David Barglof Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I am looking at buying a 2004 Mack CV713 Dumptruck with a 460 HP E7 Engine. The truck has a 18 spd which will be nice and only 50000 miles which is crazy low and a little scary. I would greatly apritiate any and all info and opinions on this truck for I have little if any knowledge of macks other than I see a ton of these dumptrucks on the road so figure they cant be to bad. But would love to know if this is a sweet truck or buyer be ware. I listed info on the truck with a photo. Look forward to hearing all about what toexpect out of this rig.Type Dump Trucks - Quad AxleEngine E7Mileage 53,155Horsepower 460Transmission 18spdJake Brake? YesSuspension CamelbackRear End Ratio 4.35Wheels Aluminum/SteelTires 11RX24.5Wheel Base 245"Axles QuadFA Capacity 18,000MACK E7(460HP),JAKE,MACK 18SPD.TRANS,18,000LB.FRT.AXLE,40,000LB.REAR AXLE,245"WB.,272"OUTER BRIDGE,4.35 RATIO,AC,CRUISE,385X65X22.5 FRT.TIRES,11RX24.5 REAR TIRES,AC,CRUISE,INTER-AXLE LOCK,MACK LOCKING REARS,2 EA.13,200LB.STEERABLE DROPS,2 EA.59 GALLON ALUM.FUEL TANKS,CAMEL BACK REAR SUSPENSION,18'STEEL BODYW/52"SIDES,AIR GATE,PINTLE HOOK; Gross Vehicle Weight (lbs): 80000; 6x4RA Capacity 40,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slpwlker Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I think for a dump the rears are to light. But if your not doing job sites and only going to mixer companies they will work. But you start sinking and put the power to it your gonna tear an axle up fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 2004 and only 50,000 miles? Something just don't seem right.Sharp looker though.If I remember correctly, the 2004 engines became fuel pigs. Not much performance and a whole lotta fuel spent.I could be wrong.Get the vin# and run it past a MACK dealer. Any service history/problems. Any computer upgrades done? Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I deleted the duplicate posts and moved the responses into this topic.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Barglof Posted December 10, 2011 Author Share Posted December 10, 2011 I was worried about the miles to they said it worked hauling kitty litter from the crusher to the plant but who knows. but with two mile hauls it takes a while to get miles on it. I am waiting for the hours on the motor now to see if it idled alot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I was worried about the miles to they said it worked hauling kitty litter from the crusher to the plant but who knows. but with two mile hauls it takes a while to get miles on it. I am waiting for the hours on the motor now to see if it idled alotI think it may be worth the effort to either pull a valve cover, or run a scope probe down into the engine looking for sludge buildup. That is low mileage for certain and I'd be interested in the engine condition should it be run continuously while not fully warmed up. Kitty litter, and oil dry, bentonite, etc. are heavy products for certain for the cubic foot are they take up and this would stand to reason for the quad axle with light components. Seems like the truck was always on hard ground.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Barglof Posted December 10, 2011 Author Share Posted December 10, 2011 (edited) I think for a dump the rears are to light. But if your not doing job sites and only going to mixer companies they will work. But you start sinking and put the power to it your gonna tear an axle up fastHow do you know what rears are in it are you refering to 40000lb. Or do you mean the gears are to low?[ I thought it was a heavy duty truck but you dont think it will handle construction sites Edited December 10, 2011 by David Barglof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I am looking at buying a 2004 Mack CV713 Dumptruck with a 460 HP E7 Engine. The truck has a 18 spd which will be nice and only 50000 miles which is crazy low and a little scary. I would greatly apritiate any and all info and opinions on this truck for I have little if any knowledge of macks other than I see a ton of these dumptrucks on the road so figure they cant be to bad. But would love to know if this is a sweet truck or buyer be ware. I listed info on the truck with a photo. Look forward to hearing all about what toexpect out of this rig.Type Dump Trucks - Quad AxleEngine E7Mileage 53,155Horsepower 460Transmission 18spdJake Brake? YesSuspension CamelbackRear End Ratio 4.35Wheels Aluminum/SteelTires 11RX24.5Wheel Base 245"Axles QuadFA Capacity 18,000MACK E7(460HP),JAKE,MACK 18SPD.TRANS,18,000LB.FRT.AXLE,40,000LB.REAR AXLE,245"WB.,272"OUTER BRIDGE,4.35 RATIO,AC,CRUISE,385X65X22.5 FRT.TIRES,11RX24.5 REAR TIRES,AC,CRUISE,INTER-AXLE LOCK,MACK LOCKING REARS,2 EA.13,200LB.STEERABLE DROPS,2 EA.59 GALLON ALUM.FUEL TANKS,CAMEL BACK REAR SUSPENSION,18'STEEL BODYW/52"SIDES,AIR GATE,PINTLE HOOK; Gross Vehicle Weight (lbs): 80000; 6x4RA Capacity 40,000 Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slpwlker Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Hat city beat me to it but you posted it40,000LB.REAR AXLE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Barglof Posted December 10, 2011 Author Share Posted December 10, 2011 does anyone have any guesstimations what that truck will scale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 GVWR is 80k, must be legal limit where you're atby axle, 84k and changeI would also be sure to check air intake system as it was around very fine dust all its life Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Barglof Posted December 10, 2011 Author Share Posted December 10, 2011 Are these traditionaly thoght of as good trucks if everything checks out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 One of the finest pieces of automotive construction you will ever find.I assume it is double framed, but its not notedAnd you need more lites. LOTS OF LITES Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Barglof Posted December 10, 2011 Author Share Posted December 10, 2011 would the 40000 lb axels scare anyone away from this truck, how much of a diferance is it. I wish I had more expiriance but this will be my first real dumptruck. do you think its worth 80 grand. I dont want to throw my mony away!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Barglof Posted December 12, 2011 Author Share Posted December 12, 2011 Are these Mack motors as good as cummins or cat I havnt heard much about them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortstack Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 As good or better. They've had some problems due to emissions equipment but so have Cat and Cummins. Trey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Barglof Posted December 14, 2011 Author Share Posted December 14, 2011 Ok well upon reserching this truck and looking at it we found many lies. So we are on to another one so what do you all think of this machine 2008 MACK GRANITE GU813 19'OX STEEL DUMP W/42"SIDES, MP7 MACK, 370 HP, 10 SPD, 4.17 RATIO, QUAD AXLE, 18F/A, 44R/A, 270"W/B, 25'BRIDGE, CAMELBACK, DOUBLE FRAME, 2 STAGE JAKE, DIFFERENTIAL LOCK, STEERABLE LIFTAXLES, ALUMINUM WHEELS, DUAL ALUMINUM FUEL TANKS, ELEC.TARP, AIRGATE, 2 WAY GATE, DUAL STACKS, PEEP WINDOW, AIR RIDE CAB, WOODGRAIN DASH, HEATED MIRRORS, CRUISE, TILT/TELE WHEEL, AM/FM, P/PASS/W, P/L, P/S, A/C. ((171,270 MILES )) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Looks nice. Don't make any plans for the weekend. You will be polishing the aluminum!.What kind of lies on the other? Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortstack Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Looks like it would be a good truck. The only thing I don't care for on a dump truck is the 10 speed but I guess it depends on what you're going to do with it. Trey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slpwlker Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 This sounds like a better truck then the other. as stated the 10 speed isn't a great trans for dumps would like to see a 8ll or any number of mack Tranmissions. But they will do the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Barglof Posted December 15, 2011 Author Share Posted December 15, 2011 They had replaced the dash in it and are representing it with 50,000 instead of 450000 and other lipstick and makeup. they insisted that all quads run 40,000 lb axels and that was the best fit but I wasnt convinced with that much power and going off rd. this new truck is 20 000 dollars more but alot newer truck not sure of the 10 spd either but seem to get mixed opinions about that. I will be pulling a 40000 lb excavator with it so would like to see a few more gears but it should work. Do you think this one has plenty of power I know even less about this engine than the other one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slpwlker Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 They had replaced the dash in it and are representing it with 50,000 instead of 450000 and other lipstick and makeup. they insisted that all quads run 40,000 lb axels and that was the best fit but I wasnt convinced with that much power and going off rd. this new truck is 20 000 dollars more but alot newer truck not sure of the 10 spd either but seem to get mixed opinions about that. I will be pulling a 40000 lb excavator with it so would like to see a few more gears but it should work. Do you think this one has plenty of power I know even less about this engine than the other one.Here is an option. You can get it,Run it and when the transmission pukes already have a trans lined up or get a 13speed or a different Mack trans to put in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxidyne237 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 If it has the Mack 310m ten speed trans it is a good dump truck trans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortstack Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I've got a '08 GU713 with a MP8 485 that I really like. Had to replace the injector cups when it had about 20,000 miles on it but other than that I really like it. Trey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Barglof Posted December 15, 2011 Author Share Posted December 15, 2011 The dealer told me that this had the injectors redon at about that as a factory recall. I would imagine thats a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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