Phase 1

.My next version of a B-61 will be built using the Clariben fiberglass hood.Not the prettiest version of the B.But yet another example of what you could do with a B.(if you wanted to)![attachment=15596:DSC_2782.jpg]

That will be a good thing to do. Most folks probably would not want a Clariben hood, but it will show people a piece of history. It might be the only one restored, I don't think I have seen another.

It would be good if you could now trace the history of the truck.

That is a new one on me - what did they use it for - a dance platform? Oh wait, that was Soul Train.

. Wait a second? Are you guys tryin to make this funny?.........Vinny

well guys i looked at that one by me and it is a HOUGH. its pretty rough too.

A rough Hough ? hmmm - that's tough.

Those Nash "Metorpolitans" still bring a high dollar due to demand. I never thought they were "ugly" although I never liked them. Restored two through the years and they are the epitomy of simple.

Rob

I didn't mind the Metropolitans. It was the full sized "bathtub" Nash that I thought were ugly.

The time from about 1958 to 1961 was the era of "strange" in styling, as many of the cars here show. I think Dodge took the award in that time period, including the trucks.

Chevy trucks showed it too.

V8 diesels have a great sound. Mack, Cummins 903 or a Ford pickup, they all sound good. A Perkins V8 in a Massey Ferguson at a tractor pull sounds super tough.

Im a Mack 711 fan but not a triplex fan, in a hobby dump truck. In a tractor fine but I wouldnt ever come close to using all those gears empty forever.

You don't have to use all the gears.

You dont make money in hobbies that often.

That is true.

Somebody must have changed the hood - or more. Save the B77 emblems - there weren't too many of those built. You might ask him if he knows where the rest of the truck is.

Ive seen one in the ATHS Show Time magazine this year, it wasnt a B61 but a B-83 I think. Mack still made the B's to order is my understanding in 1966. Nice to say my U600 was built the same time the mighty B models were.

The years produced of the different B models was all over the place. The first year of the B was 1953, but some B models did not start until 1965. The last year ranges from 1954 to 1966 and some were only built for one year. The models could start or end at any point in the year.

Mack had overlap on a lot of its models. When a new model came out, they would just keep building the old one.

The U was the replacement for the C model. The B80 series is not uncommon in 1966. Most of the DM800 models which replaced it did not start until sometime in 1966.

Browsed into to his site looking for 63 Dodge D 900 parts. He's got in the Mack section towards the middle some Cruiseliners, F models, an H, a B mobel and a bunch of others. Paul

http://www.candhtruc...Node=E_6&iCID=6

1963 D 900 - was there such a thing ?

This is a little twist - I knew of a 1966 B-61. Don't think there were too many of those.

It would be good if you would do an inventory of the trucks there by recording the model numbers. If you wanted to go further and spend the time, you could copy the serial number and model number from the plate inside the passenger door, along with a brief description of each truck.

Start by moving the trucks that have items that people want. With the money from those parts you can buy more more trucks.

It is the same cab as the C model, it is sitting higher with some skirting. That and the sleeper, not often seen on the C, make it look bigger. International did the same thing with the VCO low tilt cab to make the Emeryville.

The C and H cab were Ford cabs. Ford contracted Budd to make the cabs. It was very common for truck makers to have their cabs made by a different company, just as it was once common for auto makers to have another company make the bodies for their cars. I suspect that Mack started the notion that it was Budd's cab, saying that the N cab was built by Budd in answer to people who called it a Ford cab - which it looked so obvious to be. Ford sold the cabs to Mack.

Mack manufactured some larger pump B models that the 707 engines could not power. The noses were lengthened to accomodate a Hall Scott engine. Scroll down this link to see one. http://www.lastresortfd.org/museum.htm mack458

I don't recall seeing one of those either. Do you know the model number? It appears to be built with the same parts as a B-71.

It certainly looks good for its age. Don't see a scratch or dent anywhere.

Here is the website (click on the picture).

http://www.olddodges.com/

the first dozer i ran as a kid was a 310 Case. it had a clutch with a 3 speed transmission.

remember when backhoes had 2 seats? one for driving and one for digging?

Remember when backhoes had a seperate cab and you sat out in the open to run the hoe - truck mounted?

I remember watching one work when I was about 5 years old. The bucket was I think less than 12 inches wide. Years later I saw the truck without the hoe and remember it as a 1940's Chevrolet, maybe a 1 or 1-1/2 ton.

I saw one a few years ago out in a field. A 1950's Diamond T chassis and had a six cylinder OHV engine sitting right out in the open on back to run the hoe. There were also truck mounted hoes that had a house like a crane.

Not to - alarm you... but that both engines have been replaced with remans is another common trait of the 3208....

That's almost like having to put your family dog to sleep.

It was the family "dog" - right ?

The offset allowed a shorter hood that in turn allowed a longer trailer when there were total length limits. I also remember a Mack ad that discused a better view around a vehicle you wanted to pass without weaving into on comming trafic.

The cab was offset so the engine could sit stright up between the frame rails an not on a angle like the old C model Dodge an the old Diamond T's BULLHUSK

It is unusual to see these answers - which are correct. Mack's marketing line was that it was for better visibility, but the true reason was for a shorter bumper-to-back-of-cab dimension (or for a set back axle like the DM800) . It kept the engine and doghouse from intruding into the driver foot well area.

The only models that have the offset cab are the set-back front axle models. If the reason for the offset cab was better visibility, Mack would have made the conventionals like that too.

Some early Mack's that were purpose built as large dump trucks did have the drivers seat offset to the left so the driver could stand and look backwards when backing up and still reach the steering wheel. That was before it was discovered that it was better to use mirrors.

Someone had posted somewhere that these hoods were often used on trucks with a crash damaged front end. It would have made for a cheap and easy repair.

Just noticed that the truck in the first picture does not have side windows in the sleeper. Don't recall seeing another like that.

As Rob said, it would be a challenge. Maybe you could pick up a better B. Then you would only have to restore the cab from this one.

I have seen one or two pictures of similar Macks. One of them was in Texas and looked original. They could have been modified, but I wondered if the late model LJX models could have been built with the B80 type fenders, or if there were any B80 models built with the L cab - which was done on the B70 series models.

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Are those 59 Cadillac tail lights on front?

That R model is sure unusual looking with the long front and short rear. It looks likes someone hooked to the rear of the cab on an R600 and stretched it backwards. Some would like that look though - kinda looks like it was built for hard work. Easy enough to stretch the frame, but if left as-is it would be something that not everyone else has - there can't be many 700's like that.