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I know of one in a Super 2 for sure so I'm guessing there were more.

Any idea on the count of Cummins 475-powered Superliner 2s?

Mike does that include Superliner 1 and 2s?

Yes, he does. And he told me he works it 12 hours a day! I would think it's gotta be the only one in existence still in daily use, right? So was the NTC475 the biggest factory HP you could spec in an RW in 1985? Wasn't the E9 still at 400 (or 450) back then and the KT at 450 (since you couldn't order the KT600 in the RW from the factory). Not sure which had the most torque.

Thank you farmer52. More than I needed but I appreciate the effort. Let's consider this thread closed. Whew!

Thanks!

Yes, it is apparently a factory install. But just to be sure I wanted to make sure the number jibed with the correct number from Mack. I have no idea which model designation that 475 would've been.

Does anyone know what the model number of a 475 Cummins would be? 7xx??

What a bunch of comedians. The width. Handle to hinge.... edge to edge... where your name goes on the door, lol!

Speaking of air horns..... Does anyone know when Mack went from round to square horns? Pretty sure I read it on here at one time but I sure can't find it now. I always assumed it was at the Superliner 1 to 2 changeover. But I've seen some 85s RWs with round horns... which is what got me wondering. Anyone know? Is it possible to narrow down the year of a Superliner somewhat just by looking at its horns? I have seen an early Super 2 brochure with round horns but don't know when the change happened.

Ha, ha. Anyone happen to know the number in inches?

So it sounds like the converted BC3 400 should be a good engine, no? Has anyone else seen a 475 in a Superliner? So far I've only ever heard of one other from the factory (but maybe I'm outta touch on this). And I've never seen one in the flesh. Anyone have any pics?

Dumb question.... Does anyone know the overall width of a Mack R model door? Thanks.

Would those traits still be true of one converted to an BC3 400? Still hard cold starting and poor MPGs?

Looking at a Superliner with an MVT 475 engine from the factory that has since been downgraded to a 400 big cam 3. I'm not very familiar with the 475. I know it was twin-turbo and had some sort of variable valve timing. I get the impression it was a pretty big horse in its day. Sure never seen one in a Superliner. Has anyone else? I'm thinking this was a rare engine for a Mack. Can anyone shed any light on the MVT 475 engine? Or, more importantly, how it differed from the BC3 400 that it has been converted to? What's required to convert one? From what I've read, it sounds like it was a fairly common conversion. I know they made a bazillion 400 Cummins so I presume that's a good engine to have. Any opinions?

Thanks, kscarbel2! Really interesting stuff. Can someone remind me what some of those abbreviations are? WB is obviously wheelbase. I assume one of those other abbreviations represent placement of the rear axle and overhang of the frame past the axle(s) (AF = after frame?). So looks like you couldn't quite specify right down to the inch but pretty close. Looks like about 22 different wheelbases on the RW600. Wow... can't hardly imagine a 299" Superliner. Has anyone seen one that long (from the factory)? Wonder what the application would've been for something like that. Tractor or straight truck? I'm guessing straight. I wonder what the longest single axle configuration was? You don't see to many single axle RWs... especially long ones. At least I haven't. I know Moxleys have one that's a flatbed.

Thanks, gearhead. I've seen a few with the small diameter tanks but they are not typical. Nobody knows on the common wheelbase question?

Thanks for the input and ideas, everyone. Not really doing the tourist thing.... been there, done that. Going to visit family. Mostly just interested in truck stuff to see and do while I'm out that way.

This Midwesterner is going to be in the Washington DC area next week for a few days (Oct 27-29) and I wanted to ask if anyone knows of any vintage truck things to do or see in that area. I don't get to the east coast very often so I thought I'd ask here. I know the Keystone Museum is a couple hours south of DC so that's one possibility. Are there any other museums or truck collections out that way? Any shows? Any nice Superliners to see, lol? Thanks!

Ok, here's a question regarding wheelbase options on Superliners. I guess Mack would build a truck about any which way you wanted it back in the 80s and 90s but surely there were "standard" wheelbase lengths. Does anyone know what some of the common or standard wheelbase lengths were for Superliners? I know 240" was popular for dump trucks with a pusher axle. But how about tractors? I presume there had to be a handful of common or popular wheelbase lengths, no? But, by the same token, could you literally specify any wheelbase you wanted to the inch? I'm guessing not. Can anyone clarify the situation?

Thanks, kscarbel2. Does anyone have a pic of a Superliner 1 with beige interior like a regular R model? I always kinda thought that was the sharpest color for a Mack interior, even though it was used in all their more pedestrian models.

Just going over some Mack Western nomenclature in my head, trying to get it straight. I think I've read here somewhere before that the Superliner 1 was a 700-series truck only. There was no RWS/RWL6xx in the first generation. It was RWS/RWL7xx only, correct? So if all first-gen Supers were built as 700-series were they rated for the same duty as a Superliner 2 700 series? In other words, were RW6xx Superliner 2s lighter spec trucks than both Super 1 and Super 2 700 series trucks? In other words, were Super 1 700s basically equivalent to Super 2 700s? Or put another way, was the Super 2 700 a heavier duty truck than the other two versions or not? Does that make sense?

Sorry to resurrect an old thread but I didn't realize you could ever get a Superliner with Mack beige interior (like a regular R model) as this color swatch seems to indicate. Has anyone ever seen an RW with beige interior? If so, was that a Hayward-only option?

I'm with ya. I'm kinda surprised this isn't (apparently) a normal accessory for older trucks. At antique car shows you see them under almost every hood. I would think an old truck wouldn't be any different.