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3 hours ago, mowerman said:
i was wondering whats up with the cheap starting price,,,,trucks looks perfect condition
For sure!!
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KSC..No argument on the 7.8 parts availability, but that LN with an LTL grill is one good looking truck IMO..so much so thatI wonder if that is not a very good piece of photoshop work.
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7 hours ago, Geoff Weeks said:
For the same (aprox) displacement you could have a Cummins L-10 or a Cat 3306 and have a far better engine.
Both of those would pull a loaded semi at 80K.
Longer and taller but better suited.
If you look at comparing to a 5.9 or 6.7, you are comparing to a much smaller engine, in the case of the 5.9 almost 1/2 the displacement.
The 3208 was 10.4L
yes but an L-10 or 3306 were what? 5-8 grand more..Just guessing..but if you wanted either in a Louisville I think you had to get a 9000 vs an 8000.
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8 hours ago, Geoff Weeks said:
3208 isn't a"throw a way' engine, it isn't lined, which means an overhaul is out of chassie. Pistons ride directly in the block, like a car engine. You can over-bore them.
The D950 Kubota, I'm working on still has dry liners. Cat made that engine as cheap as possible for Ford, IIRC, and it was.
Correct on Ford. They were introduced as "Ford V-225"- The 225 being the HP. I think that was the highest rating and I think they went as low as 160? Paul made a good point as to what speed limits were when it was introduced. And I think for example while a 6-71 was 218 HP here this motor was 225 and probably cost a lot less than a 6-71..or a 220 Cummins.
I remember loading trucks in our lube plant in Buffalo-1968🤔. Red Star driver comes in with a new C-8000 single axle tractor .
I asked him how he liked the new truck with the "Ford diesel"...he says ..."A beast -pulls 40,000 like it wasn't there "..I think that was a problem..the horsepower rating had people using it beyond its intended "mid range" use.
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Well one thing for sure...I doubt that picture represents the truck as it currently is. Never heard of a 3208 in an R Model. We had V-185 Cummins in DM's..a real disaster. Maybe the poster was looking at a 413 Mopar..didnt know what those 8 wires were for🤣
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5 hours ago, blackdog2 said:
No a Quarry truck operator dumping on top of a pile ........A Cat employee said something inappropriate and that stop for a couple year's ?
Nice shot..I assume that is rt 17 in background
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On 4/30/2025 at 8:29 AM, 66dc75 said:The more I think about it I'll probably just change the gearing. I actually would like to keep the spokes. It would be a whole lot cheaper and I am a cheap bastard. It would be nice to have airride though.
Rich for sure..spokes are in its heritage!
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1 hour ago, DavCut said:When my Dad started working for EH Perkins in eastern Massachusetts back in the early 80's they had days when they were running 90-100 hired trailer dumps running bank run gravel into the greater Boston area from pits in the Littleton/Groton area. Those would be short hauls these days! Ed Perkins was ahead of his time when bought out the Pandolph family quarry in Sterling, MA securing a relatively close source of rock that is still in use 40+ years later.
Dave,
Are you aware Perkins sold out? Century Aggregates from Albany bought all the Perkins facilities. Century is Clemente. Clemente came to US from Italy in 1903 -his grandkids run it now. He also started Bonded ready mix in Albany . Check out their website.
PS This is my Mack on the scales at Sterling a couple of years ago. this was my post in the ATHS 45th anniversary book. My caption was..."as I pull off the scales at the quarry I wonder if the gGranite in back of me will be on the road 60 years from now."
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6 hours ago, blackdog2 said:
Today in history worst construction accident in Connecticut ..... https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1AZsVBztnC/?mibextid=wwXIfr
Wow- forgot about that. What ever became of the site? Wonder if that method is still used? A lot has changed in almost 40 years as far as construction technology. We always bitch about government imposed safety regs but I guess good example maybe of what can happen.
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On 4/17/2025 at 12:15 PM, james j neiweem said:
From what KS says this is one hell of a truck! He ought to know! But they still need to change that grill and headlight area to make it look more like a classic Acar.
I said same thing first time I saw one..get rid of that curve on top and for sure by today's standards a winner in the looks department. From a safety viewpoint I also like that stand alone turn signal
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8 hours ago, Bullheaded said:
Last week I got bored one day at the mine and parked my loader and jumped in a new Granite dump truck because I wanted to try one with the M-Drive auto.
Lets start with the truck. We had some rental Peterbilts and T880's and they started falling apart so we brought these Mack's in and they have been taking the punishment. They are running 30 KM round trip loaded with 25 to 30 tonne of ore on horrible pot holed washboard.
I can say, they ride incredibly good, especially considering these ones have rubber block rear suspension. They ride every bit as good as last truck I used to run, a loaded air ride 2020 4900 Western Star. And no squeaks or rattles. Pretty impressed with the truck itself.
Now the M-Drive auto. They might be good on road, but not my thing off road on hills that are shown as 15% on the dash displays in our Cat rock trucks. Actually panicked me a few times because they feel like they go in to neutral between shifts there is such a long pause. And I spun out on one hill because it decided to shift (and pause) right at the peak of the hill. Yes I know I could have used manual mode, but wanted to see how they did in auto. I did not like at all.
But then I tried performance mode and performance plus and they performed a lot better. But in this application of big hills and having to slow constantly to almost a stop for giant potholes, they seem to get confused and shift way more than necessary. The MP8 505 has plenty of power to pull a gear but they would still shift down.
Not my cup of tea, I'll take a manual any day. But they might be nice for use in town or for idling along with a roto-mill.
Engine brake was pretty strong too, compared to Mack's of old.
Thx for the review😎
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6 hours ago, blackdog2 said:
O&G put in a sand rail site were the old Hi-Ho / O&G asphalt plant in Milford to off load rail car's to feed Fairfield county sinking Million's on car's and a elaborate conveyor system with bin's .......still trucking sand though not paying the bill's ?
Would that be the Beard site on rt.1?
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1 hour ago, Joseph Cummings said:
Yeah I was thinking maybe like an Allison 6000 Series
https://allisontransmission.bynder.com/m/348dc917b2c1df66/original/Vocational-Model-Guide.pdf
That should work- imagine it would be a tight fit😎
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13 hours ago, Global Guru said:
What drive train was used? I’d think the clutch, transmission and rear end would be overloaded by a 3412.
Agree. I just discovered this thread because of your post. I would imagine it had some sort of "slush box" of some sort out of an MX Mack or some other off road truck.
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3 hours ago, blackdog2 said:All over Windom / Brooklyn 6 or 7
Well sooner or later the material in close to major population centers runs out.
Boston Sand now runs trains from the Ossipee Region of NH. Huge pit a mile from my house is now a huge solar field..nice one as it is completly out of view. Trucks are running Rt 2 all the time now to pits on northern border.
In my "youth" Rice had the pits all along Washington Ave from the center of North Haven to the P & W plant.
Pretty soon the environmental loons on the Cape if they don't change their "Beach Nourishment" bullshit will have trailer dumps running off cape to get sand.
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36 minutes ago, blackdog2 said:
Sega in Waterbury / New Milford....Rawson is the largest supplier of sand in tri-state area supplying Suzio , United concrete , Conn .precast O&G
Where is Rawson's pit (s)?
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4 hours ago, blackdog2 said:
Pat Camputara now owned by Joseph's in New Hampshire once owned by New England chapter ?
It was the New England Chapter of ATHS that Mrs Fox, wife of late owner left the truck to.. ATHS claimed a chapter could not own anything. A lot of BS going back and forth. ATHS ended up selling the truck.
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Ford should have these Aussies engineer the air brake option for 650/750 gas jobs seeing Ford keeps saying they can't offer air brakes on these God Zilla powered trucks because of under hood heat issues! absolute BS