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Everything works, some parts are rusted. Pump needs a little work and so does engine, nothing I can't fix though. I got it as a present, wanted a road tractor, but this is just as good! Can't wait to gussy her up

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Geez ...How do I get on that persons give a gift list.

What's a muscian ?

It would be good to save the data plates from them.

My B-20

I like it !

A B-60 series for a school bus? That would be quite heavy for a school bus.

It must have been for some hefty kids.

CKD means Complete Knock Down truck. It was a complete truck that was sent somewhere as a big kit and built at the destination.

I am not sure on the Forward Control but might be the term for something like a bus chassis where you got the drivetrain and the front sheetmetal with a cowl and a school bus body was then built on it.

I have read about CKD units and thought that they were all for export as that was the way it was sometimes done. There are pictures of trucks that were shipped overseas with the parts all packed in large boxes. I remember a parts man at a Mack dealer showing my father a new truck - I think it was an F model, all in parts at a Mack dealer and I thought that it was a complete truck but was young then and afterward thought that it might have been a glider kit. Were CKD units sold to U.S. dealers that way?

http://www.brockwaytrucks.org/

If it is in condition to restore yet, that short model should be desirable to someone, they are not often seen.

Sheller-Globe was who made the R,U, and DM cabs for the Mack Co.

Believe it or not the "F" model cab was actually made by the Mack Co. in Allentown out of parts stamped out by the Budd Co.

This was, I think I'm right about this, the only cab that was ever built in house.

I remember going to the Mack Co. in around '73 or '74 and seeing them assembling the cabs.

Ron

The G model cab was said to have been built by Mack also.

The owner said they ran good but he bought them, drove them home and parked them. He told me that when we pick them up, plan on spending the day because he had lots to show us. He said he had over a hundred farm tractors in his collection.

So what else did you see there ?

Glad to see her saved.

What a B-53 is?

I mean in relation to B-61.

According to the Montville book, it was a lightweight mixer truck chassis. It appears to have been the forerunner of the DM600. There was a short version - the B57.

ALEX....THX...MY GUY WHO DID BODY & PAINT CUSTOM BLENDED IT, I THINK ITS BASED ON AN OLD GM COLOR..VERY PALE GREEN

A color like that was popular on the early 50's Chevrolet's

The reason there is a mixture is that when a component is designed new, normally the manufacturers design it for metric fasteners. If it is a part they used before they started using metric, it is inch sized. If they buy an off-the-shelf item from a vendor, it might be inch sized.

The quicker things get changed to all metric, the better. But it will be difficult to switch over for some things. There are metric sized tires, but they go on inch sized rims. Metric sockets that go on 3/8 and 1/2 drivers. And a 2x4 stud or a 4x8 sheet of plywood will be hard to change.

Ask the guy what he did to detune it.

Don't take the book as being gospel. Those books usually have errors. My guess is that the B70 long hood is mislabled.

The tens series numbers were the gross weight rating according to the John Montville Mack book. B-30 series was in the area of 30,000 pounds, B-40 - 40,000, etc. They do not always follow that, but it was the general intent originally. The next digit was the general model of the truck.

A recent thread with more information:

http://www.bigmacktrucks.com/index.php?/topic/33285-n-model-mack-fire-trucks/

If you say so .....

These were built by Dodge with FWD noses for a new car hauler. They did this so the engine was accessable with the tractor mounted car rack.

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That may have been the case with the upper picture, I have seen that one before and I think it was shop built by an auto transporter. The standard C model was also used for auto carriers. The supports were placed so the fenders would swing.

The lower photo was originally one of the Clark Transport Trucks. They wanted the conventionals so the upper rack would be lower.

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Construction (off road, pit) style fenders on an LT - that is unusual. Possibly they were put on to replace damaged or rusted out originals.

Here's a before picture. 3rd day at the gym 45 mins cardio and 2 hour strength training

Not exactly a lard-ass.

Where are you trying to be??? The exercise is good, but you are not a half pound overweight !

Compared to the ATCA show ATHS is far more expensive. Seems like they are striving for the "big boys" and don't care about the rest of us. Kind of makes me wonder where the admission money goes to.

Well - at one of the recent shows, the ATHS paid out $15,000 to give only the members that stayed at the host hotel free breakfasts.

I've been around lcf's and fwd's which all basically use the same cab which i thought was from the 58 dodge pick up line. I've always considered the d cabs the pick ups. It's not quite right but its how I separate them. Thanks

Bigdogtrucker go ahead and post away. Thanks

Yes I think 58 was the first year and ran until 75 - one of the longer running truck cabs. I think the large D series would actually be considered a medium heavy model, although they were available in tandems and semi tractors. For some reason Dodge did not make a heavy duty conventional, they only had the heavy low cab forward, where Ford and GM sold a lot more heavy conventionals and not as many LCF's. Dodge also sold more LCF medium duty trucks which was unusual.

I can only remember seeing one D series tandem, a 1967 model. It had the black vinyl roof that was seen on Dodge pickups of the time.

Here is a later D.

http://www.usedtruck...s.php?MID=47121

Buying price was 38k. There were 2 bids. Never drove a big horn but its the same cab dodge used for every other model and they were roomy for there time.

Except for the D model, two different cabs used from 1961-1977. Available up to the D800.

How about a snowplow? Seems that would go good with a load of salt.

You should have said to "Sit down before you look at the price."