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As a supplemental question in reference to the primer- would it hurt anything to soak it with rust penetrant to see if that would break it free? I really don't want to take it apart if I don't have to

That's correct, gas engine and has a 2 stage pump. I'm a fairly new pump operator, and obviously this is different from the newer pumps I operate on our in service rigs, so this whole thing is a learning experience for me!

A few pics related to my previous post- first, the broken clamp from the front suction. I am currently attempting to find somewhere that I can find one of these. The leaky water line on the pump. The source of the leak is right in the middle of the picture, appears to be a small crack or rust hole: Where the line leads to: What it looks like on the outside(black knob): Bottom of the primer: Inside of the primer where the motor attaches- the primer itself will not move at all: ! Cleaning up the primer motor: Repainted the primer motor:

I'm not sure, I will have to ask and get back to you. They're running it as "Special Unit 10", and mostly run it as their QRS piece

Ok, so I did some investigating and spent some 'quality time' under the rig and found out a few things today- 1- the lines that were dripping are copper or brass lines running to a valve on the pump panel, I'm not too concerned about them at the moment. 2- the more pressing issue is the primer- I have the electric motor off, and it spins with no problem, also spins when power is put to it, but the primer itself seems to be frozen up. Any thoughts on that other than taking it apart? I will try to upload some pics, but am posting this from my phone,so no promises

Had the rig at the CAFAA muster on Saturday, which was great, and the rig did great going down and back. I did hit one snag on the way home, suddenly the engine started cutting out and not wanting to go, but after a few seconds it resolved itself. A minute or two down the road, the same thing, so I pulled off on a side road and the engine died. I go back, pop the hood, and start looking for what's wrong- come to find out, the wires on the bottom of the fuel pump had worked themselves loose, so no power was getting to the fuel pump. A simple fix, and we were back on the road and running great. Today (Monday), I took her about a 15 minute drive to the Hampton Fire Co. to work out the pump and flow some water. There were really no leaks to speak of coming from the pump, but when the supply line was pressurized, part of the clamp on the piping for the front suction broke and caused a pretty heavy leak; but that should be an easy fix. A few other items of concern: 1. None of the gauges on the pump panel are working (tach, supply pressure and master pressure) 2. The primer is not working. When I pull on the lever for the primer, the lights on the pump panel get dim, but the primer will not engage. 3. There is a slight leak (more of a constant drip) coming from some small black lines around the pump- they look like small black hoses, about the size of small fuel hose. I honestly have no idea what they are or what they go to, can somebody point me in the right direction?

Macks and some of my other favorite shots from this year's Chesapeake Antique Fire Apparatus Association muster. There was a nice variety of manufacturers and model types this year! Mine, of course: Trying to un-stick a stuck tiller

Hey, that one looks familiar!

Finally some progress! Had the clutch adjusted on Monday, which put some freeplay back in the pedal and she grabs a lot better, with no slipping! Also put new batteries in, as the old ones finally "gave up the ghost" so to speak. Looking forward to the CAFAA muster on Saturday!

Going to try my hand at a fundraiser for the engine, figured I would post it here in case anybody is interested. Shirts are $20 for sizes S-XL, $22 for sizes larger than that. Delivery available in Gettysburg or Carlisle (PA) areas, or to PA Pump Primers and York Fire Muster. Send me a PM if interested.

Selling t-shirts as a fundraiser towards the restoration of my 1963 C85 engine. Sizes S-XL: $20 Sizes 2X-4X: $22 Shipping: $5 Local pickup/delivery in the Gettysburg or Carlisle areas Delivery also available to the PA Pump Primers muster or York Fire Muster PM me for info or ordering!

Progress recently has continued to be slow, but some odds and ends are primered and ready for paint. I also figured I'd share the link for the Facebook page I started last year for the engine, for those of you who are on social media : Engine 13

Most mini's are around 200-300 gallons plus some kind of foam system, so there's plenty of firefighting capability on them. Obviously I don't know your town/department there, so it's hard to say what their justification is for the 4wd pumper; some people just want the toys "because they can". One of our mutual aid companies has a housing community that is built on a mountain with only dirt roads, which are poorly maintained in the winter time and very rough in the summer; typically on a fire response there, we can get most "regular" fire units to the scene with little to no problem, although they do run their mini pumper out the door first in that area.

Spartan used to be just a chassis manufacturer, and would supply the cab/chassis for other companies who were just body makers. Our engine there has a PA Fire Apparatus body, which is located about 5 miles from us in Heidlersburg, PA. Apparatus built by multiple manufacturers are fairly common, depending on what departments are looking for- there are a decent amount of rescue trucks with Rescue 1 bodies on Seagrave chassis, because (to my understanding) Seagrave doesn't build rescue bodies. It's funny you mention a mini-pumper, my department has been kicking that idea around for a little while now, just trying to figure out how to fund it; depending on how you spec it, they can cost almost as much as a (cheap) full sized engine. Mini pumpers have their time and place, but can't take the place of a "real" engine.

My department has a 4wd pumper on a Spartan Mountainstar chassis. It was originally designed as more of a water supply piece when we had 2 engines, but now it is our primary engine. The 4wd is nice in winter weather, but otherwise the rig is too heavy to take "off road" and gets stuck most of the time when it does.

I'm certainly interested, sending you a PM

I was pretty fortunate on the equipment that came with it (hose, adapters, nozzles, etc), but ladders are the 1 big thing it is missing at this point

You going to have her at Pump Primer's this year?

I also recently bought a GoPro and wanted to try it out

After putting chargers on the batteries for the last 2 days, the old girl fired right up today! The fuel pump worked perfectly and the 707 ran great, and I couldn't resist going for a very quick drive up the road and back. Now that things are together and running, I have a family friend who is a retired heavy truck mechanic who will be looking over the clutch to see what exactly needs done with it.

So today the weather and my work schedule finally somewhat aligned to let me poke around a little bit. The new fuel pump is bolted on, using a bracket that was already there. This was the best I could figure out this morning after working overnight, and it seemed to fit the old motto of 'keep it simple, stupid!' It still needs wired up and the hoses attached, but I figure some progress is better than no progress at all.

Modern apparatus (both ambulances and fire trucks) have "shore lines" to keep things like portable radios, flashlights and other handheld electrical equipment charged while they are in the station. I believe it also helps keep the batteries of the vehicle charged, but that may not always be the case

Yeah, it's been closed for a little while now, and nobody seems to want to buy it and re-open or build anything else there.

Well that's certainly.... unique The CF tiller and B tanker make up for it, though

Biglerville, about 7 miles north of Gburg