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Here is a 1938 mack model EC,this was one of 123 built between 1936 and 1941, most of which were moving vans like this one......mark

I owned 1 W900 K/W, And out of the other 19 (2Macks 2Petes 1Brockway the rest F-Liners) It was the worst riding, maneuvring & handling truck not to mention how freakin heavy it was. Not A good tractor for haulin BULK CEMENT esp. in an out of N.Y. N.J. L.I. & PA. CT. Two years, 4 bumpers & 20 guide poles later. I got rid of it

Ernie,i drove a buddy a mines w-900 one time and holy shit! turn the wheel 3 times lock to lock and the steer tires hardly move! no good at all in a tight spot or for what i do,my pops went to hunts point market almost 6 nights a week with a 275" wheelbase 359 pete...he'd get backed in and be 10 feet longer then anything else,i just don't know how some a these guys do it!.....mark

i think my hood gets around just fine, thank you very much..........................................

Hey bigen,seriously does that CH handle pretty good? i have looked at them, and to tell you the truth the set-forward steer axle kinda scared me.I go to a lot of small mom and pop type customers and i need all the steering i can get! just curious i have'nt test driven one yet.......mark

Look at Reid sod farm r700 in background! 8v71 in that one.

I took that picture back in 1980-something up at raceway park in englishtown,there were hundreds of trucks there that day...i was like a fat kid in a candy store!..mark

I'm with you. I pull a tank and it's unbelievable how much more easy the Vision is to maneuver in the chemical plants. Often times I have to wait 10-20 minutes for a pretty boy to get out of my way in the plants because they have so many blind spots they can't get around without a ground guide. When the yappers get on me about owning a "bulldog" I tell them the Bulldogs have fed and raised 5 kiddoes, put 3 through college and paid for 2 homes so I'll just stay at the pound.

I hear ya' i go to some dam hard places to get into myself,and with my turning radius backing up almost makes me look like i know what i'm doin'! as far as i'm concerned, these guys can have their "hoods" i don't know how many times i've had to wait for a "W9" or 379 pete to pull up back up 15-20 times,then the last laugh is on me when i do it in one! i love it when they need 6 lanes to make a right too!...macks have kept a roof over my families heads and food on the table for a long LONG time,so i'm sticking with what i know too!.....mark

That is a good lookin' R-model,not many around like this anymore. Now if it was just an RS or RL...................mark

Amen and preach on brother me too, I started OTR in 1968. I've had large car pete, KW, and a Binder Eagle and none compare to the comfort of my beloved Vision. I had a Western Star once that was almost as smooth riding but the cab was too small.

I hear ya! anybody that knows me knows my loyalty in trucks is mack,and i have driven several other make trucks,including my dads 275" wheelbase pete largecar,and all kidding aside,my CX is absolutely the best riding/handling truck i have ever driven! I get some grief frome other make owners/drivers..ask me why a mack? i always tell them the same thing,show me a better built truck,with 100 years plus engineering experience,and macks reputation and i'll buy one!....mark

Hey jay,nice find! just think,with a little tlc,some armor all wipes and a little elbow grease it could look like this one!.....i did notice it had a small crack in the windshield!.......mark

Went over to my cousins house for a nice little cookout and family get together.

After I seen the way he was cooking, I really wasn't too hungry for Bar B Q.

I then headed down to the local Subway restaurant to see what they had for the holiday.

I didn't eat there either.

I went back home and had a bowl of Cheerios.

Rob

DAM! thats gonna' put me right off me special memorial day hamburger!.......mark

Hi rob, glad to hear you sealed the deal on the H-model! sure looks like a good solid starting point. I don't know if you are aware of this,but wood brothers moving and storage is still in existance,i was leased to atlas van lines for almost 20 years,they are one of the oldest moving companies in new england and are agents for atlas it may be worthwhile to contact them,see if any of the trucks history can be learned,maybe even photo or 2 can be found when it was new, my thinking is that it can't hurt.Wood brothers ran predominately macks,but used other make trucks as well..mark wood brothers moving and storage

3607 lafayette road

portsmouth,NH 03801 (603) 319-4096

www.woodbrosmoving.com

Yeah, I asked my youngest son last time he was over, but he couldn't figger it out either. He's almost 25 though.

I've only had this machine a few months.

Man youre askin' the wrong guy on this subject! my wife handles all the "new" electronics at our house,i am probably the most technologically retarded person i know! lol.......mark

mine has 2 12 volt positive ground and starts real good,,,,randy

That was my thinking too, sounded like maybe lose/corroded cable, maybe bad starter button/not making good contact to engage the starter......mark

Hi,after reading your post,i have to say that i too am impressed with your ambition on this project.I would like to mirror some points already covered by rob,first,you have to be brutally honest with youself,can you actually do everything that needs to be done? no amount of "book learning" is going to replace actual nuts and bolts experience,not meant to discourage mind you,but its something to think about. Then tools,trucks require heavyer,bigger re:more expensive tools. Removing an engine from a car is relatively easy,removing/rebuilding truck components is another animal alltogether. Then there is the matter of room,once you dissasemble a truck,you will find yourself burried in BIG parts! and if you are un-familiar with trucks,dissasembly requires meticulous photography and note taking. This is where some people will "give up" as it can be overwhelming. Trade type skills also come into play (welding,electrical,mechanical etc.) these can be "pricey" if they have to be farmed out. No one can do everything,but a good working knowledge is a must. I am glad to see that the project is something you are looking at realistically,as you will probably never realize a profit on a restored truck no matter how nice or how much time invested. Lastly, in my opinion, SAFETY FIRST! PERIOD! never,EVER go cheap on safety equipment.fire extinguisher,resparators,safty glasses etc. are all non-negotiable items any shop should be equipped with. ATHS,etc. are all good starting places,as well as here, there is a wealth of knowledge available to you....if i can be of any help,plese let me know.....mark

I took the B61 out with the wife again today and passed a IH dealer with this one out side. There was a Scout in front of it. -

I have been past that IH dealer in my travels,i see this guy every once in a while,usually at one of my customers in suffolk,VA he told me this is a 1964 emeryville,sitting on a late model transtar II chassis,its a 400 big cam cummins,backed by a 13 spd.road-ranger,he still uses it to pull a flatbed in the south east.Pretty good looking truck!....mark

We did have one brockway,it was a 361,cummins powered,with a 10 spd.road-ranger,we bought it from puritan oil co.in bellmawr,NJ..they were in the process of upgrading to new R-models at the time.I only drove this a few times,as my dad ran it back and forth to NYC 6 nights a week,till the trips got longer and further away he needed a sleeper,so we ended up with a used F-model,but thats a whole nother story!....mark

Does any one know who ended up with that brock 760, was a nice lookin truck.

GG2

Heres one that got away,when i first started trucking i ran an end-dump for a family friend, he was looking to upgrade to a new R-model but our local mack dealer did'nt want to give him anything on a trade so he offered it to me for $3500! woulda,shoulda,coulda!......mark

mine all mine!

This is a good looking truck! what are plans for it? gonna use it in your business or restoration only?......mark

Personally,i dont believe i would have ran those drive tires from NC to ohio, but thats just me....imagine what that ride musta'been like!...mark

So what sort of exhaust temp do you get from your 460

Logger,the exaust temp.in my 01'460 mirrors jerryB's at 33/34 boost approx.450-500 deg. at 35/37 approx. the same,the only time i exceed these parameters is on a hard grade pull, colorado,utah etc. then will get up to 8-900 deg.but this is pretty rare........mark

Seen this truck on ebay a little while ago. The guy really brags it up such as just needs a little "TLC". The interior is average for the age but sure would pass for rough. Also says it has 56K rear axles, sure look like 34's to me. Also makes it sound like parts for the V8 are readily available anywhere.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1974-MACK-SEMI-TRUCK-ROAD-TRACTOR-TR-V-8-ENGINE-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3cad983796QQitemZ260610471830QQptZCommercialQ5fTrucks

Rob

A little TLC? my thinking is that ship has sailed!.....mark

Jeezus...did you end up with any bullet holes anywhere? That is THE LAST place I'd want to be broke down. Back a few years ago I was pulling a pneumatic tanker up to Chicago then bouncing down the skyway to whatever steel mill is over there at the top end of Cline Ave...sometimes when I-80 was jammed up I'd take (shit, forgot the road number) across from IN-312 over to I-57 in Dolton....couldn't drive fast enough.

DAM! i know thats right! i used to deliver to a customer in gary,made the mistake of going in there and sleeping backed up to their dock,NEVER EVER do that again! after that,i'd just stay out on the indiana toll road,go in there in the morning,bitch part about it was sometimes it takes 2 hours to run the 26 miles!....mark

They would definately need that armored cab in Paterson today

I agree! i don't think paterson was all that great back when this truck was new!....mark

Mark, A.P.A. had 10 Brockway day cabovers leased to Liquid Carbonic in Harrison N.J back in the late 60's. These truck's where BU T FULL they had the deepest & loudest sounding sounding 318 detroit's I have ever heard!! Do any of you guy's remember them?? They where blue & white & pulled Liquid Oxygen, Hyg.& Nit. tanker's BULLHUSK

Hey BULLHUSK were these the ones that were red.white and blue with stars? seems i remember some type trucks like that,might not be these, i do remember seeing some trucks painted like that at the tonelle ave.terminal and at the old jersey city truckstop. Might have been them i do remember they were detroit powered cant mistake the sound of a 318!......mark

Thanks for posting this!

Hey jay no problem! thought this was a pretty interesting truck, so how'd your wheels come out?......mark

Hi rob,this is indeed a nice looking job! i have a couple questions.....what did you use for the "backing" cardboard,thin paneling? can something like this be accomplished with a "normal" sewing machine or does it require some type commercial machine? reason i ask is that my wife is a pretty fair hand at sewing,and i have a few similar projects in mind. She just did'nt know if her machine would stand up to the rigors of upholstery. I did'nt realize the patches were embroidery either,but they sure look sharp!......mark