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Excellent stories - All really good.

But, remind me NEVER, EVER to fool with Rob's wife!!

Wow.

Paul Van Scott

...especially if he's got a forklift in his hands

1958F.W.D.,ken used to drive for Jevic,but I don't know when.They're also out of Delanco,N.J.They also have blue trucks.What a coincedence!

...geez Speed,you do more in a day when you're sick than I do all year,and I feel...well,not too bad.Glad you're feeling better,we were about to send a search party out for you and Bulldog Man

...man-it just gets wierder and wierder...

Speed

Back in the 90's when dad drove the blue kw that's in my avatar, him and another driver was gonna quit because of a smart a$$ dispatcher like that. Terry the company owner begged dad and ridgerunner to stay. They stayed until they had to leave clinton tenn. at 11:00 pm thursday nigh and had to be in florida the next morningfar a 7:00 am appointment. The dispatcher owns the company now and it's went straight to he!!, but what do you expect.

I know the feeling.I loaded some of those big air conditioner units that go on the roof of a building in Amherst,Va. one Friday that didn't deliver in Norristown,Pa. until Tuesday.I said great,I won't have to leave until Monday evening. ken said "no,I've got plans for you for Monday". So Woodstock and myself had to go load two long loads in Lynchburg Monday morning and deliver them in Harrisonburg that evening.They were actually the columns that held up the new scoreboard at James Madison University.Then of course we had to take the trailers back to Lynchburg,then go to Appomattox and pick up the AC units and be in Norristown first thing the next morning. We didn't get empty in Harrisonburg until late that evening,well after 5 o'clock.

I should have some artwork to post in a week or 2...probably 3-4 weeks until they are available. Price might be $23 each because of the extra cost of double sided printing and art design, but you guys know we only offer quality shirts!

Indeed! I wore mine to the shop one Saturday before the Christmas parade,and everybody wanted to know where I got it.Timmy said he was going to order one,but I don't know if he did or not.

Just a little side note-I'd been hearing rumors for a week or two now that PGT had bought H.H.Moore Jr. Trucking Co.,and it must be true,or they wouldn't be taking H.H.Moore off the truck doors and putting PGT on them.

Well?..anything new? The suspense is killing us!!!

Once upon a time I had to take a load of joists to White Plains,Md. This was after i'd been to South Carolina with a load,back to Salem, then to Suffolk,Va. with another load of joists, then back to Salem to get another load to deliver in Cincinnati the next morning. Had to be there at 7am,or else. Didn't matter if 15 trucks were going to the same job,or where you'd been already,if you weren't at the jobsite it was a $25 fine,taken out of your safety bonus. The dispatcher (we'll just call him ken) came up with this plan,so everybody would be on time.

I made it to Cincinnati-on time-,unloaded and picked up a load of coils in Middletown going to Walker muffler in Harrisonburg,Va. Got to Harrisonburg the next afternoon,it was a Thursday,unloaded,called in and they said to come on in,they didn't have any loads at the time. So I went home,figuring I was done for the week,but ken called at 4:45 and said I needed to go to Salem and get a load and be in White Plains,Md. at 7am with it. He never asked,like Teddy and even H.H.Moore himself, "would you..." or "could you..." he just told you what you were going to do,and that's all there is to it,end of discussion.

It wouldn't have been too bad to run down I-81 from Harrisonburg to Salem,but as usual I came all the way to Appomattox,went home,then had to go to Salem. I was already tired as a dog,but I went back to work. Where I work now I could here Todd telling someone "sorry,but I don't have a truck available" if they called in a load that late on Thursday,but ken would never tell anyone that,he'd put a truck on it whether you had any hours left to work with or not,which I didn't.

So I go to Salem,chain the load down,which takes about every chain you've got because you have to put chains through each layer of joists or they can spread apart on you,and take off to White Plains. When I got there I couldn't find the delivery address so I found a trucking company that was open and stopped to ask if they knew where I was going.They didn't,but they finally decided that it had to be the empty lot on the corner,right on rt.301.

It was about 3am by this time and when I got to the lot they were talking about,it was indeed empty.No sign,no nothing,just a big pile of dirt and a circle driveway.By then I was so tired I was just waiting for the wheels to stop turning so I could jump in the bunk and go to sleep. So I turned into the circle driveway and about the time the trailer got off the road good I felt a bump and came to an abrupt halt. "hmmm," I thought," trailer must be in a hole".Then the truck rocked a couple of times and I thought "gee... I believe this summitch is gonna turn over-". Then it turned over.

Come to find out the big pile of dirt came out of the couple of feet deep ditch that was on my right. That was the hole the trailer went in. The ditch was not marked,no signs,no flags,no nothing. Now I won't go to a jobsite I don't know until daylight.

I was driving the black Freightliner then and I turned it off and climbed out the escape hatch,which was also the driver side window. Couldn't sleep in there now,so I started walking to find a phone.Then I decided i'd better get my book right,so I went back and climbed back through the escape hatch and found my log book in the debris pile.I was sitting there with my log book when a cop shined a flashlight through the windshield and yelled "you all right in there?".I threw the logbook back into the debris pile and yelled back "yeah",and climbed back out of the escape hatch again.

The cops filled out a report,called a wrecker,and left.I didn't get a ticket or anything,because I was already off the road. The crane showed up at the job about 8:30 or 9 o'clock and unloaded the joists,they weren't damaged,and they set the truck back up with the wrecker. They towed it down to a garage on 301,and after they took the engine fan off because it was broken,I drove it back to Appomattox. Needed some body work though.

When the workers came to the jobsite that morning and saw a truck turned over one of them said "you know,this really wasn't your fault". I told him "well,even if it ain't,the truck's still just as turned over".

David:

I took a few pictures of a Brockway Mixer over the weekend-hope they cheer you up. They're in the Gallery under "Visit to A&A Parts"

Best regards,

John

Thanks,I'll check it out. I'm cheered up and happy as a monkey on a banana boat now,I quit that job over 3 years ago. Only reason I didn't leave sooner was because I just didn't want to quit when i'd been there over 25 years, highly unusual for a truck driver,and I like Larry and Bonnie a lot,they're good people and good to work for,but 'ya gotta do what 'ya gotta do they say. I just couldn't seem to get on the same page with ken- I told Bonnie and Larry he hated me for some reason,but they didn't believe me. later,Tom

I am trying to sell my uncles 1965 b61 dump truck.Someone from old mack trucks in Cairo NY is coming to look at it.Has anyone here ever dealt with this company and if so will they offer me a fair price?

Thanks,Steve

I've looked at their website a lot,they have lots of old Macks for sale,but otherwise I don't know anything about them. You could look at their site and maybe get some kind of idea what your uncle's truck would be worth.

Good stories, I'm certainly not the only one that worked with such a tool I see. I'm just glad I don't have to deal with any of that crap anymore. Rob,

Back in the 90's when dad drove the blue kw that's in my avatar, him and another driver was gonna quit because of a smart a$$ dispatcher like that. Terry the company owner begged dad and ridgerunner to stay. They stayed until they had to leave clinton tenn. at 11:00 pm thursday nigh and had to be in florida the next morningfar a 7:00 am appointment. The dispatcher owns the company now and it's went straight to he!!, but what do you expect.

yeah,his attitude was the worst part. As you can see in some of my pictures it says "H.H.Moore Trucking" on the front of the building,but like I told Bonnie and Larry (H.H.'s son and daughter,who ran the company after H.H. passed away) ken seemed to think it said "ken".He was just a dispatcher,I looked at him as a fellow employee with way less seniority than I had,but he thought he was the ruler there and what he says goes,no questions. And I never expected any special treatment or anything,get along with almost anybody,but he was just an a-hole,there's no other way to put it. He's no longer there either.

Wow you really made me consider keeping it for a minute. You sound very passionate about old trucks so was my uncle. I would like to sell it to someone who would enjoy owning it. I am confined to a wheel chair so me using it is out of the question.

oh,sorry.Probably can't do parades in the Bronx.I took a load of rice from Arkansas to the Bronx once. Two stops-I was terrified,but it wasn't near as bad as I thought it would be.

I'm feeling really honest today,telling everything,but being honest,like one of my greatest friends Bill (a.k.a. the diesel gypsy) told me to always do.

I drove for H.H.Moore Jr. trucking Co. in Appomattox,Va. for over 25 years.I got along with everybody who ever worked there,except some driver called "6-pack",some little short guy that worked in the shop (but I wouldn't describe him as a mechanic-I don't know if Barry will let me describe him as what he actually was,and probably still is),and the last dispatcher they had before I quit. This dispatcher,we'll just call him ken,was a real piece of s..uh,work I mean. He once called me at home and asked me where I was at.

But he also told me on a Thursday to go to Sanford,N.C. and call him first thing Friday morning.We hauled a lot of brick out of Sanford,so I assumed he had a load down there and I needed to call to get the pick-up information.So I left home Thursday night,instead of spending the night at home with my wife,and called in early Friday morning.He said " well,uh,..I ain't got anything right now-call back in 15 minutes". WHAT?!! He never had a load in the first place,he just ASSumed he would get one. If I knew then what I know now,i'd have left then,brought the truck to the shop,beat him to a bloody pulp,and quit.But after calling back in 15 minutes 4 or 5 times I ended up deadheading over to somewhere on the otherside of Statesville,N.C. and loading green lumber at a sawmill going to Rhode Island.

Then one time I unloaded some guardrail in Clarksville,Va. Called in empty (we had Quaalcom at the time) and got all the way back up rt.15 and 47 to Pamplin,Va. when he sent me a message to go to Emporia,Va. and get a load of decking going to Salem.And how far was I from Emporia when I was in Clarksville? And I was all the way back to Pamplin when he sent the message!

Oh,then one time myself and two other drivers loaded some long loads in Lynchburg going to Blacksburg,home of the Hokies. We loaded early that morning,and as usual with oversize loads were late that evening getting unloaded in Blacksburg.We called in when we were unloaded,and ken told the other 2 drivers to be back in Lynchburg the next morning to do it again,and he told me to take my pole trailer to Lynchburg and drop it,bobtail to Appomattox and get a flatbed,go to Salem and get a load of joists and be in Baltimore at 7am the next morning.All the way from Blacksburg to Appomattox then back to Salem,then to Baltimore?!! How far was I from Salem when I was in Blacksburg? How come one of the other trucks couldn't drop their trailer in Lynchburg and go back to Salem and get my trailer,then I could've went straight to Baltimore?!! And I had more seniority than either of the other two drivers...I just don't get it.

I could go on and on-but what made me quit after 25 1/2 years was the time I stopped by the house one afternoon to tell my wife I had to go to the shop and fuel up and pick up a tree tarp and i'd be right back.She was already sick at this time,actually dying of cancer. She said "I'll go with you". I said "ok",and helped her get into the truck. When I got to the shop ken was standing in one of the shop doors with a couple of drivers.We weren't supposed to have passengers of course,but I lived 10 miles from the shop and when she said "I'll go with you" I wasn't about to tell her she couldn't. That Friday we got a notice with our check that said "...no matter how long you've been here you can't have any passengers,blah-blah blah...". Becky said "that must be because I was in the truck with you the other day". I told her "no,that's just one of those things they put out periodically". Later Mutt,one of the drivers who was standing out there with ken, said "yeah,that s.o.b. saw Becky in the truck and ran straight up in the office to tell". And she wasn't trying to hide in the first place .It was just that chicken $%&* way of his of doing things. I told Mutt right then "I don't know where i'm going-but i'm going somewhere". And the rest as they say is history. My only regret now is that the first day ken walked in,I should have been walking out.And tapped him right in his snout on the way.

Hi

My uncle has a 1965 mack b61 dump truck. He can no longer use or enjoy driving it due to his health. Can someone please let me know about how much money I should ask for.It has around 50k miles and has a single rear axle thanks.

Steve

None-you should keep it and drive it yourself ,even if it's only in the fourth of July and Christmas parades,in honor of your uncle.

That's a sharp looking unit you've got there!

Just a shot in the dark but the first Mack diesel was designed by Lanova and was called the END672. So maybe they bumped the number to reflect the new Scania design which was very similar to the 672 if not the same block with different heads.

if it was the first it looks like it should have been the FIRST672 instead of END672...just thinking

Guys, Well I have a hard number. $775 bucks will get me 8 pieces as follows:

Nosing that "Dog is attached to.

"Mack" header that is under the nosing on the rad shell

Bull dog

Right and left side hood dogs

one "Thermodyne"

one "diesel"

one "B-61"

Any opinions?

PS- I also sent him my rad shell just for kicks- a grand! I think it will look nice in Black with redshutters and chrome hood latches!

WOW! I think it will too...I had no idea chroming was that expensive, but i've never had anything chromed before.

Rob

I actually loosen the retainer nut till the top of the nut is flush with the ending of the column threads. I then place a large washer inside the steering wheel center, butt my knees against the wheel rim at the bottom while pulling at the top of the rim, and smack the washer with a hammer. The shock to the column usually breaks the wheel loose, and the retainer nut keeps you from eating the steering wheel.

Good luck!!

Hi Rod, I usually use the method you mention as I'm usually to lazy to walk across the shop to get the correct puller. This way works so well, and consistently, there is hardly a need to obtain one.

The wheels are hardly ever "stuck for good".

Hope your air steering turned out alright!!

Rob

I always used the 2 hammer method,with 2 people,and never seen it fail. Loosen the nut 'til it's flush with the end of the threads,have someone pull on the wheel hard as they can,hold one hammer on the end of the shaft and hit it hard as possible with another hammer,and the wheel usually pops free....usually

I see a lot of big tuff looking old Macks on I-79 in W.V. and Pa,look like oil field trucks. Some have front wheel drive too,but I haven't been able to get any pictures yet.

HECK YEAH DO A FRONT AND BACK BUT PLEASE PLEASE SOMTHING BESIDES B MODELS THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH B MODELS BUT THERE ON EVERY THING OR DO ONE SIDE CABOVER LIKE H,G,F,W,MH OTHERSIDE HOODS BUT WHAT EVER YOU PUT ON IT AS LONG AS IT IS MACKS ILL BUYEM

me too,long as there's a b-model on there! I like that,maybe the BMT logo in the center,with different models around it from old to new,cabovers on one side,hoods on the other,the B slightly bigger than the rest...

Great,and welcome So,what do you think of Freighttrain's triplex shifting video? pretty good,eh?

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