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That would be the number 88. Its supposedly the "secret" way to write heil Hitler because H is the 8th letter of the alphabet. So two 8's means heil Hitler. I guess everyone who has even driven car 88 is a Nazi then . I always laugh when I hear morons think every instance of 88 is somehow some super secret code for Nazi nonsense.

Oh ok ! i knew it was some BS like that,there was an article in the local paper about the virginia DMV wanting the plates back,because someone found them "offensive"...mark

Recently, while looking at trailers online, I found a listing that mentioned that a trailer with aluminum wheels on the outside, and steel wheels on the inside on each end of the axle. I have not run into this before, but my initial thought was that this was not a good idea for some reason. Is there a reason not to do this? I understand it is cheaper that buying the extra 4 aluminum wheels, but . . . . .

Thanx.

I personally don't think this a good idea,the company i am leased to runs some trailers with steel wheels inside,aluminum outside the aluminum wheels never seem to "seat" properly, have had to have the lugs re-torqued several times on different trailers. If it were up to me i'd run steel/steel alum./alum. just my 2 cents anyway!....mark

Nice truck and the first "RL700" series I've seen on spokes.

Rob

Yes this was a nice truck, i rode on a job in it when i was a kid,my cousin was fanatical about the appearance of his equipment.At the time ,all of his trucks were mack red and black, they had quite the cross section of trucks,B-models,some "R" series internationals,fords,and one huge ex-military oshkosh (wish i had gotten pictures of that) they were once one of the largest towing/recovery companies in NJ,when he passed away his son took over,and when i last had contact with the family they were down to 3 trucks.........mark

WOW Mark, I think Newark Mack closed in the late 70's (McCarter Hwy. & Miller ST)& then i think in the mid 80's Hillside Mack closed (RT. 22). Cambria on the other hand lost there bldg. on Rt.46 in Elmwood Pk. To a fire (mid 90's?) closed the one on Rt.3 opened up on Dowd Ave in Elizabeth N.J.(old Clark Forklift bldg.)The one on Rt. 1 & Plainfield Ave? Good question last i heard Cambria wound up with a Volvo dealership an that's what it was don't know about now? BULLHUSK

Sorry bout' that, meant the one on dowd ave. forgot that was in elizabeth,just woke up still a little retarded!...mark

Thia is a picture of a 1974 RL-700 wrecker that was once owned by my late 2nd cousin,who owned and operated helmrich towing in pennsauken,NJ. I don't have much info on it,other than whats written on the back of the photo,seems it was ordered as a glider kit,built in their shop.It was kitted with a 1960's 9500 series GMC,318 detroit,13 spd.roadranger,holmes 750 body. It was sold to someone in new england,not sure where specifically,was just wondering if any of the members here up in that area may have seen the truck,or know where/how the truck ended up, maybe provide some more info........thanks,mark

HI ROB,Glad too here your doing better, don't Mack make parts for these trucks anymore? My dad had a customer with a chain drive (it wasn't a bulldog) i would guess it would be in the 30's? open cab Rad. in front (concrete mixer)this was in the mid 60's Newark Mack still had parts for those trucks even the Bull Dog's BULLHUSK

Hey bullhusk did anyone ever move into cambria macks old building down on route 1? i had heard that newark mack was thinking about opening up a branch there. Just curious, i had a pretty good parts guy at cambria, believe he ended up at newark.......mark

THE MONEY PIT

A boat is called" a hole in the water you pour money into"

What would old trucks be called?

A truck hobbyist has pictures of his truck in his wallet where the money used to be!....mark

I'll bet he uses the outriggers next time.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/7601855/

I was wondering when somebody was gonna' notice that! probably wont't be a next time! i mean come on! thats wrecker 101!.....mark

LMAO ! thats great!...mark

Jim,

You're getting good advice here so far. I'll just stick in my two cents -

The older 673 Mack diesels seem to be pretty care-free and easy to start after sitting for a long time.

Some of the more obvious things are:

Make sure the engine turns over with no real bad noises. Either do this on batteries, or push it in a high gear. There is no reason to believe that there will be any problem, if it ran well before it was parked, but it's best to check if possible.

Check the engine oil, and keep an eye open for water discoloration. Do the same for the coolant. Just make sure you have sufficient amounts of each, and in the right locations.

Clean the fuel screen and put in a new fuel filter cartridge.

I like to remove the valve covers and check all air intake tubes for mouse nests. They have fouled up more than one project on me, and contrary to popular belief, mouse shit doesn't burn well in a diesel engine.

If you are going to try to start it on batteries, obviously you will need good ones. And, just as important, carefully check all of the connections from the batteries through the series parallel switch and to the starter. If using batteries, pay attention to the polarities, as these trucks were positive ground systems. It can get confusing. I prefer to push start these old trucks, as it allows me to see if I have decent oil pressure before the engine starts running.

Now - most important - be certain that the fuel pump rack is free and that the shut-down cable is functioning. The fuel pump control can allow the engine to run away if it is sticking in the open position. I've never experienced this, but I don't think any good can come from it.

Disconnect the fuel pick-up line between the tank and the fuel screen, thereby eliminating the tank from the fuel supply system. Lengthen the line as needed and drop it in a 5 gallon bucket full of fresh fuel up on the frame behind the cab. (Strap the pail down tight!) That 5 gallons won't last long, as the return line is sending fuel back to the fuel tank.

Clean fuel, decent compression and a supply of fresh air is all you need for one of these to run.

You will need to prime the fuel system. Use the hand prime pump located near the front of the fuel pump. You will probably have to do quite a bit of pumping, as changing the filters will introduce a lot of air into the system, which is already probably full of air from sitting around for a long time.

I personally wouldn't bother with additives, ether, or any other stuff until you see if it will start and run under its' own power. As long as the hood has been closed, or if by chance the truck has been inside, it should start right up and run fine. If moisture has gotten to the cylinder liners and the rings, then no amount of additive will correct the problem. The real key is to determine that the engine is free and turning prior to start-up.

After starting, run it a little while (for your own satisfaction). Then get the oil and coolant changed, use the Marvel Mystery Oil at that time, if you want, and get complete new filters on the engine. Check the belts and hoses - and plan on replacing them. Pressure test the radiator and inspect it carefully.

Clean out the fuel tanks really well. Best to remove them and patch the leaks, steam clean them inside and out and check the fuel pick-up. But that's a project for another day.

Now, if everything checks out good, you should run the engine for an extended time, get it good and warm and run it under load if possible. And you should be good to go.

All in all - it's a really enjoyable Saturday project!

These single axle tractors are becoming harder and harder to find, and they are becoming very popular. You have a nice project ahead of you and a lot of good people here to help you out.

Have Fun and keep us posted.

Paul Van Scott

Thats just what i wanted to say in better detail! thats almost textbook for getting a truck thats been sitting running! my eyes just can't take all the typing!...mark

10/4 Mark,Just leave it up to a bunch of left loooooonnnnieeeeesssss to come up with that one, these are the same NUTS that are still playin Beatle Record's backwards tellin people Paul is dead!! Look my garage and yard is in Jersey City N.J. we haul bulk cement into N.Y N.J PA. area when I opened my office door and looked up there they were the Twin Tower's It's our back yard a mile and a half across the river from us there is not a day that goes by that we are not haunted in some way by the event's that took place on that day. When those Towers fell you felt the very ground you where standing on shake! looking at an knowing that there were police fireman & workers in those buildings as thay fell!!Was it smoke that bellowed up after they fell? from where we stood it looked more like the souls of the dead rising from the ashes. So in closing I agree with the tail gate on the F150. FUCK EM ALL LARGE AN SMALL sorry for the bad language BULLHUSK

Yup, i agree, i was in long island city,NY on 9/11 delivering a bottling machine to the coca-cola plant there,initally i thought it was some type accident,but soon found out otherwise.I could not get off the island,did'nt until thursday of that week, people can say what they want about us "jerseyans" and new yorkers but the company i was leased to at the time kept me up there on standby,in case there was some type special equipment that needed to be moved (I pulled a temp.controlled moving van w/liftgate) and the kindess of the family who owned the small restaurant i was parked in front of will not be soon forgotten,they fed me,let me shower and clean up in their home. So i'm right there with you on this! people need to take a good look around and figure out whats important to them and this counrty before it's too late! a lot of people were seemingly not affected by 9/11, but it was in our backyard (literally) and i for one am tired of these "PC" assholes telling me to be "tolerant" evil does exist my friend! WTC was proof of that!....anyway,thats my rant!......mark

Mark, My dad would use the same stuff, only when he would pour it into the cyl. he would cut it uith diesel. He would also take the valve covers off and pour it all over the rocker & valve assem. before turning by hand.Must be a Jersey thing I guess? BULLHUSK From Jersey

Oh ok! another jersey guy! seems to be a lot of us on here,i was born in paterson,we moved down to south jersey when i was a kid,lived there all my life until 2 1/2 years ago when we moved to virginia. Closer to my out-bound freight,got tired of corrzine,taxes,cost of living etc. but believe me,we miss jersey! its a different world down here thats for sure!...mark

Bought a 63 B61T triplex single axle from a friend of mine.I figured he would never sell anything so he surprised me when he said that he would sell it and the extra parts he collected for it.He said he wasnt going to get around to fixing it so he would like to see it saved.He said it ran fine when he bought it and drove it to the shop but hasnt been run for 10-12 years.I read what I could on the forum but what should I do first to try to start it?...do I need to pour something in the cylinders or mix something with the fuel for lubrication...thanks...Jim

Might sound like a lot of work,but i grew up in southern new jersey on a small truck farm ran by my grandfather,who was a product of the depression era,he never ever bought anything new.When we would get a "new" truck,he would always put marvel mystery oil in the cylinders,then pull the oil pan,inspect the lower end,both visually and mechanically,clean and inspect the oil pump pick-up, check for anything odd in the pan, usually try to turn the engine by hand,if possible ,see if there were any obvious problems,repair/replace any seals,belts, hoses that needed changed.then top end inspection, valves, springs etc.This was the procedure we followed on the first truck i drove, a 1963 B-61T,that was an old hess oil truck,this truck is still in existance,still runs well, but unfortunately is not owned by me. I sure hope this is some help to you,and i wish you good luck with your project!.....mark

OR.......

I have seen this pickup somewhere, there was an article in the local paper recently concerning its licsense plate, supposed to contain some hidden message about hitler and nazis, the guy said its just his favorite nascar numbers, thats what it looks like to me........mark

It's clean enough...

Nah! this is what a clean truck looks like !....mark

I always thought all oil came out of the same barrel and just put in different jugs. This is not the first time and probably not the last time that I have been wrong.

I personally have had good luck with the bulldog brand oil myself,never knew it was made by exxon though. I have yet to have any oil related problems at 721,000 miles,now coolant tanks, thats another story!....mark

I have a daycab....ain't got no blindside.

I know thats right!

Looks like he had a good sense of humor. Gets you through sometimes.

Rob

I agree if i could'nt laugh at the things i say and do, i'd be a lot more "warped' then i am!....mark

Was just reading bigens post about fender mirrors,put me in mind of the story of why i have them on my CX,back when i was hauling broadway shows,i used to go into some damn hard places to back into.This particular night,was dark, raining like a cow pissing on a flat rock! i had to blindside into a narrow alley to avoid get blocked out by cars parked on the street.Got set-up started backing in, could'nt hardly see a damn thing! got her in straight, about halfway in i heard a bang! i had just touched a dumpster with the right corner of the trailer,sent it rolling down the street, around the corner, last i saw it was heading west! anyway,the garbage truck driver was not happy about having to go round up his can,left me a little souvenier,and a few choice words about not being able to see! this was the result......mark

that is all factory accetp the mirrors on the fenders and i think they should be manditory for every one, under 30 yrs. old and every one over 40

LOL! about the fender mirrors, never heard it put like that,but i agree! got em' on my CX, would'nt be without them 47 year old eyes aint what they used to be!...mark

Here's the truck I'd like to have if I ever went OTR.........or if Bigen was looking to start a fleet and hire me.. http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=2240708 ...however I'd rather have a 13 or 18sp instead of the LL friendly auto-shift. I don't know what they did different with this truck and Bigen's, but they look pretty sharp.

Thats a good looking truck! i have looked at a few of these, my only concern is the turning radius of the set-forward steering axle as opposed to my CX,i go to some damn tight places to get in and out of, and every little bit helps. I'm right there with you on the trans. though,i prefer a 13 spd. myself, and i personally would not consider a truck with a "matic" in it but thats just me......mark

Would like to see a photo of the Wisconsin H60 , here,s a couple more from our Mack open day here in Central Queensland

WOW, this LT is sharp! personally i could do without the giant chrome bumper though, my opinion it distracts from the classic look, but a real nice truck none the less..mark

i posted some pics of that in my ed post, i know the young guy your talking about at western co. mack, i had some truck trouble out there and he was very helpfull, he is the only mack guy you can count on west of the rocky's

i keep thinking he is gona show up on here.

Yeah.probably the same guy, i had a pop-off valve go bad in my primary air tank and he came in on saturday to fix me up with another one and a spare,i agree, their about the only descent dealer out in that area, never had too good luck with denver mack........mark

Makes me glad the other day I stumbled upon a 'Welcome to America, now speak ENGLISH or get the hell out!' sticker for my back window.

Like this one??? mark

Hi gentleman

A friend of mine has restored this old H60 ,The engine number corresponds with the chassis number & complience plate is also matching. from what i understand Mack only ever made 81 or 82 of these petrol Cherry pickers. I found another on youtube in Europe but no others with the petrol engine, would be good to hear from anyone that knows of any others

These are nice looking trucks,i would like to see more pictures of the pair as well, i would imagine an H-60 is quite rare in australia as well,especially a "petrol" powered one.......mark