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That was my best guess as well, though i did consider an EE model too. not sure about it starting out as a pickup though,the body that was on it was off a 3/4 ton international,and the young guy i talked to said when they got it,it had a platform/flatbed body on it. so at this point it's anybodys guess, but i do agree with you,i think its an ED also. mark
My 2 cents is that it would look better with a flatbed on it instead of a morphodite with that International box.
I believe all of the ED's I have seen were pickups although it certainly could have been ordered as a cab and chassis or there may have been a flatbed/stake rack option.
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A recent thread on G's here:
http://www.bigmacktrucks.com/index.php?showtopic=837
I have also noticed that they seem to be coming out of the woodwork lately.
Short, single axle with a sleeper - possibly that was a houshold movers at one time? It seemed that G's and H's were popular with movers.
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You needn't limit your search to the B-42 and B-61. There were a whole bunch of different B models of that size and some smaller. See the B model registry.
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That has to be rare. I can't recall ever seeing one like it. Check with the Mack museum to see if they can tell you if Mack built it. If not, the SPAAMFA site would be a good place to find out who did.
In my humble opinion, too good and too rare to butcher.
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It's nice that it is a 66 - last year for the B model. Rare because most sold by that time were the R model.
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C models were built between 1963 and 1965. They were an interm model between the B and the R.
Actually, the C was built at the same time as the B and was replaced by the U. They look like a B-70 series with L cab that was run into a wall.
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My Dad bought a 62 G model, I was only about 7yrs old then but can remember the pole in the middle of the interior roof right behind the doghouse. I dont believe the first G models had the pole. It was to keep the roof from flapping. My Dad said within a few years most of the rivets had popped out of the cab and that it was a very cold ride in the winter. I think they were an advanced looking rig for it's day. There were quite a few sold in those few years of production. I was told the issue with KW was the extruded aluminum door surrounds and that Budd sold it to Mack without KW's permission. I always thought the idea of the piece of rebar welded to the front axle cover plate for the first step was a little cheap.
We have about the same story. My dad bought a 1962 G model and I was 7 years old in 1962. But he bought it used in 1963. It was a G-753LST. It had spoke wheels and the step on the wheel hub was a hex shaped stub. I think he said the price new was $21,000. It was a big deal that the drivers seat cost $200.
As I recall, the total number sold was a little over 2000 - and there was 1 with a gas engine. It has to be considered that the H model was also being sold at the same time as the G when looking at the low yearly numbers of the G sold compared to the F. I recently looked at a sales brochure and noticed that the available Mack engines had either 170 or 205 horsepower. 170 horses seems awfully small for that sized truck, even at that time - especially since it was aimed at the western market. Most of the G's had Cummins engines.
I have also within the last few years noticed the similarity between the Cruiseliner and the G. It may be that Mack was trying to recapture the good looks of the G. What is odd is that I never liked the look of the Cruiseliner, something about the front end and headlights, while I think the G was the best looking COE built. The GMC Astro also looks like a G.
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The cab was Ford's design, Ford had it built by Budd. It has been common for truck manufacturers to have another company build thier cabs. The Ford Louiville cab was also built by Budd for a time. Tne Mack B model cab was built in Ohio by I think Orrville. Many of the cab builders were in Ohio. It was once also common for auto makers to have car bodies built by a different manufacturer.
Mack bought the C model cab from Ford. It was also very common for truck manufacturers to buy cabs from a different truck manufacturer. The International L/R model cab was used on about 8 different kinds of trucks.
Speaking of the Mack G, it is unusual that Mack built that low production cab, while having someone else build the high volume B cab.
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Checked into it and previous posts are correct, the B-53 was a mixer chassis. Heavy duty and light weight. No single axle, only tandem or tri-axle. The later ones may have had a quad available - I do not have that information. Not sure but it looks like it might have been a short model like the B-57. It would have been the forerunner of the DM-600 (Dump/Mixer).
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What does the 3 look like? Could it be an E that was stamped upside down? Things like that do happen.
Check with the Mack museum, they should be able to help you.
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I may be wrong, but I believe that the difference is that B-53's are tri-axle or quad-axle. The grill was different than the B-61.
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On 6/14/2009 at 1:45 PM, Orange52Mack said:
My LT was built in Allentown PA. Delivered to Denver CO
Specs from the original are as follows:
6 wheel - changed to 10 wheel in Plainfield NJ Mack Plant. Changes made by San Francisco Branch. July 30, 1952
Weight, total: 18,325
Engine: Cummins NHB
Aux. Trans: B&L 8Q31G
Tires: Firestone AT
Chassis sold to: K&S Equipment Co. 1880 Oro Vista, Oroville, CA
Most of the build sheet contains option and serial no's for each part down to the gaskets, I don't know what the option codes mean; and don't want to
spend hours typing the 9 pages of numbers
I hope you find this helpful and/or interesting.
Anyone interested in starting an L Model Registry, or rather is a registry beneficial/ pro's con's of such a thing? Privacy issues maybe?
A six wheel is a three axle truck whether they are single or dual wheels. It can have 10 individual rims and tires but is considered a six wheeler.
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If it is a B50 it would be a rare and desirable truck. It would need to have a gas engine put back in it though.
Apparently the 50 series did not sell well and it was dropped. It was only offered one way though and no diesel engine. The other B50 series trucks were not introduced until years later and were not in the same category.
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I agree with the above. You are dealing with a lazy cop, or one that is on the take, and that is not an unusual thing in larger cities. Do as 1958FWD suggested, you have to get a little more assertive. Go to a superior and try to get something done. The problem with that is that a higher-up may defend the officer all the way. Sometimes everyone in a department sticks together that way. Don't hesitate to contact an alderman and then the mayors office. If there are other people that had their vehicles stolen the same way from the yard, see if they have made police reports and see if you can get their names and information and contact them. If you all band together it will make things easier. There are obvious things there that the cop just does not want to deal with. You are right, the guy that owns the lot should be arrested for theft - let a jury decide his guilt or innocense.
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Give it a different paint job and his wife won't mind it as much
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Also the B73/B75 was longer because it had a longer wheelbase making it more of a "West coast" truck. It was competition for Pete, Kenworth, etc. It replaced the LT model and was in the progression with the RL 700 and the Superliner. The Mack museum may be able to tell you how many single axle ones were built. Another good question is how many had the B cab and how many the L cab. As far as I know there was nothing in the model number to denote that. The L cab with the large radiator made a B look like a west coast truck
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I don't believe that there is a specific meaning to the model designation of Trucks. Some have sail over the years that certain letters meant different things but I have never been able to verify that. The
RD model is simply the heavy duty version of an R model. Meaning heavy suspension, double frame, severe duty features and things like that.
Hope this answers your question. Doug
The only model I know of that has a meaning to the model letters is the DM which is for Dump & Mixer (this is verified in John Montville's "Mack" book).
It is said that the "G" designation stands for Great Western, but that seems like something the marketing department may have dreamed up afterwards.
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Thanks bulldog man !
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I knew someone that had a 1966 B61. Does anyone know the date the last one was made or the number of B61's produced for 1966? I wouldn't think that there were very many.
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The RL (and FL COE) was built in Mack's Hayward California factory. It was an effort by Mack to combat the growing popularity of the west coast makes with the long hoods and set forward front axles. The forward set axle and long hood made it a "West Coast" truck and allowed bigger motors to be used. The RL 700's predecessors would have been the LT and B70 (especially those with the L cab) series. The next model in that position was the Superliner.
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You are not offending, people here will be glad to help.
If you are not in a hurry to sell them, watch the for sale listings here and on other old truck sites
(ATHS- http://www.aths.org/cads.cfm?view=view&type=WEB ), and on Craig's List and eBay for a couple of months or so. There will likely be trucks sold that are similar that will give you an idea of value. It would be helpful to let us know as much as you can about the trucks - model, year, mileage, condition, when last used, engine and drivetrain type if possible, and more pictures.
Someone here may be interested in them.