.

I WOULD SUGGEST PUTTING A NEW BALANCER ON THE TRUCK THEY ARE NOT THAT HIGH THEY ARE ONLY GOOD FOR ABOUT 500,000 THE SHOP MAN WILL TELL YOU HES NEVER HEARD OF SUCH THING BUT YOU WILL NOTICE A DIFFERNCE IN THE SMOOTHNESS OF THE ENGINE AND IT WONT BE AS HARD ON YOUR CLUTH

A Big +1 on that. A new damper will help to keep 3-4 and 3-2 timing fault codes from happening. The newer dampers are also bigger in diameter and will fit all ETECHS style engines 1999 and up.

no turn signals on a 2008 chu613. Turn signal switch replaced , flasher replaced , power to flasher. when new flasher installed both side of flasher are hot , no flashing lights. Possible body control module?

We have all kinds of problems with the turn signal switch and flashers on the "U" style trucks. Mostly the flasher, make sure you are using a orignal replacement flasher. I had a guy put an cheap one in a new CHU and it melted the fuse panel, BIG $$$$ mistake. I have also replaced the turn signal switch on several trucks. Make sure you get the correct replacement part# as as trucks with the "Guard Dog "cluster display take a different part # than the standard display. Good Luck

If these were the new "SCR" engines it would be possible due to very little "EGR" being used and the HP could be bumped up. 4 years ago alot of the engineers said the "SCR" engines would probably not even have the EGR system on them.

Quick question,

Is this on the original Mack Chassis or the Volvo cornerstone chassis?

I think its the Mack chassis due to the CV being around before the Volvo takeover. The CT frames/chassis dont seem to have this problem.

1 out of 6 CV's I've checked has had a cracked frame rail in that area. Most always on the bottom side. Most guys just go have it weled back up. All the cracks I've seen were no more than an 1 1/4 inch long. I called our District Service Manager about this on some "out of warranty" repairs and there is no extended warranty with this failure.

My buddies brother has an 1989 CH613 with a E-6 4 valve head engine. He complains that truck just started blowing oil out of dipstick tube. Engine does not seem to have much blow-by when hot. We made sure dipstick part# and oil level were correct. We replaced rubber hose on blow-by tube and removed valve covers and blow-by cross over and cleaned out . We did notice engine has non-oiling rocker arms and rockers were alittle gummed up. Engine runs great. Truck is only used to to pull flat bed with dozer about once every 2 weeks. I only work on MP-7 and MP-8 stuff here at work and have forgotten almost all stuff on the older engines. What do you guys think could be the problem. Thanks

The #1372 was built in june of 1993, the #4272 was built in january of 1996 and the #3230 was built in july of 1995. All have the E-7 350 HP engine and all have same series of Mack rear axles. They all also have the same 107 series Mack transmission. The Mack web site might have the information of a Dealer in Mexico.

thanks for the link bts-4120, those injectors arent that bad. about 600 and my old ones will take care of them. and thanks mackpro-68 for all that info. my truck is a 2001 so by your info that makes it a ccrs right? what does ccrs mean anyway? When you say a download from mack, can someone with a handheld thing that sets top end limits and stuff do that (( like a friend at a trucking company running macks )) or is it something more technical than that. I street race cars and I do my own programming on cars with a laptop so I'm not a stranger to flashing a computer I just dont know if his programmer will go the depth needed to do what youre talking about. The reason I'm trying to advoid the mack dealership is because the one close to me isnt one of the cool ones thats into making things bigger better and faster, they are more like "" be glad you have 400 and go away "" so I need to be able to do most of this myself. The wastegated turbo you speak of, is the wastegate electronic or mechanical? Hopefully mechanical because once again thats easy. And the other replys about gears and trans, I have a fuller 9 spd. rtx14609 sittin on tall 24's and its not fast on top end only about 80mph tached out so im guessin its got lower geared rears but i havent looked at the tag yet. I want to swap the back box on the trans to make it a 13spd so maybe I can keep the tach higher in the upper gears. Mackpro-68, on the cars we download files and flash them to the computer but you said they fax you what you need so is it just some values to change in the computer or is it more complicated than that. I know I seem like a little kid that needs some riddlin but I'm just very excited to know that there is hope and it is something that the average person can do without having to give up half your savings account. The last six of my vin is 133939 if you could tell me more about what i have and maybe the part numbers for what injectors and the turbos you were recommending, normal and wastegated. Would the injectors bts-4120 linked me to be good ones? They say stage3, so what boost levels should I shoot for with those. Also will the bigger turbos breathe through the stock air cleaner canister? I'm very happy to find people that will shed light on this subject instead of just telling me to be happy with what I have. Thanks a million to everyone.

The reflashing and downloads have to be done by a dealer who is hooked direct to the Mack mainframe computer(pretty much every dealer is). I pulled up your truck and its not a CCRS engine, its just a regular ETECH, the bad thing about that is if you want to go any higher that a 400 HP you gotta pull the camshaft out and install an offset keyway on the cam gear or it will overheat bad in the summer time( we know cause we tried it). The good thing about the regular ETECH is to go to 460HP you dont need a wastegate turbo just a bigger regular style one . I first would run a hose (1/4" plastic) to the intake manifold (1/8 pipe plug port) and put a low pressure guage ( 0-50 psi) in the cab and pull a load and at full boost you should have 21-27 psi of turbo boost ( 25-30 would be great). We see alot of blown out intake manifold gaskets on these motors(around #1) Your truck was sold and was owned by someone close to our area.

our mack CHR select 1994 looses power in the higher gears.

we changed the filters and drained the oil.

at the moment we are getting the injector checked out,

but so far they dont know either.

any suggestions and ideas greatly appreciated!

tony

I assume this CHR has a Cummins and your outside of the USA? I would like to see pics of your CHR and how they put the Cummins in there.

You can have it upgraded to a 427 or 460 HP. If its a 2001 and the engine is a CCRS style ETECH all it takes is the bigger turbo and injectors and a download for Mack. We do HP upgrades all the time. If its a 2000 or older with a regular style ETECH you have to change the camshaft keyway or it will overheat. We are a Mack dealer and when a customer wants to up the HP we fax a form to Mack with the truck info on it and what HP we want then Mack faxes us back with what parts and part#s to change. On the CCRS style ETECHs the injectors are the same on the 427 and 460 HPs. The turbo on the 427 is just a bigger one than you have now but the 460 HP usually call for a wastegate style turbo and is a few $$$ more. Most customers around here just do the 427 upgrade. Matter of fact we are doing one right now. Its a 2001 Cx613 vin 0142** with a 330-350 split HP that we are upgrading to a 427HP. Just a turbo, injectors and a download and its ready to go. Good Luck.

I'm pretty sure the MP-8 didnt come out till 2008. 2006 model CHN- CXN's had the ASET version of the ETECH engine and it does have issues with exhaust manifold studs breaking, leaking EGR coolers and a few turbo actuators , however the heart of the engine( block, heads and crank) are still great and will last over a million miles. The cam issue has mostly been solved.

Mack dealer has to reprogram Vecu to clear password. We do it all the time. Should cost no more than 1 hr of labor, at least thats what we charge to do it .

The only time we see "turbo wheel speed code" 6-2 is if the wire on the sensor is rubbed and shorting out or the impeller shaft bearings in the turbo are going out and the shaft is moving away from the sensor. Are you sure its 6-2 code and not an 4-5 code(turbo actuator)? If your turbo part# starts with a 631GC5176**** then you have one of the newer style turbos on there. If the part# is a 631GC5171**** then its a wonder it hasn't went out already. If the truck had the old style(5171 series) turbo on it when it was new and someone changed it to the newer style (5176 series) and didnt do the software update in the ECU then that can cause all kinds of strange low power complaints. The boost pressure relief valve I was talking about is on the pressure side of the turbo/intake manifold and if its going bad it will drop turbo boost pressure.

On the turbo boost drop problem , check the boost pressure relief valve thats screwed into the intake manifold elbow. Its the valve that has a pipe that comes off of it and goes into the exhaust pipe behind the turbo. We have seen alot of those go bad on the 2004's. the spring wears through the end of the valve. The came out with a new version part#691GC318C

We have 2 new 2009 Mack GU7 13 model straight trucks. They have mixer boxes on them for feedtruck operation in our feedlot. They have the MP7-405M engines.

We are having a lot of truble with having to regenerate or "burnout" once to twice a day.

These normally take 30 to 40 minutes to do. When you do 2 or 3 of these a day, production is slowed considerably.

Due to the stop and go type of running... our feed trucks can not maintain a constant speed for a long enough period of time to do a regeneration on the go.

Does anyone know of a solution for this problem??

We are very fed up with Mack on this problem..... they pretty much have a "Don't care!" attitude.

They have not been able to help us with a remedy.

According to this site: Mack offers 2 different DPF systems. Fleetgaurd and Emcon.

Appears that the Emcon system would work for our application. The Emcon would allow us to do a regeneration while on the move.

But, according to our Mack service tech. The Emcon system is not available on our model of truck, it is use more in the cab over styles popular in the trash industry.

Can any Mack service personel out there help us with this problem??

Or anyone have any experience with these regeneration problems?

Please help!! We are fed up with this problem

Sorry, for the double post.... my other post was not getting much attention.

Thanks.

We have same problem with our State Road Dept GU's, These guys drive 5 miles the set idle for an hour then repeat. So the truck nevers gets to rundown the road long enough to do a regen, the drivers are then required t do a parked regen but this takes 30-40 mins. and they usually dont wait for it to complete then they have to bring it in for a service regen with our laptop. There is a setting for a "manual moving regen" in the ECM that could be turned on , but I dont know if that would help. I would call the Mack One Call and the dealer and complain. The Dealer has an DSM "distric service manager" and can sometimes "make things happen". You dont want the EMCON system on the MR and LE trucks, its horrible. On the normal road use, the DPF's on the CXU,CHU and GU seem to work great. Today I am replacing a DPF filter on an EMCON unit with 600 miles on it, plugged soild and truck wont run. Good luck and keep complaining to Mack till they do something.

Have a truck on the side of the road. Shows a fault code 24. Can anyone help me with this? 2003 Mack with 460

Transmission temp sensor, usually the plug on the harness at the sensor bad or the harness as it runs over the top of the trans to the main harness.