kdunkdfunk

Ok, seriously now. What about cutting up a school bus like a Crown? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Crown_School_Bus_at_Meadowhall_2.jpg Most of the dimensions would be right plus the frame mounts, lights, and rear doors would be there.

Actually I have a few buddies headed your way with a small load. They can pick it up. Do you mind if they crash for a night? They're really friendly! http://fukung.net/v/14127/8161e9f148314631f98351a613b6e589.jpg

Roach coach...I like that. We called the one that came to the yard the garbage truck. Was that Eat St? If so it is filmed in Vancouver and the food off those trucks is pretty serious. Chefs who want to stay away from high leases in a conventional restaurant are going for the truck. A restaurant lease in a decent area is $12k+ per month. Sooo, how far is Fulton? A couple hours? heh heh

Yes, most are step vans. Lots of woodworkers in my area use them as well. Nice and dry and tall. Also cheap. Thanks for the offer of the bed. I'm still at the "tossing ideas around" stage so will see. I am thinking of just going with a flatdeck for now. I can make drawings for the plates and get a local fab shop to cut them out, form them. Once I have that it shouldn't be too hard to weld them together. Will see if that fits the budget!

Olivetroad, Far from boring! Thanks for taking all those pictures. The Schwans is closest to what I am looking for and it could work. Who made it? Since we are woodworkers we would do something similar. Wood deck, header, rub rails. If it was a covered body then I would try to get wood doors on it. All stuff we can do ourselves. After that I hope to get into the cab with some wood...but that's another post. What are the outside dimensions of the body? I really like the idea of making a vintage landscaping truck. The old trucks are pretty ideal for it since they are low mileage and the advertising value is high. Who wouldn't love to have an old truck in their yard even for a few hours? Another place is food trucks. They have exploded in number in the west coast cities...Vancouver, Portland, Seattle, into California. Guys like you could come up with some amazing trucks for this. They need to be roadworthy, ready for paint, and ready to take a body but...I know they would pay. The problem is that people starting food businesses don't have imagination and time for this so it needs to be made easy for them. Most people use vans because they are the easiest so a truck that is done up would attract a lot of attention. There are a lot of trucks that make the route to job sites and bigger shops. An old Mack would be a hit at those places. Here's an article about it: http://www.bestofnew...ent?oid=1459140 Many thanks! And some eye candy:

So it looked neat but not picture worthy. I see. I haven't been able to even find one to look at. Not on CL and all the wreckers I have talked to don't have them. Glad to hear they aren't worth scrapping. I've called quite a few wreckers around Vancouver and in WA and am now talking to body fabricators about starting from scratch.

Hello All, Here is the body I want to build for my current project. These are pretty rough for now. The idea is to make something like an urban delivery body from the 40's and 50's. I need to side load and may want it covered with canvas sides or roll-up doors. The idea is to get something really rounded. It is going on a '58 White 3000. I saw the Mack F at Iowa Trucking Museum: http://hankstruckfor...p?topic=32995.0. Also I saw the Bud model. I get thirsty just looking at it... I am wondering if anyone knows of a body laying around that would be a starting point? I would love to hear thoughts about doing this. Anyone who has a body or knows where one is, PLEASE PM me or email kdunkdfunk@gmail.com. Thanks

Nice find! Another westcoaster...

Wow! A lot of equipment and all in great shape. Looks like a great way to spend a day. Are the tires on the mine truck tarped to prevent sun damage? I like the Volvo. Thanks for the pics.

Here's one.

I see a potential revenue stream on Mack swag for BMT. The big question is what is Mack's position on using their copyrighted logo? Is there something available to collector's through ATHS or the like? On another note what interest is out there for logos inlaid into wood decks etc? I heard it is not possible to find someone to do it. I am possibly interested in doing it. Also reproductions of wooden steering wheels etc.

that's a beautiful fish!

Looks like there are a few. Have a look: http://sketchup.goog...&reps=1&start=0

I'm wondering how many are aware of Google Sketchup? It is a free program for modelling and viewing virtual models of almost everything: trucks, buildings, animals, furniture, etc. I am interested in it for trying out paint schemes to see how they will look on my truck. The 3D Warehouse is pretty cool if you don't want to go to the work of learning the program since you can download other people's models that they have uploaded. This isn't my model but I was able to download it and manipulate it...maybe switch out the dump for a deck or something. Anyway check it out and let me know what you think.

1955 White COE with Ca. title. Not running or original engine $200OBO The engine and trans are here but not original,looks like a chrysler engine and a spicer 5 speed,located in Redding,Ca. I've been selling all the COE's to some people in San Jose and they build street rods out of them,cab is rough but not rusted,it was set up as a service truck when I got it. Email indianmike1937@msn.com 530-244-7123 Mike G.

I didn't have much time to look at it but what I saw were 2 mechanical linkages coming from the cab and what looks like a clutch plate behind the main transmission. Here is another tag. I think this old girl is pre-air and pre-electric (at least for transmission). White used Cummins diesels from the factory so it seems like a good choice for a repower if that day comes. One step at a time.

Back again. Yesterday I finally got a chance to see what I bought. Turns out it is a 1958 White 3022, the frame is the length I need, and we decided to restore it to stock everything. The engine doesn't have a split manifold. The transmission is 5 speed with a 3 speed rear. I was really impressed with the condition of everything. A couple of dings in the cab and some minor rust. The floor needs to be replaced. A very clean truck so far! I am interested in building the history for this truck and documenting the build in a public place. Any suggestions on that are welcome. Here are some pics:

Ok so I don't read so good. You were ALL suggesting a donor vehicle. Here's something for the picture nuts to look at! All I have at this point. The first four shots are from when they parked it. I will be really choked if that compost heap of needles has made a rusty mess while stored.

Moving fast! What you've done so far looks great! Keep posting.

I am going to have to see what my particular unique circumstances will allow. While putting the 3000 cab on a bus frame seems to be the cheapest way to go and will probably give the best function, I am worried about a couple things. How much of the old character of the truck will be left when the engine, transmission, frame, wheels, drivetrain are gone? What I would have is an old cab on a new truck and pictures I have seen, it doesn't look great. Robbing parts off a bus to bring the truck to modern operating standards sounds good though. I don't want to say too much until I have it in my hands but the seller wanted to get the thing roadworthy for $5000 using the old engine (rebuilt with genuine parts) and keeping the truck completely original to preserve the value. Sounds like a good builder to me. I would like to stick with that but I think it would be more valuable to everyone if I am driving it every day and it works. Since the only alternative is to leave it parked in the weeds. When I get a chance I will get some pics of a Mack in Vancouver area that is a daily hauler. Gotta respect him. It's been on the road for years. I saw him at the Cat dealer yard regularly picking up new machines and delivering them. Talk about an enhanced customer experience to have your new machine arrive behind that truck! You could say that my background is hot-rodding new Cat's. We were doing heavy modifications to D8's for oil sands and a lot of conversions for logging. I tried my hand at restoring a car with mixed results. Being practical, I think the best result will be using the original chassis with a newish engine and shortening the existing frame so that I end up with a 12-14' deck. In '53 White released the drop chassis and I would have loved to find one of these that is the right length but I need to get on with this. (Anyone know what happened to this truck? http://www.classicwhitetrucks.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=696 I have tried to get registered on the forum to get the guys number but no luck.) This is the best cab I have seen for condition and completeness (looks like some work on the floor before paint but surface rust only, can you believe the seats just need a clean? no rips). The truck has 367k miles so I will need to look into that. This from Rob: I'd incorporate the new driveline into the old frame. I wouldn't however plan on returning to original in the future. If your plans are to have the truck original, restore it that way without upgrades. Tackling both projects is a good way to go broke fast. Despite that I am going to keep the engine and parts that get removed with the plan of getting it going and putting it back someday. Since the engine will be out and there is no time constraint, I can work on it as funds allow. I will check if it is the split manifold. So I just need to see this guy as soon as work will allow and see what can and can't be done on my budget. Will let y'all know what happens. Many thanks!

Suggestions are what I am looking for. A wrecked bus is exactly what the guy who is going to be doing all the mechanical suggested but I'm not a huge fan of what an old cab on a new frame looks like...especially with new wheels. Maybe I can put the original rims onto the new chassis?

Thanks muchly for the guidance. A full chassis swap probably is the best way to go. The other thing I need is a shorter bed so was going the get the existing chassis shortened. This would be much more permanent than the engine changeover and devalue the truck. If I change chassis, I will be able to put back to original and will have an awesome lawn ornament for many years! Very helpful. I will get some pics up when I can.

I see. One person recommended an Isuzu engine. Not sure what size they were talking about. What does this mean for remaining electric systems that are 6 volt? Right now I have nothing but questions. The biggest is if I would end up with something good enough for daily short distance driving. I know it will look cool!

Yes, I've seen pictures of that truck. It is an 8.3. Mine will only have a flatdeck so maybe I don't need something that big? What are the options for setting up controls in the cab? I want to keep it looking as original as possible until the day when I can put it all back. I'm REALLY green. I haven't seen one of these trucks in person yet, let alone driven one. But I want it bad.

Hey All, I'm looking for some advice on a good engine/trans combo for a '50 White 3000 cabover. It has the original Mustang 6-cyl which I have no intention of getting rid. It hasn't run for ~20yrs which probably isn't a big problem but about the best I can hope for is 8mpg and 65 on the freeway. I want to put this truck into daily use for short distances so am looking for a modern engine. I think I would prefer a diesel. Thoughts?