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I'm not impressed. Kennedy will guaranteed vote for passage of the bill, whatever its final form ends up being. At this point, any congressional representative that votes for legislation that adds a cent to the national debt is deranged. I have seen estimates this bill creates anywhere from $3.3 trillion to $5 trillion of budget deficit over the next 10 years. That deficit will be paid for with new debt. Currently it appears only Senators Rand Paul and Thom Tillis are the only two Republicans, who have the courage do the correct thing and oppose it. However, with that said, I think Tillis is opposing for reasons other than fiscal. So really only a single Republican, US Senator has the country's best long term interest in mind. Sad.

Thinking objectively, I think a 600 series Mack with an Eaton transmission from the late 70s was quite scarce then. Probably like hens teeth now. I have little knowledge of the various Eaton transmission iterations, however, I wouldn't be surprised if the mounting locations on a late 70s Eaton are not the same as a 2000s era unit. That is to say even if you could find the correct factory mounts that line up with your frame holes they might not line up with the transmission. My guess is you are going to end up making what you have work via drilling and/or fabricating. My guess is it has been done many times over the years. Seems like many people who end up with an old Mack are looking to dump the Mack trans and swap in an Eaton.

20 hours ago, Mark T said:

🤣 yes...because congress does so much only after the people's consent. 

You likely missed the point....

2 hours ago, other dog said:

One thing is for sure, if they (Iran) did have nuclear weapons they would not hesitate to use them.

I think that is extremely debatable and probably incorrect. The same reason that keeps anyone that has nukes from using them would keep Iran from using them as well. They are no different. There is a reason they have never been used since the two were dropped on Japan. If Iran used a nuke on Israel, the 10 largest cities in Iran would be vaporized within 25 minutes. I think mutually assured destruction is 100% real. I think most other people do too. That is why they have never been used again. Additionally I doubt they would nuke the third holiest city in Islam and contaminate / vaporize the Holy Land at large.

This is the same Iran that has been "just weeks away" from attaining a nuclear weapon for literally the last 30 years. Just a little over a month ago director Gabbard reported that Iran is nowhere near being able to enrich fuel enough for a nuclear weapon let alone build a nuke. Was she lying?

Sure Iran is regional bully and "state sponsor of terrorism". I honestly couldn't care less what they do over there. None of my business. To me they are just a saber rattling FUD that amounts to absolute zilch for average American citizen. To my knowledge Iran has never attacked this country or carried any terrorist attacks on American citizens here. Heck the largest terror attack in our history was carried out by our supposed closest ally and "best friend" in that region. Not one hijacker was Iranian. 15 were Saudis though 🙄. Even though it amounts to absolutely nothing, I highly doubt the "death to America" mantra is totally unfounded. If the US and CIA had not been playing around in Iran back in the 60s and 70s we wouldn't even be here. The US government destabilized the whole country because we are righteous and they are not. And here we are 50 year later still telling them what they can and cant do. Its honestly not hard to see why they are angry. At this point dropping bombs on them and killing their citizens is treating the symptom not the problem. I doubt it created any good will with the average Iranian citizen. Certainly not with any of the radical ones.

17 hours ago, tjc transport said:

obummers bombing record from 2016... all done without congress aproval:

Obama might be the worst president in modern US history. I certainly would not use his actions to validate anything. It was wrong then and is wrong now. It has nothing to do with Obama, Trump. Or Democrat, Republican. Or Left, Right. The fact that a president can unilaterally bomb another sovereign nation and kill its citizens without Congress' (the people's) consent is heinously troublesome. I don't think US foreign policy is righteous. In fact on the contrary, probably for about the last 80 years US foreign policy has been overall terrible, and has not been in the best interest of the American citizen. I think there is ample evidence to support this. Murder hornets are more of a threat to US citizens than Iran is. But we just spent half a billion dollars leveling sections of their country for our safety. Anecdotally I fell less safe now than I did last Friday afternoon. Not by much but the feeling is there. I think the US meddling in Israel's matters is not in the US citizen's best interest.

17 hours ago, tjc transport said:

how many did Trump drop in iran, 3? 4? 

It matters not but for the record it was more than 75 according to General Dan Caine, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. As I understand it the third site was leveled using dozens of cruise missiles launched from submarines due to it not being a fortified, underground site.

Pentagon reveals how B-2 bombers struck Iran nuclear sites in mission dubbed "Operation Midnight Hammer" - CBS News

"America First".....right after I drop these bombs on a sovereign nation without a declaration of war from Congress. 🙄. I heard a retired general say in an interview yesterday say he estimated the entire mission, all things considered, cost the American taxpayer anywhere from from 300 - 500 million dollars. Shameful. 

If I'm not mistaken this is the same weekend as the Ashland Ohio hot air balloon festival. Weather depending they launch the balloons Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday night. If your going to the truck show maybe stick around and watch the balloons go up and away. It's quite the sight. I think the balloon launch site is only a mile or two from the fairgrounds where the truck show is.

Ashland BalloonFest – Ashland Ohio's Largest Free Event

On 6/14/2025 at 6:15 PM, mowerman said:

And 67 R model I don’t know his name. I figured both of you guys would be there,

I couldn't swing it this year. Not to mention the poor weather forecast didn't make me feel real bad about not going.

Sold for $10,000. $11,000 with the buyers premium.

We have been getting a ton of rain through here lately. The only thing I can figure is they pulled it out of the barn for the auction and they put it on there to keep water from getting in a rusty or bad spot on the cab. 

Can't say that I have ever seen a 700 series U model. Would be nice if there was some more pictures and specs. Probably a pretty scarce truck. Not mine. Just reposting and passing along a Marketplace listing I thought was interesting. It looks slightly different than the 600 series U models I have seen. The front fenders and grille look to be about 4"-6" taller.

1974 mack u700 - Commercial Vehicles - Berwick, Pennsylvania | Facebook Marketplace | Facebook

I don't have any facts to verify but what I've gathered over the years is up to the point when econodyne was "introduced" Mack engines were 2100 rpm high torque rise engines that used 5 and 6 speed transmissions. Rated HP was at 2100 rpm. The econodyne engines turn slower and have their rated HP at 1800 or 1750 RPMs to save fuel and less engine noise / driver fatigue. My guess is the there are slight differences in the fuel system and engine internals (cam / pistons) between a 2100  RPM Maxidyne and an 1800 RPM Econodyne. Again no facts. Just anecdotal info...

@reb87 I was just browsing Bring A Trailer's sold listings and noticed this truck sold on there for $11,000 back on 12/9/2023. Not sure if you knew that but here is the listing and bid history. I think you are able to contact and send PM's to people through that site so maybe you could contact the seller and maybe get more information on its history. I wonder what happened to the buyer. He had it about a year and took a total bath on the money. After consignment fees to Ritchie Bros he probably got back less than 20%  of what he paid for it. 

No Reserve: 1953 Mack L-Series Wrecker for sale on BaT Auctions - sold for $11,050 on December 19, 2023 (Lot #131,220) | Bring a Trailer

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For $3500 that is worth it even if the engine block is windowed. You can pick up a good running for another $3-4k if you had to. Or you could sell the dump box and hydraulics for $3500 or $4000. Buy a running 4V E6 or fully mechanical E7 for what you sold the bed for. Not to mention its from Washington so you know its rust free. Anyway might just be a broken valve spring or something stupid like that.

Call local Mack dealer and give them your VIN. They should still have info for a 1978. Or call Watts Mack, the owner of this website. They have all the dirt on the old stuff. There is a Mack dealer parts guy on here a lot that always seems to come up with something. @The Heinz

The only way that truck could be better is if it had the New Process NV833 4spd OD transmission in it. Behind that 305 and with 3:55 or 3:73 rear would be a holy grail ride for some square body enthusiast. Manual transmissions in that era of GM pickups almost seem rare. Fords seem like they are a dime a dozen.

If I remember correctly they have a real nice distinct sound to them too. Maybe it was the muffler that was on the truck. But it sounded real nice and kinda mean. Like I said I never drove it but rode in it many times. From the passenger seat it seemed like it revved like a gasser. Almost like it had no flywheel on it. But you could also lug it down pretty hard and it would pull the weight.

Probably a front spring upgrade too. I would think they are pretty heavy compared to a 350 or 454 gasser. 

I posted this a while back in another thread:

Years ago at one of my first laboring jobs as a teenager we had one in a 1988 GMC Top Kick dump truck. 33,000 GVW with a 2 speed rear end. I couldn't drive it because it was a CDL truck but everyone who did abused the ever loving snot out of that truck/engine. Always overloaded. Under maintained and just down right abused. Some of the guys did it intentionally because the rest of the truck was just utter GM junk and they didn't like driving it. That thing never missed a beat. That engine would start and run no matter what. The company ended up selling it years later to a farmer who just wanted it for his property. The frame got bad rust jacking and nobody would pass the state inspection on it but it ran like a sewing machine when the guy took it away. That's my only experience with a 3208 but have always heard they were underpowered for their size (10.0L) and not "good" engines. 

My guess is if used and maintained properly they are probably as good as any other engine....

The US has run a trade surplus with the UK for years and last year was nearly $12billion. Why were tariffs imposed on the UK to begin with? When was the last time you bought anything made in the UK? Ever? They send nothing here and buy copious amounts of energy and tech from the US. Heck their nuclear navy is 100% reliant on the US defense department and contractors for repair, overhaul, and refueling of their entire fleet. My guess is a 4th grader could have made this "deal". What could it possibly say? 

Does anybody know what these kind of mufflers are called? Or what brand? Are they still available anywhere? Did they offer some kind of advantage over a "regular" muffler?